Root Flash ClockworkMod again?

[cartisdm]

My friend tried using a ROM Manager on his DX and it doesn't seem to be working right. When trying to flash a ROM it reboots, attempts to boot into Recovery, fails, then boots up normally.

When I boot into into his ClockworkMod recovery manually, it doesn't appear to have all the options like it should. For instance, I cannot create a Nandroid backup or flash stuff from the SD card. Is this normal?

From within the ROM Manger I tried to flash a new ClockWorkMod Recovery but that also fails just like flashing a ROM.

I have an Incredible so I don't wanna screw up his DX so how do I flash a new Recovery for him? I can't create a backup of his stuff so I want to be extra careful.

 

[Steven58]

My friend tried using a ROM Manager on his DX and it doesn't seem to be working right. When trying to flash a ROM it reboots, attempts to boot into Recovery, fails, then boots up normally. When I boot into into his ClockworkMod recovery manually, it doesn't appear to have all the options like it should. For instance, I cannot create a Nandroid backup or flash stuff from the SD card. Is this normal? From within the ROM Manger I tried to flash a new ClockWorkMod Recovery but that also fails just like flashing a ROM. I have an Incredible so I don't wanna screw up his DX so how do I flash a new Recovery for him? I can't create a backup of his stuff so I want to be extra careful.

Hi, you also need to download droid x bootstrapper from the market and download bootstrap recovery. Won't work without it.

 

[cartisdm]

Hi, you also need to download droid x bootstrapper from the market and download bootstrap recovery. Won't work without it.

Oh really? I had no idea! I'll pass along the info, thanks for the quick reply!

 

[Steven58]

It's my pleasure. Glad to be of help.

 

[cartisdm]

Hey,

Last night he downloaded Droid X Recovery Bootstrap from the market. He was able to use the app to reboot into recovery and from there he made a Backup. This backup file does show up in the ROM Manager app when you click "Manage and Restore Backups." However, from within ROM Manager I am still unable to "Reboot Into Recovery." It reboots and tries to enter Recovery for a second, then fails, then boots as normal.

ROM Manager says that he has version 2.5.0.7 but when I actually look inside his Recovery it says 2.5.0.6. What's going on here? I realize now that he has the ClockworkMod recovery he can just flash stuff manually, but what's the point of ROM Manager if it can't boot into Recovery and do all that stuff for you?

 

[Deleted User]

I'm having the same issue

 

[Scooter70]

Here's how I've found to reliably do it:
1) Launch DroidX Bootstrapper
2) Press Bootstrap Recovery
3) Hit Home button
4) Launch ROM Manager
5) Press Reboot Recovery

For some reason, I always have to do the DX Bootstrapper right before I go to ROM Manager to get it to work. I assume it's just the way that ROM Manager was set up when Koush added support for the DX.

I usually just use the Bootstrapper app to reboot into recovery when I want to backup or install a ROM since you usually have to wipe/format/mount/etc manually anyway.

 

[cartisdm]

Here's how I've found to reliably do it:
1) Launch DroidX Bootstrapper
2) Press Bootstrap Recovery
3) Hit Home button
4) Launch ROM Manager
5) Press Reboot Recovery

For some reason, I always have to do the DX Bootstrapper right before I go to ROM Manager to get it to work. I assume it's just the way that ROM Manager was set up when Koush added support for the DX.

I usually just use the Bootstrapper app to reboot into recovery when I want to backup or install a ROM since you usually have to wipe/format/mount/etc manually anyway.

Ugh, still no luck. In reality, he doesn't need to be messing around with ROMs right now because he wants to grab the newest [leaked] DX update:

DROID X 2.2.1 Leaks, Updates System to 2.3.20 - Droid Life: A Droid Community Blog

Is there an RUU version of this somewhere? I've noticed his phone is a little sluggish and I'm always a fan of completely wiping a phone or computer instead of just applying an update overtop (much cleaner that way). I'll get him to create a nice App backup using Titanium then install a whole new stock ROM with the included update.

 

[GrandMasterB]

Hey,

Last night he downloaded Droid X Recovery Bootstrap from the market. He was able to use the app to reboot into recovery and from there he made a Backup. This backup file does show up in the ROM Manager app when you click "Manage and Restore Backups." However, from within ROM Manager I am still unable to "Reboot Into Recovery." It reboots and tries to enter Recovery for a second, then fails, then boots as normal.

ROM Manager says that he has version 2.5.0.7 but when I actually look inside his Recovery it says 2.5.0.6. What's going on here? I realize now that he has the ClockworkMod recovery he can just flash stuff manually, but what's the point of ROM Manager if it can't boot into Recovery and do all that stuff for you?

Thats part of the trade off to get the DX. Because of the locked bootloader you will find yourself using Rom Manager a lot less and manually doing stuff a lot more. Rom Manager is not nearly as valuable on the DX as it is on the Incredible.

There is a FULL 2.2 OTA sbf available to start from scratch but if you choose to upgrade to the newest leak you should know there is only a System partition SBF and a Recovery partition SBF. There is no full SBF available at this time. Know that once you upgrade to the 2.2.1 leak there is no going back and that if you don't take the time to read through the entire thread and instructions it is very possible to brick the device. Proceed with caution.

GMB

 

[cartisdm]

Thats part of the trade off to get the DX. Because of the locked bootloader you will find yourself using Rom Manager a lot less and manually doing stuff a lot more. Rom Manager is not nearly as valuable on the DX as it is on the Incredible.

There is a FULL 2.2 OTA sbf available to start from scratch but if you choose to upgrade to the newest leak you should know there is only a System partition SBF and a Recovery partition SBF. There is no full SBF available at this time. Know that once you upgrade to the 2.2.1 leak there is no going back and that if you don't take the time to read through the entire thread and instructions it is very possible to brick the device. Proceed with caution.

GMB

EEK!!!!

Thanks for all the info man! I had no idea the DX differed from the Incredible so much. When the Incredible was expecting an OTA update, I had to manually update my rooted phone BEFORE I received the OTA update notification otherwise I'd screw it up. Is my friend going to encounter the same situation? His DX is rooted so I don't want him to get himself in a bind...

 

[Scooter70]

As long as you stick with a ROM that's based on something with a full SBF, you really can't kill it. Stay with one based on 2.3.15 and you'll be all set. I recommend ApeX 1.0.

http://androidforums.com/droid-x-al...-v1-0-droid-x-aosp-experience-10-20-10-a.html

 

[cartisdm]

As long as you stick with a ROM that's based on something with a full SBF, you really can't kill it. Stay with one based on 2.3.15 and you'll be all set. I recommend ApeX 1.0.

http://androidforums.com/droid-x-al...-v1-0-droid-x-aosp-experience-10-20-10-a.html

I think he was hoping more to remain on the Stock ROM. By remaining on the Stock ROM, but being rooted, what upcoming precautions does he need to take in order to not screw up his phone when they push an OTA update?

 

[Scooter70]

I think he was hoping more to remain on the Stock ROM. By remaining on the Stock ROM, but being rooted, what upcoming precautions does he need to take in order to not screw up his phone when they push an OTA update?

I see. With the new bootloader in the leaked 320, nobody knows what will happen when the time comes for an OTA update. Those of us who have taken the plunge and jumped to it are putting faith in the dev community that they'll figure something out eventually. They haven't stranded us yet.

 

[cartisdm]

I see. With the new bootloader in the leaked 320, nobody knows what will happen when the time comes for an OTA update. Those of us who have taken the plunge and jumped to it are putting faith in the dev community that they'll figure something out eventually. They haven't stranded us yet.

Gotchya. How does this sound then?

1. He forgets about doing anything with the leaked update (for now)
2. Does a factory reset
3. Creates a nandroid backup of his fresh stock installation
4. Downloads ROM manager and Bootstrapper again
5. Experiments with some custom ROMs
6. If he gets bored or doesn't find any he likes, he just goes back to his stock backup


Side question: I've never actually had to use any of my nandroid backups. Do they create mirror images so all his settings, apps, screen layouts all get saved?

 

[GrandMasterB]

Gotchya. How does this sound then?

1. He forgets about doing anything with the leaked update (for now)
2. Does a factory reset
3. Creates a nandroid backup of his fresh stock installation
4. Downloads ROM manager and Bootstrapper again
5. Experiments with some custom ROMs
6. If he gets bored or doesn't find any he likes, he just goes back to his stock backup


Side question: I've never actually had to use any of my nandroid backups. Do they create mirror images so all his settings, apps, screen layouts all get saved?

That is a textbook perfect example of how to do it. You get a Scooby Snack! Just remember each ROM will have specific install instructions to follow, make sure he follows them! Also makes sure he steers clear of of anything intended for the new leak and he is well advised to avoid the leak all together for the time being.

A Nandroid is a perfect mirrored copy of everything on device. Hypothetically speaking its and Android Time Machine that will take your device back to exactly how it was 2 days ago.

GMB

 

[cartisdm]

That is a textbook perfect example of how to do it. You get a Scooby Snack! Just remember each ROM will have specific install instructions to follow, make sure he follows them! Also makes sure he steers clear of of anything intended for the new leak and he is well advised to avoid the leak all together for the time being.

A Nandroid is a perfect mirrored copy of everything on device. Hypothetically speaking its and Android Time Machine that will take your device back to exactly how it was 2 days ago.

GMB

Awesome, all you guys rock. Thanks so much for all the help. I'll go advise my friend!