What do you expect from Sprint's next 4G phone?

[FreakyLocz14]

What would you like to see?

 

[AndroidSPCS]

Would love to see something like the Dell Streak...doubt it will happen though LOL.

 

[Rigmaster]

Don't care so much about specs - they'll take care of themselves. I just want to see Sprint stick with the unlimited plans and offer a LTE + Wimax + 3G phone with a 4.3" touchscreen. Pretty much just an upgrade to the Evo with LTE compatibility.

 

[BenChase7]

I honestly cant think of much to change on the EVO. As long as the screen stays 4.3 inches on the next ANDROID phone, I'll be happy. Mostly just updated and refinements are all that need to be done. (as Rigmaster said) The specs will take care of themselves.

 

[Woosh]

I honestly cant think of much to change on the EVO. As long as the screen stays 4.3 inches on the next ANDROID phone, I'll be happy. Mostly just updated and refinements are all that need to be done. (as Rigmaster said) The specs will take care of themselves.

Like you said...Not much to change on the Evo.

Next one should be smaller form factor. I love the look of the Nexus one. Something like that would be great; but replace the trackball.

I would want physical button to wake the device. Don't like having to hit top of the phone to turn it on.

Edit: Add Gingerbread, 4" screen, Super Amoled, No keyboard, Second Gen Snapdragon or dual core, and out before Christmas.

 

[FreakyLocz14]

Like you said...Not much to change on the Evo.

Next one should be smaller form factor. I love the look of the Nexus one. Something like that would be great; but replace the trackball.

I would want physical button to wake the device. Don't like having to hit top of the phone to turn it on.

Edit: Add Gingerbread, 4" screen, Super Amoled, No keyboard, Second Gen Snapdragon or dual core, and out before Christmas.

Perhaps a Nexus Two with a physical QWERTY and a screen that rivals Super AMOLED. Also would like pixel density to match the iPhone 4's.

 

[CriticalCritic]

I would want physical button to wake the device. Don't like having to hit top of the phone to turn it on.

Edit: Add Gingerbread, 4" screen, Super Amoled, No keyboard, Second Gen Snapdragon or dual core, and out before Christmas.

How about 4.3", and New HTC Sense? Plus a DTV chip/antenna. Oh, and a dedicated camera button?

BTW, get widget locker, and use your volume keys to wake the phone instead of that damn top button.

 

[Woosh]

How about 4.3", and New HTC Sense? Plus a DTV chip/antenna. Oh, and a dedicated camera button?

BTW, get widget locker, and use your volume keys to wake the phone instead of that damn top button.

Im looking at my Evo and I can't see how they would be able to make a 4.3" without it being tad too big for me. I like the feel of the Vibrant and think 4" could be the perfect sweetspot. However I could be happy with less also. I just think Sprint needs a little more variety. Hopefully that will happen soon.

Thx for the widget locker idea. I will test it out. Of coarse now that I hold the phone I wish the volume was on the other side to wake it up.

 

[ScorpDX]

Hardware wise - The EVO suites my needs fine. A bigger battery that didn't require a ugly back would be nice. I'd even accept a slightly thicker phone overall to accomplish this.

Software wise - I'd like to see Google take a look at all the questions and "how do I do this" post and take all those "we can't really do that, sorry" answers and make a fix for it. There are a few things lacking that other phones can do. Many of them are small and seem like they just got overlooked.

 

[twospirits]

The current EVO is basically fine. But it needs a better battery and add a sim card for overseas capability. Make the next one a world phone and it will be perfect.

TS

 

[RiverOfIce]

Just want to make it clear. LTE is about 5-9 years away. The current "lte" is only hspa+. To build in a hspa+ module would be pointless, as it would not be allowed on hspa+ network. No more then any sprint phone is allowed to use it currently. Hspa+ is a good technology. But it is very limited when it comes to a lot of people. If you want a lte/wimax phone, you are going to have to wait about 5-9 years to use it. Once again, lte is still years away from deployment. I want only one thing, wimax version 2 radio.

 

[FreakyLocz14]

Just want to make it clear. LTE is about 5-9 years away. The current "lte" is only hspa+. To build in a hspa+ module would be pointless, as it would not be allowed on hspa+ network. No more then any sprint phone is allowed to use it currently. Hspa+ is a good technology. But it is very limited when it comes to a lot of people. If you want a lte/wimax phone, you are going to have to wait about 5-9 years to use it. Once again, lte is still years away from deployment. I want only one thing, wimax version 2 radio.

How is Verizon be building an LTE network if they use CDMA and not GSM? Only T-Mobile is using HSPA+ for their 4G network. HSPA and HSPA+ are GSM technologies.

 

[RiverOfIce]

How is Verizon be building an LTE network if they use CDMA and not GSM? Only T-Mobile is using HSPA+ for their 4G network. HSPA and HSPA+ are GSM technologies.

Because cdma and gsm are NOT hspa+. Hspa+ needs a different radio then cdma. Att, tmobile, and verizon are going to use lte, which is why pre-lte is going to use hspa+. Please understand that hspa+, lte, wimax, pre-lte, gsm, and cdma are completely different. Att is using hspa+ interface and pre-lte is using hspa+ interface. Just like sprint and verizon both currently use cdma and att and tmobile use gsm.

 

[FreakyLocz14]

Because cdma and gsm are NOT hspa+. Hspa+ needs a different radio then cdma. Att, tmobile, and verizon are going to use lte, which is why pre-lte is going to use hspa+. Please understand that hspa+, lte, wimax, pre-lte, gsm, and cdma are completely different. Att is using hspa+ interface and pre-lte is using hspa+ interface. Just like sprint and verizon both currently use cdma and att and tmobile use gsm.

In order for Verizon to use HSPA+, they would need to have SIM cards in their phones. Verizon phones don't have SIM cards. Maybe they are really using EVDO Rev. B or C as their Pre-LTE?

 

[Woosh]

In order for Verizon to use HSPA+, they would need to have SIM cards in their phones. Verizon phones don't have SIM cards. Maybe they are really using EVDO Rev. B or C as their Pre-LTE?

Their current phones don't have Sim cards. I remember reading somewhere that once they go LTE their phones will have Sim cards to take advantage of LTE.

 

[FreakyLocz14]

Their current phones don't have Sim cards. I remember reading somewhere that once they go LTE their phones will have Sim cards to take advantage of LTE.

Just one problem with that. If Verizon does use GSM HSPA+ for their 4G technology, then how will the phone be able to use 3G when not in a 4G market?

 

[Woosh]

Just one problem with that. If Verizon does use GSM HSPA+ for their 4G technology, then how will the phone be able to use 3G when not in a 4G market?

Well I am no phone maker but I am sure there is a way for it to work both ways.

Otherwise I couldn't imagine them going to LTE unless they did it in one fell swoop. Because its unlikely they are going to put out a phone to take advantage of LTE if it will only work on LTE. Just wouldn't happen from a company that touts how great their coverage is.

Edit: http://www.infosyncworld.com/reviews/cell-phones/apple-iphone-4-for-verizon-wireless/11217.html

That mentions that there are chips in the works to handle both technologies. Gonna Google and read a bit more on it because I'm curious myself.

 

[RiverOfIce]

In order for Verizon to use HSPA+, they would need to have SIM cards in their phones. Verizon phones don't have SIM cards. Maybe they are really using EVDO Rev. B or C as their Pre-LTE?

Not going to run around in circles. You do not have to have a sim card for gsm and you can have a sim card for cdma. (Siemens, Philips, and Samsung all produce cdma sim cards.) Same goes for evdo and hspa+. It is how the phone interacts with the tower, not the technology use in the phone. Evdo Rev. B or C is not hspa+ data, please stop guessing. LTE is going to use the same hspa+ interactions with the tower as tmobile does. It is also going to have the same limitations. This will require a new radio for all Verizon phones. Att and tmobile already start to use the radios, but verizon has not. LTE-A is a different system that requires a different radio. In the near future, you will not have sim cards. With lte-a you will never have sim cards. Wimax it is less clear. But the use of sim cards are not depend on the technology, but what the company chooses to use to track you.

 

[RiverOfIce]

Just one problem with that. If Verizon does use GSM HSPA+ for their 4G technology, then how will the phone be able to use 3G when not in a 4G market?

Because it is a pass through technology, Simply but the phone will just use 3g, when no 4g is found, passing through the same tower. But it will never be 4g technology, no 3g with a boost when there is no traffic.

 

[RiverOfIce]

Once again, do not confuse lte and lte-a. lte is just hspa+ for verizon. It is just 3g with a boost. But when they start to bring LTE-a, true 4g. They will have to use all the bandwidth. With means, voice, texting, evdo, gsm, hspa+, and cdma will be slowly converted over to lte-a. They have to do this because of how little bandwidth they really have. LTE-a will become the data, text, and voice.

 

[FreakyLocz14]

Because it is a pass through technology, Simply but the phone will just use 3g, when no 4g is found, passing through the same tower. But it will never be 4g technology, no 3g with a boost when there is no traffic.

So if Verizon's LTE is just "3G with a boost", then it won't support voice and data sessions at the same time?

 

[RiverOfIce]

So if Verizon's LTE is just "3G with a boost", then it won't support voice and data sessions at the same time?

Yes it SHOULD support voice and data at the same time. It will not be the cdma radio. It will be a different radio. But of course cdma supports voice and data and no one uses that, so who knows.

 

[badankles]

a webOS phone on 4G

 

[Eazail70x7]

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[FreakyLocz14]

XDA Exclusive: HTC Knight (Updated) | xda-developers

Wow it looks like an EVO with a keyboard. I hope it has an OLED or Super LCD display.