Mine is fairly loud, I feel like the Touch Pro I had up until the 6th rang louder though. So I did find a solution (that maybe no one wants to go through). I write music and for mastering I use a program called Sound Forge. I can use a compressor/limiter to really buff up the volume (without messing the phone up or distoring the ringers). I noticed there were no ringers I really liked, so I found an old ROM for my Touch Pro, and pulled out one of the ringers, ran it through this compressor, and the used Ringoid to put it on the phone. Now I have the ringer I'm used to hearing, and it's nice and loud! PM me, I can do it for you as well!