Root What's the point of these ROMs for D2?

[inssane]

Maybe I am very spoiled having come from the D1 and the plethora of bad ass ROMs that we had...but I see no real benefit of putting a new ROM on these phones right now.

I know that devs are focusing elsewhere (ahem, DX, ahem) - but other than the removal of motoblur (or most of it) I see no real benefit.

I have tried a few of the ROMs that are here now, and I am benchmarking the same on short bench, Quadrant, and Linpack.

So please tell me what is the purpose then? Maybe I am just being a debbie downer about it, but it seems like the ROMs are just thrown out there and buggy, with no blur being the main selling point.
I used to refresh my browser all the time, every day waiting for the next D1 ROM, and after trying a few, here and there, for the D2 I am just not impressed at all.

Am I missing something?
Nick

 

[Matt4542]

Maybe I am very spoiled having come from the D1 and the plethora of bad ass ROMs that we had...but I see no real benefit of putting a new ROM on these phones right now.

I know that devs are focusing elsewhere (ahem, DX, ahem) - but other than the removal of motoblur (or most of it) I see no real benefit.

I have tried a few of the ROMs that are here now, and I am benchmarking the same on short bench, Quadrant, and Linpack.

So please tell me what is the purpose then? Maybe I am just being a debbie downer about it, but it seems like the ROMs are just thrown out there and buggy, with no blur being the main selling point.
I used to refresh my browser all the time, every day waiting for the next D1 ROM, and after trying a few, here and there, for the D2 I am just not impressed at all.

Am I missing something?
Nick

There are bugs, that is a given. ANY ROM on ANY phone will have some bugs here and there. Linpack and Quadrant mean NOTHING. The only time they would be useful is if you are benchmarking two new phones or something like that. It doesn't show the actual speed of the phone or anything like that. The removal of Blur will help make the phone run faster for the user and remove all that unneeded Motorola crap. Use them or don't if you prefer.

 

[Dabrador]

I'm with Nick on this one. I too just moved to the D2 from the D1 and am disappointed with the amount/quality of the D2 ROMs. I had BBv.04 on the D1 and it was flawless. I would love to have something like that for the D2.

I'm not that into themes and the like, just want something that makes the phone run faster/snappier.

Anyone got a BB type ROM for the D2?

 

[Dabrador]

There are bugs, that is a given. ANY ROM on ANY phone will have some bugs here and there. Linpack and Quadrant mean NOTHING. The only time they would be useful is if you are benchmarking two new phones or something like that. It doesn't show the actual speed of the phone or anything like that. The removal of Blur will help make the phone run faster for the user and remove all that unneeded Motorola crap. Use them or don't if you prefer.

I just noticed who posted this. Do you have a ROM that would simply speed up the phone?

 

[Redflea]

Do you really think your D2 is slow? Mine performs better than my D1 did at 1 GHz overclock...

The D1 required speeding up. The D2 is better bone stock.

 

[Dabrador]

Do you really think your D2 is slow? Mine performs better than my D1 did at 1 GHz overclock...

The D1 required speeding up. The D2 is better bone stock.

I see that you're rooted. What are you running on your D2?

 

[JDunc]

Im running 2.2 with BG Theme and completely content. Until there's a super stable ROM or one that will benefit me in more ways ill probably say with this setup

 

[inssane]

There are bugs, that is a given. ANY ROM on ANY phone will have some bugs here and there. Linpack and Quadrant mean NOTHING. The only time they would be useful is if you are benchmarking two new phones or something like that. It doesn't show the actual speed of the phone or anything like that. The removal of Blur will help make the phone run faster for the user and remove all that unneeded Motorola crap. Use them or don't if you prefer.

We will have to agree to disagree as benchmarking is great for comparing different kernels (and there were alot for D1, and they all ran a little different even at the same speeds).
Benchmarking determines the efficiency of the processor in regards to reading and writing files and the processing of graphics, as a start. If blur bogs down the processor (independent of internal memory size), it "should" benchmark at least a little better. I did not find this to be true with the D2 with the few ROMs I tried in benchmark or "user feel".

Kernel to kernel I have seen VAST benchmark differences when changing ROMs.

Not to get down on you, but your statement is pretty broad and seems to be based on limited experience. When we get kernels (hopefully sooner than later) you should try comparing and you will see the same thing I have.

Nick

 

[tehshift]

One thing I see that could be beneficial in performance is that with removing the blur you are freeing up internal memory. Check your running processes. The d2 has a god awful amount of crap running in the background(under the running tab in manage applications, not the running services screen)

I too came from a d1, downloading a new ROM almost every week. And I personally am running a stock root with a few applications removed. But I'm still glad someone is working on creating ROMs. If they are not creating something beneficial, they are atleast creating a base to work off of. So why not instead of making them defend themselves, offer them suggestions on what you would like to see in their future updates. But that's just like... my opinion... man..

 

[OMJ]

We will have to agree to disagree as benchmarking is great for comparing different kernels (and there were alot for D1, and they all ran a little different even at the same speeds).
Benchmarking determines the efficiency of the processor in regards to reading and writing files and the processing of graphics, as a start. If blur bogs down the processor (independent of internal memory size), it "should" benchmark at least a little better. I did not find this to be true with the D2 with the few ROMs I tried in benchmark or "user feel".

Kernel to kernel I have seen VAST benchmark differences when changing ROMs.

Not to get down on you, but your statement is pretty broad and seems to be based on limited experience. When we get kernels (hopefully sooner than later) you should try comparing and you will see the same thing I have.

Nick

Nick I dont think that you are going to see custom kernels on the D2 anytime soon. All the recent attempts to bypass the bootloader failed and I think everyone that was working on it has mostly moved on. There is one way to load a custom kernel but it means you lose your radio so it basically makes your phone into a pda.

Right now the brightest thing in the future for DX/D2 users is AOSP roms. Hopefully we get them before too long.

 

[inssane]

Yeah, the R2D2 (I think) is "close" to AOSP, but not authentic.
I am not too concerned about the kernels as I am happy right now, the quoted text was moreso to shine some light on benchmarking and performance comparisons. Mostly referring to the D1, although the post may have been misleading.