***Official Galaxy Nexus Pre-Release speculation thread**

[Deleted User]

proof the phone was running in debug mode please? why would they show off a phone if it was running slower? a recent build date does not mean its debug..

Proof that it's NOT running in debug mode please?

The point is you can't take non-production hardware and software and assume that the benchmarks are accurate.

 

[huskerkate]

Guys, the windsock, P3Droid, who I merrily punched in my dreams last night, has just announced that RAZR has been rooted.

That seals it. If Verizon Verizon's us again, I know where I'm going. I'm getting ICS in November, one way or another!

the RAZR isn't getting ICS until early 2012 (P3Droid or BMX suggested Feb). regardless, i may be in the same boat...

DROID RAZR to See Ice Cream Sandwich in Early 2012, Other Android 2.3 Devices “Should” as Well - Droid Life: A Droid Community Blog

 

[Jeepo]

Guys, the windsock, P3Droid, who I merrily punched in my dreams last night, has just announced that RAZR has been rooted.

That seals it. If Verizon Verizon's us again, I know where I'm going. I'm getting ICS in November, one way or another!

Good news but your making my decision harder!

 

[HanSolo]

Um - how can both of those things be true at the same time?

lol. I noticed that later and hoped no one would listen. I was to lazy to edit.

Anyone read this story?
Samsung Galaxy Nexus/ Google Ice Cream Sandwich launch points to signs of trouble in Androidland Unwired View

It's pretty bleak (CK, you reading this?), . . .

Reading it? I think he was their main contributor!

I kid, I kid.

Ftfy.

Edit and ps - because those are hard to impossible to know even when you try.

Your quote is quite different from what escaped my fingers. I feel so violated.

proof the phone was running in debug mode please? why would they show off a phone if it was running slower? a recent build date does not mean its debug..

I don't have it off hand. But that GL benchmark that was posted a few days ago (or was it yesterday? Time seems to stop in Androidland. . . .) said it was running in debug mode. There was a bunch of posts all about it, if you want to check a couple thousand back.

 

[X24]

You guys are all negative Nancys. Gnex subsidized in November on Verizon. Its going to happen.

 

[BLD]

We do have to remember that the average person is not going and looking at phandroid, so that could be a really biased number and not a true figure of what the general population is looking to get.

I already have 3 people that want this phone and they don't know what Phandroid is.

 

[HanSolo]

the RAZR isn't getting ICS until early 2012 (P3Droid or BMX suggested Feb). regardless, i may be in the same boat...

DROID RAZR to See Ice Cream Sandwich in Early 2012, Other Android 2.3 Devices

 

[Sandroidfan]

I'm sure the benchmarks will be close to the pre-releases. It is what it is.

Nexus devices are almost always surpased by others in a few months. The draw of the Nexus line is no carrier and manufacturer intervention in the OS.

Browser benchmarks of Nexus leaked today seems a little better than SGSII. I think Nexus will hold performance edge for at least 3~4 months until phones like SGSIII with quad core or crazy high clock arrive.

 

[BabyBlues]

Guys, the windsock, P3Droid, who I merrily punched in my dreams last night, has just announced that RAZR has been rooted.

That seals it. If Verizon Verizon's us again, I know where I'm going. I'm getting ICS in November, one way or another!

That's great news! (Still won't touch a motorola phone though - and Especially not one with a recycled name from my nightmares!

You guys are all negative Nancys. Gnex subsidized in November on Verizon. Its going to happen.

+ 1 billion

 

[cereal killer]

Anyone read this story?
Samsung Galaxy Nexus/ Google Ice Cream Sandwich launch points to signs of trouble in Androidland Unwired View

It's pretty bleak (CK, you reading this?), but points to the Google/Verizon tensions some of us have speculated are going on. Related to that, has anyone noticed that all of the leaks (except the Verizon Cellebrite) pointing to a G-Nex on Verizon have come from Google or Samsung? We have the subtle flashes of "Verizon Wireless" in the dropped down notification screen in the unveiling, we have the pictures of the G-Nex with Verizon's LTE logo on it that were subtly displayed during the unveiling. We have the Samsung rep Facebook that the G-Nex will come to Verizon first, only to then retract that statement. And finally we have the message from "Android Market" asking: "Verizon Wireless customers, Galaxy Nexus or Droid RAZR?"

If Verizon were feeling snubbed by Google and getting cold feet, it kind of looks to me like Google and Samsung are trying to put public pressure on Verizon to take the G-Nex (by making enough public "slips" that it would look poorly on Verizon for announcing they won't be offering the phone).

Yeah i guess people will have to decide for themselves I have made my stance known on this and im glad to see others have picked up on all the subtle clues or blatantly obvious clues (depending on how you see it)

Time will tell but to me it doesnt smell right........

 

[EarlyMon]

Comparing top end smartphones are like comparing a BMW, Audi, Mercedes or a Vette () to one another.

Some benchmark sites inform. Few. And only if you can decode the information.

The rest try to convince that the new favorite is a Testa Rosa in a sea of Ford Pintos.

The more I deal with benchmarks vs reports from end users hereabouts that I trust, the more I think of cellphone benchmarks as a series of parlor tricks.

Yes - they establish processor capabilities. Something already known by chip makers and freely shared with their customers.

Sorry, I get in these moods about benchmarks, so this is the last I'll post on the subject today, to spare everyone.

 

[schimm]

Some bloggers have too much time on their hands. As evidenced by the absence of facts.

 

[schimm]

Gimmie a octo-core processor in an ultra thin case with a 5 inch HD screen. I'm waiting for that and everything else will disappoint. And get it to me snappy.

 

[HanSolo]

I already have 3 people that want this phone and they don't know what Phandroid is.

Well that's your fault, isn't it?

 

[rushmore]

Right, but it's rooted. If we get screwed by Verizon again, the source code to ICS will be released soon, and the devs will be all over it.

I know, it's not the same. I'm just saying, I'd rather have something if I get burned again, like I did with the SGSII.

I'm not waiting past November. I just can't.

Having said that, I'm 110% sure we're getting the Nexus in early November. I'd be willing to stake my sterling, flawless reputation as an attorney on it.

Han, shouldn't you be devoting time to your next case, rather than hanging around here...... I guess I could assert the same thing my way as well........

 

[Nashdroid]

Hey Emon and Hans, have we seen a video of the full-screen video playback on the GNex yet? As in, using the FULL screen to play video. I want to see this and can't find a video demonstrating it.

 

[kcs7272]

May be late with this NEW! Introducing Galaxy Nexus. Simple, beautiful, beyond smart - YouTubeNEW! Introducing Galaxy Nexus. Simple, beautiful, beyond smart - YouTube

 

[dmiller2007]

Right, but it's rooted. If we get screwed by Verizon again, the source code to ICS will be released soon, and the devs will be all over it

As a Droid X owner, i can assure you that root far from guarantees AOSP roms on motorola devices. The RAZR won't see ICS until motorola updates it. I'm willing to bet on that.

 

[HanSolo]

Hey Emon and Hans, have we seen a video of the full-screen video playback on the GNex yet? As in, using the FULL screen to play video. I want to see this and can't find a video demonstrating it.

Not yet.

 

[kcs7272]

One more Galaxy Nexus. "????????" ???????? ????????? - YouTube

 

[HanSolo]

As a Droid X owner, i can assure you that root far from guarantees AOSP roms on motorola devices. The RAZR won't see ICS until motorola updates it. I'm willing to bet on that.

Thanks, I didn't know that. Oh well. Just throwing out that the razr got rooted.

I honestly don't doubt that we'll be seeing this soon.

 

[WalmartSecurity]

Right, but it's rooted. If we get screwed by Verizon again, the source code to ICS will be released soon, and the devs will be all over it.

I know, it's not the same. I'm just saying, I'd rather have something if I get burned again, like I did with the SGSII.

I'm not waiting past November. I just can't.

Having said that, I'm 110% sure we're getting the Nexus in early November. I'd be willing to stake my sterling, flawless reputation as an attorney on it.

But the bootloader is LOCKED. You wouldn't be able to load the ICS source on top of the Moto kernels.

Those with the DX have struggled through this. It took us over a year to get pure gingerbread. Even when 2.3 was released, the most devs could do was build roms with AOSP source files.

Who knows what type of new security they have? Chances are, even if ICS is released tomorrow for the RAZR, you wouldn't get the REAL (Blurless) google experience until either Moto unlocks it or some genius dev finds a way to bypass the bootloader.

 

[dmiller2007]

Thanks, I didn't know that. Oh well. Just throwing out that the razr got rooted.

I honestly don't doubt that we'll be seeing this soon.

Their bootloaders are so locked down, that i wouldn't feel comfortable taking that chance. I'll never buy motorola until they say that they will be unlocked on Verizon. Trust me, I've been through everything with Droid X, Motorola doesn't mess around. I'm sure they stepped it up even more with the RAZR.

 

[Jeepo]

Not sure how reliable this is as I am new to the android scene but:

European Motorola RAZR To Have Lockable/Unlockable Bootloader? - Droid Life: A Droid Community Blog

EU Razr will have an unlockable bootloader. Looks like you can blame Verizon not Moto. Want us Brits to send some unlocked ones over to the colonies?!

 

[EarlyMon]

One more Galaxy Nexus. "????????" ???????? ????????? - YouTube

Interesting size comparisons.