Attain 4.3" screen instead of 4.5"=major letdown

[Sandroidfan]

I too am confused by the lack of LTE and the smaller screen. Looks like I will be waiting for the Holiday. Can someone who knows more than me explain to me why these devices won't have LTE?

I think the better question is why do you need LTE on AT&T now? How much area did they cover so far with LTE? If their HSPA+ is as good as they claim to market it as 4G with 21Mbps speed, how much is the speed gain from LTE?

As for the screen size debate, a lot of folks are still overlooking ppi issue and merely looking at physical size as I mentioned before. Bumping up screen size hurts sharpness if it doesn't come with resolution increase. I think 4.3" is already pushing limit for WVGA resolution. You really need at least qHD or HD resolution from 4.5" and beyond.

 

[RX-78-2]

Why don't they use the super amoled plus on the galaxy note?

 

[Artisan]

Oh God, now I want the Galaxy Note! *sigh*

I think I will just keep racking up 30 day returns at this rate.

 

[Sandroidfan]

I think Galaxy Note might come to AT&T as Prime like phone while Verizon is getting Droid Prime. It has GSM/HSPA+ radio.

 

[MisterEd]

Why don't they use the super amoled plus on the galaxy note?

Because it's the Super HD Amoled. That's like PLUS PLUS.

 

[MisterEd]

Oh God, now I want the Galaxy Note! *sigh*

I think I will just keep racking up 30 day returns at this rate.

I'm pretty sure you can only have ONE 30 day return/refund of a device under the guarantee, you can't "stack" them. That's why I like Costco, you have a 90 day Window. Buy now and you have until Dec 1st to swap although I don't think Costco carries ALL the available devices. I know they don't carry the iPhone/iPad.

 

[MisterEd]

Guys, really?...Really?

I can't believe 0.2" diagonal would make any bit of difference to anyone, realistically. Holding both side-by-side, I doubt most folks would even notice without taking out a ruler.

I superimposed the AT&T screen onto the Sprint screen for reference.

If you're referring to the screen size to me it makes a very noticeable difference. I've compared 4.5 to 4.3 numerous times at various mobile stores and it's really more than the 2/10th everyone mentions because it increases total square inches area. The 2/10th is only the diagonal measurement increase. When I went from a 50" to a 52" TV the difference was very noticeable. It may have been only 2" in diagonal measurement but the screen area in sq inches L x W was much bigger than the 50" and quite obvious.

If you're talking about the actual physical size of the phone, from the store tests I've tried (obviously not on the Attain) to ME it makes hardly any difference.

 

[RX-78-2]

Because it's the Super HD Amoled. That's like PLUS PLUS.

Isn't the samoled HD using pentile while the samoled+ doesn't? (please help me understand this lol)

Also I read on engadget that the galaxy note will be using a single core 1.4GHz exynos, is that correct?

 

[Sandroidfan]

Isn't the samoled HD using pentile while the samoled+ doesn't? (please help me understand this lol)

Also I read on engadget that the galaxy note will be using a single core 1.4GHz exynos, is that correct?

HD means resolution and + means square RGB pixels (no pentile matrix). It's referring to different characteristic of display. The one on Note is Super AMOLED HD, which means HD resolution and pentile AMOLED pixels.

And that's 1.4Ghz dual core Exynos. There is no such thing as single core Exynos.

 

[Mr. Ed]

The other Mr Ed just said the difference in physical size is minute and the difference in screen size is huge Contradict much?

Did i misuse negligible? the difference in screensize is not noticeable

difference in phone size is.

i am going to see if my sammy friend will let me take pics tonight.

 

[shark974]

Actually, the difference in phone size is not noticeable, difference in screen size is.

Haha I knew Galaxy Note would be in this thread...to me the Galaxy Note might actually be too big, but I'm intrigued at least, I'd have to see it in person. I'm interested, at the least. Looks like it's coming to ATT too, so, perfect!

If nothing else the Galaxy Note proves to me that a 4.7-4.9 will be here before you know it and very usable. Actually theres already a 4.7" WP7 phone coming as well.

But the Note proves exactly what I said, if I had bought the Attain, I would have been mad as these new bigger and bigger phones like the note get announced and I would have been left behind! I didn't want the same sinking feeling I had with my captivate, I want at LEAST 4.5 inches!

BTW part one, I noticed one website (think it was Android Central) saying the ATT SGS2 is not actually called the Attain it's just called the Galaxy S 2...guess this forum is misnamed going forward LOL.

And BTW part 2, it looks like the Galaxy S 2 LTE 4.5" version I was hoping for, is indeed headed to ATT according to an engadget post today...http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/01/...f-at-the-fcc-confesses-its-atandt-lte-secret/

Though with the SGS 2 just announced, I have to wonder why ATT would bother with an LTE version so soon, so I think we could be waiting a while, but it's still good news.

At this point though since my upgrade is in March (although I might be willing to pay 600 for a phone before then if the situation is right), and with huge phones like the Note, and hopefully ATT will get a version of the Nexus Prime, and Ice Cream coming eventually and yadda yadda, I'm kind of doubting I'll end up with a SGS2 at all, even the superior 4.5" LTE version. Might as well wait now I guess.

 

[MisterEd]

Actually, the difference in phone size is not noticeable, difference in screen size is.

I have to agree. I just came back from AT&T for the 3rd time and put my Infuse up against the Inspire and TO ME the screen size made a noticeable difference displaying the same webpage. To some it might not, but for my lousy eyes it really helped. While the Infuse physically was slightly larger it made absolutely no difference in how it "felt" where the slight difference in size would have made no difference in which one I used.

Holding the iPhone in my hand after having the Infuse was like playing with a toy (size wise not quality).

 

[Mr. Ed]

I have to agree. I just came back from AT&T for the 3rd time and put my Infuse up against the Inspire and TO ME the screen size made a noticeable difference displaying the same webpage. To some it might not, but for my lousy eyes it really helped. While the Infuse physically was slightly larger it made absolutely no difference in how it "felt" where the slight difference in size would have made no difference in which one I used.

Holding the iPhone in my hand after having the Infuse was like playing with a toy (size wise not quality).

I was able to get pics of the infuse and attain side by side. will post tomorrow

 

[DinoBurke]

Major bummer. I was so excited to get this phone when I thought we were going to get 4.5 inches of glory. Now I am just kinda excited. I saw the Galaxy Note and thought could I wait it out but then I just read an article that the Note will not be coming to the US. I am rocking a Captivate so it will be a huge improvement spec wise over my phone. Just having a camera flash will be huge but yeah I am dissapointed. But hey at least we are getting the fastest processor the Exeynos instead of the slightly slower processors that the other phones will have.

 

[Sandroidfan]

It's just beyond me that 0.2" difference in screen size is such big deal for some folks here. I think 4.3" is already pushing limit for WVGA resolution in ppi. You are only losing the picture sharpness, portability when going bigger screen at same resolution.

 

[Mr. Ed]

It's just beyond me that 0.2" difference in screen size is such big deal for some folks here. I think 4.3" is already pushing limit for WVGA resolution in ppi. You are only losing the picture sharpness, portability when going bigger screen at same resolution.

exactly...which is why text looks like garbage on the infuse imo

as promised..sorry they are blurry..I actually haven't used my point and shoot since buying an android phone lol. not to mention I had only a few moments left alone with the phone while he was "occupied"

 

[RX-78-2]

I's a beauty, please release it soon :s

 

[MisterEd]

It's just beyond me that 0.2" difference in screen size is such big deal for some folks here. I think 4.3" is already pushing limit for WVGA resolution in ppi. You are only losing the picture sharpness, portability when going bigger screen at same resolution.

It's 0.2" in the DIAGONAL but the screen area itself (L x W) make a lot more difference than the small amount of diagonal difference might indicate.

 

[KMPrenger]

I know the Attain isn't actually a whole lot smaller than the Infuse, but those pictures sure makes the Infuse look much bigger, all the more reason for me to be happy the Attain is 4.3".

Its not the screen size I care about (well, I care about that too)..its the phone size. The more easily pocketable the better.

Thanks for the shots.

 

[HeroNtheShadow]

I think the 4.3" is just fine for the screen. My current Iphone is 3.5" so it'll be a big upgrade. I looked at the Infuse closely in the store and did notice the pixilation of text and pics... especially if any zoom is used at all. I don't think the Infuse is too big.... i just think that it needs a higher res screen. If it was a Super AMOLED HD screen then i think it'd be just fine... If the Nexus Prime indeed has a HD screen that'd be nice... and the upcoming Note... heck it's got a 5.3" Super AMOLED HD screen so it should be ok. And about the overall size of the Infuse based on the pics... if you actually look at the Infuse in THAT pic... it has a case on it... whereas the Attain does not.. so that will add a little bulk. I'm just not going to whine about the Attain being 4.3" instead of 4.5".... to each their own.

 

[Mr. Ed]

I think the 4.3" is just fine for the screen. My current Iphone is 3.5" so it'll be a big upgrade. I looked at the Infuse closely in the store and did notice the pixilation of text and pics... especially if any zoom is used at all. I don't think the Infuse is too big.... i just think that it needs a higher res screen. If it was a Super AMOLED HD screen then i think it'd be just fine... If the Nexus Prime indeed has a HD screen that'd be nice... and the upcoming Note... heck it's got a 5.3" Super AMOLED HD screen so it should be ok. And about the overall size of the Infuse based on the pics... if you actually look at the Infuse in THAT pic... it has a case on it... whereas the Attain does not.. so that will add a little bulk. I'm just not going to whine about the Attain being 4.3" instead of 4.5".... to each their own.

thank you for noticing the case...I completely forgot that it was on there and it does make the infuse look a bit chunky.

 

[MisterEd]

thank you for noticing the case...I completely forgot that it was on there and it does make the infuse look a bit chunky.

LMBFFAO! You crack me up Nacho. You forgot there was a case on the phone! Seriously?

 

[Mr. Ed]

LMBFFAO! You crack me up Nacho. You forgot there was a case on the phone! Seriously?

Again you seem to miss what exactly was going on
but anyway....yeah I forgot. phone scooping isnt something I do for a living.. and the case has nothing to do with the screen size.

I'd say I have done pretty good considering haha..

 

[Android26]

Gosh, the Attain is perfect in pretty much every way for me. Plus, samsung has hooked me completely: I wouldn't dream of ever buying a non-AMOLED phone.

 

[Puddin422]

Thickness is sometimes more important than just length and width. Makes it feel much better in the palm.

I agree.