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Steven58

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I saw a post saying you can deodex using Black hat. I d/l'd it for 1.99 and noticed that one can only d/l leaked roms. I didn't see how it deodexes for you. What am I doing wrong.

Ps; i did d/l r2d2 but that's all I did.

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used black hat to get the r2d2. tried it out. I liked it but it took too long to boot consistantly. Above that swype wouldn't work with it so I went back to stock 2.2 ota rooted....for now.

Interestingly enough, I got stuck in boot mode trying to install the rc file that supposedly takes blur out. So, I had to use sbf to get back in. It worked. I learned a lot. Now, I can make my way around. :)
 
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That's what I am hoping for. I am running the 2.3.15 leak but am getting reboots (no big deal, only like 1x a day) when I unlock my phone.

You must come from a Blackberry and are used to the instabilities.

Man, 1x unplanned/unexpected reboot a day would drive me up a wall especially when I get it as I'm using the phone. I had my first and only random reboot from my DX several days ago, at night, when I wasn't even using the phone - I just saw it vibrate on the table when it booted up. That irked me.

It's a phone. IMO, a phone - as a tool I pick up and use daily - should be highly stable. I'd say it should be more stable than my computer - I don't mind deliberately rebooting it more frequently than my computer, but it'd better not crash.
 
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You must come from a Blackberry and are used to the instabilities.

No, but I did have a WinMo phone for work that was the worst piece of technology I had the misfortune of using - ever.

Like I said, the reboots happen when the screen is locked and I go to unlock it. And it's only been once a day. If it happened in the middle of a call or something else, then I'd be losing my mind.

It hasn't caused a problem, yet...
 
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The day my phone starts rebooting when I unlock it, even a couple times a week, is the day I SBF back to 2.1. Actually, the whole reason I didn't do the OTA upgrade to 2.2 (and went with the leak instead) was that my install of 2.1 was great - stable and fast. I like some of the features in 2.2 and am mostly happy with it but I'll be back on 2.1 in a heartbeat if it means no reboots.

I did a 2.1 -> 2.2 leak (2.3.9, I think?) -> 2.3.15 upgrade and about the only trouble I have is the battery manager occasionally force closing.

Anyway, glad you're happy, just thought I'd mention that there are lots of really stable phones out there and you shouldn't have to tolerate a daily reboot.
 
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You must come from a Blackberry and are used to the instabilities.

Man, 1x unplanned/unexpected reboot a day would drive me up a wall especially when I get it as I'm using the phone. I had my first and only random reboot from my DX several days ago, at night, when I wasn't even using the phone - I just saw it vibrate on the table when it booted up. That irked me.

It's a phone. IMO, a phone - as a tool I pick up and use daily - should be highly stable. I'd say it should be more stable than my computer - I don't mind deliberately rebooting it more frequently than my computer, but it'd better not crash.

Then you may want to get just a phone and not a computer that can make phone calls. ;)

These are computers and you have the freedom to add and remove all sorts of things and probably have. So unless you are running strictly stock I don't think you have a right to complain its isn't stable because it rebooted once in the middle of the night. If its completely stock ...never mind ;-)
 
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Having worked in IT for a long time now, I know that this is essentially a small computer. I am accordingly understanding of when and where it should be acceptable to become unstable.

To claim that the expectations should be set for instability is really selling the system short. There is no reason to have an expectation of instability. Yes, there is a lot you can do to decrease the stability of the system because the OS is fairly open and flexible, but there are changes that you can make where you should expect a decrease in stability (using SetCPU, modifying system files), and there are a lot of other changes (the vast majority) where the system should handle problems gracefully. Rebooting is not handling it gracefully. Force closes are graceful.

In the last, oh, maybe 5 years I can probably count on my fingers the number of times my home computer has crashed during use that required a reboot to become functional. Systems don't have to be unstable. I don't agree that having an open and flexible OS - and leveraging that fact - by necessity is going to cause crashes. A well designed OS will be robust enough to tolerate a certain amount of misbehavior from applications.
 
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Having worked in IT for a long time now, I know that this is essentially a small computer. I am accordingly understanding of when and where it should be acceptable to become unstable.

To claim that the expectations should be set for instability is really selling the system short. There is no reason to have an expectation of instability. Yes, there is a lot you can do to decrease the stability of the system because the OS is fairly open and flexible, but there are changes that you can make where you should expect a decrease in stability (using SetCPU, modifying system files), and there are a lot of other changes (the vast majority) where the system should handle problems gracefully. Rebooting is not handling it gracefully. Force closes are graceful.

In the last, oh, maybe 5 years I can probably count on my fingers the number of times my home computer has crashed during use that required a reboot to become functional. Systems don't have to be unstable. I don't agree that having an open and flexible OS - and leveraging that fact - by necessity is going to cause crashes. A well designed OS will be robust enough to tolerate a certain amount of misbehavior from applications.

Well I to have worked in IT for a very long time and I agree with you. However the one big thing I see here is that it may be too open as any willy nilly can write and app. Is it the OS that caused the reboot or a poorly written app that didn't follow the rules? Hard to tell.

BTW my Dinc rebooted in stock form and I had a small problem with that (although a reboot once a week or so doesn't bother me) but once I started rooting loading ROMs and such I quite holding the manufacturer responsible for the reboots. And since I see you in this section I have to wonder if you are doing these things also and if its far to blame them.

BTW I've worked in TI long enough that I remember when things rebooted all the time. Maybe that's why I'm not to upset with a random reboot from time to time.
 
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Is it the OS that caused the reboot or a poorly written app that didn't follow the rules? Hard to tell.

Of course. But if the OS is written well, it should resist rebooting when an app is misbehaving. You can't stop everything, but the vast majority of apps should be able to crash gracefully without taking out the entire phone.

And since I see you in this section I have to wonder if you are doing these things also and if its far to blame them.

Certainly a fair question. I've got a good handle on what things will reasonably reduce reliability, and what things won't, so I wouldn't be objecting if I thought I was affecting system stability in some way.

In any event, I don't have any objection to the stability of my phone. I said the reboot irked me a bit, but I'm not calling Verizon about it or bagging on the phone because of it.

BTW I've worked in TI long enough that I remember when things rebooted all the time. Maybe that's why I'm not to upset with a random reboot from time to time.

Sure. Things have come a long way, though. I don't see why currently-developed phones shouldn't be held up against the current state of computing. It's only 15ish years since Windows 3.11, but I'm not going to say, "well, it's better than things were."
 
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