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VZW nexus one price?

I'm waiting for the nexus one to come to vzw but I just came accross the following article:

Verizon: CDMA Nexus One will be offered by Google only - SlashGear


Does this mean that vzw will not subsidize the phone?

Also any connections to hint as to what spring 2010 means? I'm dying for a smart phone

1) The Nexus One is offered by Google only right now, but TMobile is subsidizing the phone. So there's a 99% chance VZW will subsidize it too. Common logic answer #1.

2) What does spring 2010 mean? Get a calendar. Common logic answer #2.
 
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If you read my other post, in an interview with Erick Tseng, Joshua Topolsky (of Engadget) sat down and asked Erick about the VZW partnership. The short answer is: They haven't firmed up anything yet and it appears they're still negotiating the terms of the partnership.

The reason why Joshua asked is because he asked the Verizon officials in attendance at CES, how they were going to handle the N1. Much like what this article is saying, the VZ officials said that GOOGLE will sell the N1 and VZW will provide plans for the phone. In other words, VZW will not participate in the selling of the phone in the way T-Mo has partnered up. Joshua's impression was that VZW will NOT subsidize the phone (likely because it competes with carrier options, in store). Erick could not deny that, only to say that "we're still working with VZ."

Seems like VZW is willing to partner by providing the plans, but won't subsidize the phone. In that train of thought, the N1 would be $530 for a CDMA N1 SKU + some sort of VZW plan, in addition. This obviously isn't attractive to buyers. But the good news is, this certainly opens up the doors for a VZW subsidized HTC version of the N1 as the flagship non-keyboard Android phone. YAY!
 
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I'm waiting for the nexus one to come to vzw but I just came accross the following article:

Verizon: CDMA Nexus One will be offered by Google only - SlashGear


Does this mean that vzw will not subsidize the phone?

Also any connections to hint as to what spring 2010 means? I'm dying for a smart phone

The article would suggest that everything is going to be the same for Verizon as Tmobile. Logically though if they go through with that idea you'll continue to see lack luster sales of the N1. The N1 is just not that much better then the Droid to warrant the increased cost of the phone (with the exception of new subscribers) nor being deprived of the option of a 1 year contract.
 
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A little off topic, but didn't want to start a new thread for this.

Anyone notice this statement at the nexus one launch event @ CES:

11:27 - Q. Will the Verizon version have GSM support as well? A. Future handsets will feature full support for CDMA and GSM networks for global roaming.

Does this mean it will be a world phone?
And could this mean the phone would be just like the vodafone version? i.e. same phone/could both come out at the same time?
 
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1) The Nexus One is offered by Google only right now, but TMobile is subsidizing the phone. So there's a 99% chance VZW will subsidize it too. Common logic answer #1.

2) What does spring 2010 mean? Get a calendar. Common logic answer #2.

tmobile is not subsidizing the nexus one. google is offering a reduced price for signing up for tmobile through them. although similar to subsidizing, it is not.

google gets paid by tmobile for signing up customers to tmobile. this is why the reduced price. but if tmobile were subsidizing the phone you would be able to buy it through them. you would (like the other phones they sell) be able to pay for the phone with monthly payments through tmobile. like the the mytouch or cliq that you pay $400 with out a contract, but you can pay for it over 20 months. or you can sign a contract and pay $149, but you still pay an extra $20 monthly in the contracted plan. if you are going to do this get the non contracted plan. you pay the same monthly for 20 months and then it goes down $20. and you dont have to pay the initial $149 and no contract.

similar yes...subsidized through tmobile no.
 
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A little off topic, but didn't want to start a new thread for this.

Anyone notice this statement at the nexus one launch event @ CES:

11:27 - Q. Will the Verizon version have GSM support as well? A. Future handsets will feature full support for CDMA and GSM networks for global roaming.

Does this mean it will be a world phone?
And could this mean the phone would be just like the vodafone version? i.e. same phone/could both come out at the same time?

I thought the context of the Q and A was that this answer was about future phones following the Nexus One. The Nexus One will not be a world phone. Can't remember. Would have to go back through the transcript again.

Edit: Also, this could be a foreshadowing for LTE capability in upcoming handsets. Verizon and AT&T (along with other GSM carriers worldwide) will be going to LTE for 4G which works off of SIM cards like GSM/UMTS now. The problem is that it'll be years before LTE is completely built out. Phones will need to be 4G/3G capable. How do you make a phone that can be used with Verizon or AT&T with 4G capability? Qualcomm's future radio chipsets with LTE are fallback capable to both UMTS and EVDO. Tri-mode, if you will. That would be inclusive of world-mode, provided the correct banding is covered.
 
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Don't know if this helps, but according to Qualcomm's web site, single-core Snapdragon only comes 2 ways right now- the QSD8250, which is the GSM chipset in the N1 now, and the QSD8650, which is both CDMA and GSM.

Here's the link:

Snapdragon™, Qualcomm Snapdragon™, QCT Snapdragon™ - QCTConnect.com


So, it looks like the CDMA capable N1 will likely be a world phone, unless Google/HTC/VZW place some type of limitation in the software.
 
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That's processor capabilities and every processor must be paired with the appropriate radios. You can build a CDMA or GSM phone with the 8650 and it not be dual-mode capable if you leave out one of the radios. I believe Qualcomm builds the GSM-only version as a lower cost alternative to the dominate GSM world market. The reason the CDMA version also supports GSM is since CDMA has such a small market share, they want to cater to the possibility of a manufacturer wanting a phone to be world capable, or multi-mode, if you will. Very possible the CDMA Nexus One with the 8650 will be CDMA-only, but until it's released, that remains to be seen.

Very good point. I just assumed that with the N1 being a high-end, flag-ship device, Google/HTC/VZW would include a multi-mode radio since the chipset is capable of supporting it. But, as you point out, it is just speculation until the official specs are released.
 
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Very good point. I just assumed that with the N1 being a high-end, flag-ship device, Google/HTC/VZW would include a multi-mode radio since the chipset is capable of supporting it. But, as you point out, it is just speculation until the official specs are released.

Well the snapdragon is also capable of 12 megapixel picture taking. It may just be the extra cost of including more goodies into the phone. I dont know if a "world" radio is significantly more then a pure CDMA radio but it might have something to do with it.
 
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Well the snapdragon is also capable of 12 megapixel picture taking. It may just be the extra cost of including more goodies into the phone. I dont know if a "world" radio is significantly more then a pure CDMA radio but it might have something to do with it.

I actually think they're physically separate entities (different radio chips). So, an extra unit cost for the extra chip would get factored in, and don'g t forget more real estate required internally. The N1 is thin, and the Bravo is slated to be the same. Not sure if they can cram all that in there. To date, the Verizon world phones have tended to have some heft to them. I know my Storm is world capable and it's not slim by any means. Same with the other BB's (Tour et al).
 
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