The government doesn't get to "deem" it reasonable. Every search every government agent (police, FBI, TSA, etc...) has EVER done has been reasonable, until the courts say otherwise.
Right, I'm sure it will see a judge soon, and they'll deem it reasonable.
Who says it's not reasonable. According to you, if the government deems it reasonable, then it darn well is.
I don't deem it unreasonable because
you're choosing to fly. If you were walking down the street, and someone walked up for a search, that would be a different story. But, when all is said and done, you're coming to their turf, using their tools. If they require a search, you still have the choice of walking away.
You're not being forced to submit yourself to the search.
For those who have to fly for their job, or else their family has no money... they ARE being forced.
No, you obviously have a self entitlement issue. There are many jobs in which flying is not required.
You look at the graves of Americans who have died for you to have these rights, and say.. "eh... no thanks", and you think that's ok?
Seriously, you're bringing up people fighting for our rights, again? Look, we don't think it's a violation of any of our rights. We accept that in order to fly, a
privilege, we must submit to a search. It's that simple.
These types of searches are unconstitutional WITHOUT probable cause.
Flying isn't probable cause.
Well, by flying, you're potentially giving permission to be searched. If not, you don't fly, get over it.
Looking back, I would never serve this country in the military if I knew then what I know now. Why in the hell should I put my life on the line to protect your rights, if you don't even want them.
Really? Thank you for serving, but no thank you. I'd rather you not serve if you're going to throw it in our face every other day.
What other event in history was similar to this hmm...
.. Strip searches
.. Humiliation
.. Blatant disregard for humanity
.. And the victims not even willing to fight back?
.....Oh right, the holocaust.... And this time the offenders are getting paid $15/hr to violate YOUR rights, your CHILDRENS rights, and more.
So if you had an 8 yr old daughter, you'd be ok with someone taking nude photographs of her or manhandling her privates?
... Would you?!?
All because you can save a few hours vs driving/train ?
Would that be ok with you?
...Some people.
And it's a sad state when people like the quoted don't have enough balls to fight this kind of monstrosity, yet they will get on an internet forum and pretend like there is nothing wrong with it. Why?
Did you seriously just compare flying on an airplane to the Holocaust? Credibility out the window.
As mentioned earlier, some people don't have the choice. If I don't fly, I may never get to see my grandparents ever again. They're in their late 80s. Some people fly for business every day.
Take the train.
This is to say nothing of the poor TSA employees who are getting a high dose of radiation on a daily basis with no protection. X-ray techs wear the lead vests and go in a different room because exposing themselves to radiation every day for a long period of time has health effects. It's no biggie to the patient who gets an x-ray every 6 mos, but it is a big deal to the person working the machine every day. The TSA employees have nothing to protect themselves.
Really? I used to work in an ER, right down the hall from Radiology. They
never wore any protection, other than a small button-like device to tell how much radiation they've been subjected to.
unreasonable search or seizure; search without a warrant
i think this is pretty wrong, and it isn't really doing much as far as security goes.
READ THIS:
Watch: ‘If you touch my junk, I’m gonna have you arrested,’ man tells TSA agent after refusing body scanner | Raw Story
then watch/listen to the youtube videos...
If you're coming to my house, but I tell you you can't come in unless you allow me to search you, it's either (a) let me search and you come in or (b) you turn around and go home.
You still have the choice
not to fly.
Right, in this economy, you can quit a job you've had for 20 years because you don't want to be screened. There are tons of jobs just waiting for someone to fill them. Have you lost your mind. You are honestly comparing an employer requiring a drug test, to the government doing a strip search on you for no good reason?
There is no right to fly. It's an inconvenience to not fly, but not even close to a violation of your rights.
You know what else... kids cry when they feel violated too. We spend years teaching our children that no one should touch them there... and then we sit back helpless while it happens against our and their will.
No one is forcing you to fly! This country operated for
years without planes, get over yourself.
Translation = Crap, I ran out of Ammo.
Translation: "There is no point in arguing this matter because I agree with it, but they feel a sense of entitlement, and how dare they(!) search me! I'm an American!"