Root To root or not to root

[Heroic]

Hi guys
I recently got me a sweet Hero to get me out of the iPhone misery and I gotta say its nice, but I got a serious doubt that might sound a little dumb so experts please bear with me on this one:
My Htc Hero is spanish, originally from Orange since it gots that ugly sticker on the back and the animation at boot up from them is so obvious. So I unlocked it through imei with Orange and now its unlocked.
Question is: Can I root and install ROMs like I use to do in my loved before Diamond? Is my phone CMDA or can I root like a normall unlocked version?
Thanks for the info

 

[vido.ardes]

Hi guys
I recently got me a sweet Hero to get me out of the iPhone misery and I gotta say its nice, but I got a serious doubt that might sound a little dumb so experts please bear with me on this one:
My Htc Hero is spanish, originally from Orange since it gots that ugly sticker on the back and the animation at boot up from them is so obvious. So I unlocked it through imei with Orange and now its unlocked.
Question is: Can I root and install ROMs like I use to do in my loved before Diamond? Is my phone CMDA or can I root like a normall unlocked version?
Thanks for the info

You can root an install custom ROM's, although it can be a difficult process. I would suggest doing quite alot of research before hand.

Your phone is GSM, anythign bought in europe will be

 

[Heroic]

Thanks for the info, so your recomendation would be to hold tight and not mess with it? I am reading the Modaco process and I think its pretty well explained.. What really worries me is...Will the unlock process i did with the code get like erased somehow or somewhere and I will be locked again to Orange?



Cheeers!

 

[G8D]

Root it. It's relatively easy and if you don't experiment too much you will be safe installing ROMs.

 

[Heroic]

Root it. It's relatively easy and if you don't experiment too much you will be safe installing ROMs.

Thats cool am gonna go for it!
But will I lose the imei unlock code process i followed and paid 45 euros for?
And when android 2.1 update comes out officially will I be able to update?
Thanks for beering with me on this one

 

[vido.ardes]

Thats cool am gonna go for it!
But will I lose the imei unlock code process i followed and paid 45 euros for?
And when android 2.1 update comes out officially will I be able to update?
Thanks for beering with me on this one

You will be able to update to the offical ROM, but you will have to re-root if you wanted to change again.

I don't know about the unlock, I would be surprised if you lost it but I wouldn't take my word for it

 

[Heroic]

Is the Modaco 3.1 the right option to root? any other ROM

 

[Slug]

But will I lose the imei unlock code process i followed and paid 45 euros for?

No, that won't be affected at all.

And when android 2.1 update comes out officially will I be able to update?

Good question. As yours was originally tied to Orange I suspect that you'll still only be able to use the Orange-sanctioned update, unless the SIM unlock also removed the CID lock(s). I could well be wrong though.... it wouldn't be the first time.

However, it's highly likely that there will be a custom 2.x ROM available before the official one is released. Chefs have inside sources, and leaks happen....

Oh, and in answer to your last question - MCR3.1 is an excellent choice. Much improved performance and loads of added functionality.

 

[Anderson]

What are the advantages of MCR3.1 over the current ROM?

 

[Heroic]

Thanks alot for the support , am gonna flash it...Now!

 

[Slug]

What are the advantages of MCR3.1 over the current ROM?

By "current" I assume you mean the stock 2.73.xxx.xx ROM(s)?

The most comprehensive list of enhancements is available here. In short, it's faster, more efficient, and more functional.

 

[Slug]

am gonna flash it...Now!

Hope you've read the instructions, and then read them again. Then read once more and remember.....

Once you've successfully flashed the recovery image, make a Nandroid backup before proceeding further!

If anything goes wrong (unlikely but it happens) or you simply don't like the ROM, this will return your handset to the exact state it was in pre-MCR. I can't emphasise enough how important this backup tool is!

 

[quantumrand]

Sorry Heroic, not to steal your thread, but I have a quick question for Slug.

Slug, I have MCR 2.9 installed right now, but I have gone through the painstaking process of removing some of the bundled apps with the adb mount BS, and I know updating to 3.1 will put it all back on. Can I just open up the zip and delete those apps from the data and app folders before updating to prevent them from installing?

 

[bluenova]

I'm gonna jump in as well as it seems silly to start a new thread...

I have a stock HTC hero (from HTC) but the build version is 2.73.1100.5 this is a higher number than the claimed latest build (2.73.405.66). According to Modaco you don't need to wipe if you have a stock 2.73.x build, does this include me?

 

[Barretta]

Hope you've read the instructions, and then read them again. Then read once more and remember.....

Once you've successfully flashed the recovery image, make a Nandroid backup before proceeding further!

If anything goes wrong (unlikely but it happens) or you simply don't like the ROM, this will return your handset to the exact state it was in pre-MCR. I can't emphasise enough how important this backup tool is!

Hey Slug, I have a question regarding your post here... Since I don't see Nandroid in my market i assume it is paid... right? Unfortunately if thats the case I cannot go further with rooting. See, I am from Bulgaria and here the paid apps arent going to be available soon .

But if I am wrong and nandroid (or a similar app) can be installed, can I backup my original ROM (2.73.xxx.xx) and revert back to it if the Modaco version fails (or my phone bricks for some reason). My trouble is that the custom ROM will void the warrancy. So if something happens I want to have a backup plan to restore the original ROM.

 

[bluenova]

Hey Slug, I have a question regarding your post here... Since I don't see Nandroid in my market i assume it is paid... right? Unfortunately if thats the case I cannot go further with rooting. See, I am from Bulgaria and here the paid apps arent going to be available soon .

But if I am wrong and nandroid (or a similar app) can be installed, can I backup my original ROM (2.73.xxx.xx) and revert back to it if the Modaco version fails (or my phone bricks for some reason). My trouble is that the custom ROM will void the warrancy. So if something happens I want to have a backup plan to restore the original ROM.

As I understand it, Nandroid is part of the custom recovery image.

 

[vido.ardes]

Hey Slug, I have a question regarding your post here... Since I don't see Nandroid in my market i assume it is paid... right? Unfortunately if thats the case I cannot go further with rooting. See, I am from Bulgaria and here the paid apps arent going to be available soon .

But if I am wrong and nandroid (or a similar app) can be installed, can I backup my original ROM (2.73.xxx.xx) and revert back to it if the Modaco version fails (or my phone bricks for some reason). My trouble is that the custom ROM will void the warrancy. So if something happens I want to have a backup plan to restore the original ROM.

Nandroid is not an application. Once you have gon through the process of installing a custom recovery image, there is an option to do a Nandroid backup

I'm gonna jump in as well as it seems silly to start a new thread...

I have a stock HTC hero (from HTC) but the build version is 2.73.1100.5 this is a higher number than the claimed latest build (2.73.405.66). According to Modaco you don't need to wipe if you have a stock 2.73.x build, does this include me?

That is true, but you will still need to root your phone first

 

[Barretta]

As I understand it, Nandroid is part of the custom recovery image.

You are probably right... I must do some reading I guess... My concern was if I can revert to the original ROM if something happens, but I guess if a hardware issue arises, nothing can be done and I will lose warranty.

 

[vjprakashbe]

You are probably right... I must do some reading I guess... My concern was if I can revert to the original ROM if something happens, but I guess if a hardware issue arises, nothing can be done and I will lose warranty.

Yes! we can revert back to the original ROM if the Nandroid backup was proper. Warranty is not only for hardware, we will loose it even if we try altering the stock ROM in any way including rooting.

 

[Slug]

I have MCR 2.9 installed right now, but I have gone through the painstaking process of removing some of the bundled apps with the adb mount BS, and I know updating to 3.1 will put it all back on. Can I just open up the zip and delete those apps from the data and app folders before updating to prevent them from installing?

Nope, as the zip file is signed and altering the contents will break this and result in a verification error when you try to install it. Paul is currently trialling a browser-based "ROM kitchen" which will allow you to cook up your own custom update and include/exclude whatever you wish - more details over at the MoDaCo Hero forum.

My own solution is to use a root-aware file manager on the handset and delete unwanted apps that way - much quicker than the PC command-line and handier. I stripped my latest test build down last night in bed!

 

[Heroic]

To say the truth I have been playing with my Hero all day and apart from seen a few apps that were not there before, this version is almost identical to the original ROM i had yesterday so I cant fully appreciate the change in the MCR 3.1.
Maybe someone can enlightend me?

 

[Slug]

Maybe someone can enlightend me?

Nah, that would spoil the fun. Just keep using it and you'll see....

 

[Heroic]

Nah, that would spoil the fun. Just keep using it and you'll see....

Sure i