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...Finally, if something Android based does come on the scene that I want, my wife will be happy to have the iPad. If not, I have something I can use now.

Excellent point! I've been hoping for the Toshiba to drop but now I think that mother nature Quakes, Tsunami and Atoms may put a bigger delay than I would be willing to wait for. And if another device does come out the wife would be happy!.
 
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I'm thinking that may affect any number of tech devices....

My point is that the wife is very un-tech with her HTC Shift, its almost a waste.
She is just not interested in any kind of customization or features. IPAD would work very well for her. In fact as I bounce back and forth between the two I've notices that there are tons of women on the IPAD boards who else would care about a pink case.
 
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My point is that the wife is very un-tech with her HTC Shift, its almost a waste.
She is just not interested in any kind of customization or features. IPAD would work very well for her. In fact as I bounce back and forth between the two I've notices that there are tons of women on the IPAD boards who else would care about a pink case.

I'm not referring to wives, but to earthquakes. :)
 
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I finally made a decision tonight and purchased an iPad 2. I debated over it and took another look at the XOOM tonight but just wasn't convinced. The XOOM just doesn't seem ready for prime time and I would rather not wait for it to mature.

I know I could root or tinker with it but the reality is I work 40 to 50 hours a week in IT and I just don't want to do that when I come home too. The iPad will work great and yes, I know there are limitations but I am fine with that.

Also influencing my decision is I do own an iPod touch and like it and have about $100 in apps I have purchased for it.

Finally, if something Android based does come on the scene that I want, my wife will be happy to have the iPad. If not, I have something I can use now.

This is a response/opinion I can appreciate. I love the Xoom but everyone has their own opinions and I appreciate yours.

Hope to see you on a Xoom/Honeycomb tablet eventually.
 
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And apparently the iPad2 is held together with bailing wire and chewing gum according to this teardown which more or less says it is unrepairable (thus built to be disposable):

iPad 2 teardown reveals lots of glue and double stick tape | DVICE


Cheaper and simpler to make with that process and they STILL can not make enough of them. Hate to think how backed up orders would be if built like the Xoom. To me, the Xoom is built better, but folks luv them there iPads.
 
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Like I always say....enjoy your icons

I wished there were widgets and a notification/status bar but having those isn't worth the other trade offs.

I didn't mention this before but I did take some time to load a couple of apps I use often and would want/need to use on the XOOM on the demo model at the store. They didn't scale and were choppy. I have seen the apps on an iPad (which I use on my iPod) and they are flawless.

Again I hold out hope there will be an Android tablet with a more polish OS in the future but for now (or in 4 to 5 week when it ships), an iPad is my choice.
 
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I wished there were widgets and a notification/status bar but having those isn't worth the other trade offs.

I didn't mention this before but I did take some time to load a couple of apps I use often and would want/need to use on the XOOM on the demo model at the store. They didn't scale and were choppy. I have seen the apps on an iPad (which I use on my iPod) and they are flawless.

Again I hold out hope there will be an Android tablet with a more polish OS in the future but for now (or in 4 to 5 week when it ships), an iPad is my choice.

That is what I am finding as well. I could live with it if it was a cheaper price but it really seems like an unfinished project at this point.
 
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That is what I am finding as well. I could live with it if it was a cheaper price but it really seems like an unfinished project at this point.

Even at the rumored Sam's Club price for a wifi only version, it still was too much.

One last tidbit, I did order a new HTC Thunderbolt this morning. I am sure I will love it like my Incredible (or even the clunky old Motorola Droid).
 
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I wished there were widgets and a notification/status bar but having those isn't worth the other trade offs.

I didn't mention this before but I did take some time to load a couple of apps I use often and would want/need to use on the XOOM on the demo model at the store. They didn't scale and were choppy. I have seen the apps on an iPad (which I use on my iPod) and they are flawless.

Again I hold out hope there will be an Android tablet with a more polish OS in the future but for now (or in 4 to 5 week when it ships), an iPad is my choice.

Dude, rumor is that iOS 5 will add widgets and a better notification system. iOS 5 is supposed to be a huge upgrade as far as Apple's mobile OS is concerned.
 
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Dude, rumor is that iOS 5 will add widgets and a better notification system. iOS 5 is supposed to be a huge upgrade as far as Apple's mobile OS is concerned.
Oh yeah... HUGE. I bet Job is going to say they are the FIRST to have notification and widgets and everyone will just nod vigouously in agreement and be all amazed. WOW :rolleyes:
 
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I am at a conference and just got to play with the iPad 2 for the first time. I must say that I'm not blown away impressed. Here are my thoughts afer 30 minutes of play time:

iPadd is boring. Truly it is. With my beautiful weather live wallpaper flowing in the background vs. her iPad 2 wallpaper, the WOW factor at first glance the Xoom wins hands down.

Overall quickness/snappyness/smoothness goes to the iPad2. I think I can explain it away as I have 3 fullscreens of widgets and live wallpaper going and she has a screen full of inactive icons. But whatever the reason when i scroll from screen to screen, the iPad2 was flawless, smooth and quick. My Xoom can be a bit lagy at times. Not enough to make me sorry that I bought it rather than the iPad, but it is noticable.

Screen beautyat 100% coin flip. Both are beautiful to my eye and for where I surfed and played I couldn't really tell much of a difference.

Speed of browser also a toss up. Depended on what website I tried to load, both were literallly 3-5 seconds apart.

Feel in my hand iPad 2 was a bit lighter in my hand but not enought to tell the difference if I wasn't sitting there holding both and and trying to feel the differnece.

User interface, I willl go with my Xoom. I was shocked at this. I truly expected the iPad's UI to wipe my Honeycomb off the map. It didn't. I love how honeycome does not have any physical buttons on the front. I love that honeycomb has the rotating Home, Multi-tasking menu and back arrows on screen. I found myself fumbling with that button on the front of the iPad. Then again this was the first time I've handled anything Apple in 5 years. As someone that is "new" to the Apple interface, not impressed.

With the integration of pure OS driven apps it's personal preference. If you have invested the past 10 years buying stuff through the iStore I can see why you would want to go with Apple's products. For someone like me that hated Apple due to DRM music 5 years ago and stopped buying their crap then, I invested my time and money into Android Market and Google apps. Now I'm neck deep in Android. Therefore, I love gmail, picasa, docs, and especially maps. I can see where iPhoto is better, but I don't use photo editors on my tablet, iMovie is worlds better than Movies on my Xoom, but I don't edit movies on my Xoom. If you have an Apple computer and you use those services there, you need an iPad2. MOST of the world does NOT compute on an Apple computer. Windows is still king. Maps rocks integrated into my Xoom, it felt clumsy in the iPad, not nearly as smooth. I'd liken it to the lag that I experienced when scrolling screens on the Xoom vs. the iPad2. It felt that laggy and unnatural.

The keyboard on the iPad was large and nice. I really liked it. Typing felt more natural than the Xooms keyboard. I know you can switch but I was looking stock to stock. Google needs to get on the ball with BlindType and get this on Honeycomb, then it will blow Apple away there.

I'm leaving things like Flash off of the discussion, those things are obvious and have been talked to death.

After my first hands on experience, I'm glad I chose my Xoom. It fits me. It's what Ineed and what I like. No regrets here.
 
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Cheaper and simpler to make with that process and they STILL can not make enough of them. Hate to think how backed up orders would be if built like the Xoom. To me, the Xoom is built better, but folks luv them there iPads.

I'm really glad the ipad is basically unavailable. On at least three occasions I've gotten frustrated with my Xoom and would have exchanged it if I could have found an ipad. In every case it turned out to be a simple learning curve problem with the operator. :eek:

As I get used to the Xoom I like it more and more, but that doesn't mean setting it up to smoothly do what I want can't be frustrating :eek:.
 
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I will honestly comment owning both that I think the iPad 2 is built better and is better thought out.

The smaller bezel is annoying. The volume rocker is the stupidest thing I have seen...It is no deal breaker, but it is realllllly annoying. Not saying the build quality is crap on the xoom, but I think its a tad bit better on the iPad 2. The hardware build quality is not why I am leaning towards the iPad 2...its the entire ecosystem...

I did have fun with the Xoom though.
 
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I'm really glad the ipad is basically unavailable. On at least three occasions I've gotten frustrated with my Xoom and would have exchanged it if I could have found an ipad. In every case it turned out to be a simple learning curve problem with the operator. :eek:

As I get used to the Xoom I like it more and more, but that doesn't mean setting it up to smoothly do what I want can't be frustrating :eek:.

This is what it's all about! ;)
 
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I agree that some amount of off topic back-and-forth between users is expected and A-O-K. It just happens. Natural conversation flow tends to find its way all over the place.

However, I also agree once it becomes more than a few back and a forths it certainly needs to be taken to PM or broke into a new thread if the users want to continue the discussion. There are people out there that search Google for "Ipad vs xoom" and may land right on this thread.

They will want to see relevant discussion, not weed through stuff they don't care about.

So, please try to keep the discussion on topic, wander a little here and there - but if needed, mods should break conversation into it's own thread. Thanks all for understanding! :)
 
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I will honestly comment owning both that I think the iPad 2 is built better and is better thought out.

The smaller bezel is annoying. The volume rocker is the stupidest thing I have seen...It is no deal breaker, but it is realllllly annoying. Not saying the build quality is crap on the xoom, but I think its a tad bit better on the iPad 2. The hardware build quality is not why I am leaning towards the iPad 2...its the entire ecosystem...

I did have fun with the Xoom though.

I would agree. I definitely prefer the overall feel of the iPad, especially the larger bezel. BUT it has more deal breakers for me than the Xoom, so it still wasn't really a choice for me. But I do wish the Xoom was the size/shape of the iPad.
 
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I know it's not the right place but . . . if I see "If you don't have an iPhone" ad campaign ONE MORE TIME during the tournament I think I'll throw my Xoom through my TV. If you don't have an iPhone, you don't have a bookstore on your phone, um unless I have Google Books. If you don't have an iPhone, you don't have iTunes. Thank God. If you don't have an iPhone . . . AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!
 
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I know it's not the right place but . . . if I see "If you don't have an iPhone" ad campaign ONE MORE TIME during the tournament I think I'll throw my Xoom through my TV. If you don't have an iPhone, you don't have a bookstore on your phone, um unless I have Google Books. If you don't have an iPhone, you don't have iTunes. Thank God. If you don't have an iPhone . . . AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!

Exactly why I don't watch live TV.
 
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Its "superiority" is not based on just specs alone. It's the total user experience.

This is something many don't get. All they see are specs.

When you pick up a device, the more positive the experience the more you'll want to use the device, and potentially be a repeat customer. This is why Apple wins. Apple is a very user experience-centric company. This is why the iPad succeeded where other tablets failed.

I like the Xoom, but not enough to buy one. If I were buying a tablet, it would be an iPad2 or iPad1. And I don't even own an iPod. I said the Xoom would flop, and it has because most feel the same way.

Honeycomb needs lots of work. It's a step in the right direction though.

As far as Android tablets, the HTC Flyer interests me more than the Galaxy 10.1 or Xoom.
 
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