***Official Galaxy Nexus Pre-Release speculation thread**

[skater57]

Looks like the 18th is starting to pick up some steam.

It seems right if Verizon wants to change it up for the razr and go on and release it on a friday and the rezound on a Monday after all the years of Thursday releases then keep it on mondays and fridays (sorry if that made no sense my brain is like dead right now)

 

[IndecisiveElle]

Android Central just posted an article with the Notion Ink CEO saying the ICS source code would be released on the 17th... Bodes well for a Nexus release that day I think!

 

[The Xero]

This made me so incredibly happy, you have no idea. Well, actually, you probably do, knowing you lot
I really really want to believe this story.
The only problem is that if Verizon stores were already getting them in stock, wouldn't there be some sort of leak right now other than a second hand anecdote?

Friday's the 18th, though, so I don't know what's going on there.

We should see some info about the phone arriving tomorrow or tuesday if our 17th-21st is to be true.

 

[tdub88]

Sorry, I would have tried to read through this thread if it wasn't 75% off-topic BS. If it was cleaned up, I suspect the 558 pages would be decreased to 200. LOL.

Hey, just relax while you read through the 137 "Good morning, just checking in posts."

This thread has no off topic posts like the giant Incredible thread did or it would be huge!

 

[IndecisiveElle]

We should see some info about the phone arriving tomorrow or tuesday if our 17th-21st is to be true.

Yup I think so too. And every sign I am seeing is definitely pointing toward that window - Im hoping for the 17th though!

 

[Reborn58]

I just hope we hear something in the next few days so my mind can be at peace until I get the damn thing.

I nearly had a panic attack every day waiting for VZW to verify that they were definitely getting the GNex, and now I'm getting to that point waiting for a release date!! Arghhhh

 

[darkestred]

This made me so incredibly happy, you have no idea. Well, actually, you probably do, knowing you lot
I really really want to believe this story.
The only problem is that if Verizon stores were already getting them in stock, wouldn't there be some sort of leak right now other than a second hand anecdote?

Friday's the 18th, though, so I don't know what's going on there.

This coming friday or next friday? He says next friday. I always take that as the following friday. Would be cool if it was this week though.

 

[BabyBlues]

Hey, just relax while you read through the 137 "Good morning, just checking in posts."

This thread has no off topic posts like the giant Incredible thread did or it would be huge!

Exactly. The mods let us get only so far then they reel us back in. Sometimes we even manage to reel ourselves in. (that's kinda rare though)

 

[IndecisiveElle]

I just hope we hear something in the next few days so my mind can be at peace until I get the damn thing.

I nearly had a panic attack every day waiting for VZW to verify that they were definitely getting the GNex, and now I'm getting to that point waiting for a release date!! Arghhhh

Rescue a puppy.or two - great for the Gnex stress!

 

[jdduncan11]

We're making relationships that will last a lifetime...or at least until the next big phone release comes around...

This thread is like watching the Lord of the Rings (I know...dork), I could come back to it/watch it a thousand times and still NEED to come back for more

 

[CaptainRon]

He said I'd have to wait until next Friday to get that one.

Not to be a downer, but I'm never sure what "next" means.

If he said wait until Friday to get one that would mean the 18th. Is "next" Friday the 25th, Black Friday?

There's been a rumored Black Friday release date, but we've never seen an 18th date.

 

[Trent Reznor]

I may not know when the Gnex is dropping.... However, one thing I know for sure is that Cris Collinsworth is an idiot.

 

[Puppa]

Slightly off topic here, regarding the SD card (or lack of) Would there be any speed benefit of using internal storage for everything instead of sd card? Basically I'm wondering if a gain in performance would be the reason to leave out the sd card. People see benefits of different sd cards and different speed cards, so is internal storage faster than external?

Yes, performance could be a reason. Built-in cards are typically eMMC. Typically, these support hundreds to over a thousand Random Write IOPS (I/O operations per second). Typical SD cards, including Premium cards, on the other hand, have far lower Random Write IOPS numbers--in most cases, under 10.

On top of this, eMMC implementations often support higher data clock rates than external cards, which translates directly into better throughput. Typical values are 10 to 20 percent higher, in fact.

On top of all of the above, often the built-in eMMC is Class 6 or higher (measurement of speed), whereas the external SD card the carrier throws in for free is only class 2. Even if you put a class 10 card in yourself, however, in most cases it will still underperform the built-in speed.

IMHO, I'd prefer 32GB built in. I don't need the flexibility of popping cards in and out of my phone--I use the cloud for that data.

 

[jdduncan11]

Looks like the 18th is starting to pick up some steam.

I REALLY do think it is going to the 18th. One week after the Razr. Monday at the latest. The Black Friday date makes absolutely no sense to me.

 

[Steven58]

Exactly. The mods let us get only so far then they reel us back in. Sometimes we even manage to reel ourselves in. (that's kinda rare though)

Who will reel in those who reel in? Think about it.

 

[Reborn58]

Rescue a puppy.or two - great for the Gnex stress!

I have a crazy Pit already that I rescued. He keeps me as busy as any other 2 dogs could

 

[nbajam]

"Because most of the technology wasn't available, or they used superior technology that you don't recognize as such."

this line pretty much states it's as perfect of a phone as it could be. c'mon
I get the various excuses why the technology is arguably incrementally superior. (I do recognize it as such). But to make such a blanket statement, you know it can't be true. Not every piece of technology on any phone could ever be either the best available or superior.

also, it's not about what I recognize or what you recognize. as you say what the average consumer will recognize is anyone's guess. well there's nothing much else on topic to discuss in this thread, besides football games and names for your phone, so let's guess at it. let's discuss it. it's fun and it pertains to the phone, the only thing we do know about it, which is the specs.

even you have admitted in your post that it should be 1.5 for example. And saying it doesn't have SD take it or leave it, well, that's not acknowledging a basic design limitation.

The average consumer doesn't care that this phone has an OMAP 4460 and the RAZR has an OMAP 4430. They care how it performs when they play with it in the store.

As for the SD card, it's not a design limitation in Google's eyes, just like it isn't a design limitation in Apple's eyes either. If it is for you, that's a personal decision.

Watching the Pats vs Jets.... Really getting sick of the onslaught of Razr and Rezound commercials

I'm really getting sick of Android commercials that don't focus on the phone in any way. The OG was a huge marketing success in part because of the iDon't campaign. They need to focus on things that Android phones can do that iPhones can't. There should be plenty of material there to go around. Not more robots.

 

[BabyBlues]

Who will reel in those who reel in? Think about it.

I do think that every once in a while.

I have a crazy Pit already that I rescued. He keeps me as busy as any other 2 dogs could

One of my favorite breeds! Right up tree with Rottweiler , labs and shepherds (I love most dogs though, except the yappy ones)

 

[IndecisiveElle]

I have a crazy Pit already that I rescued. He keeps me as busy as any other 2 dogs could

Awesome! I had an American bulldog.mix - she was a huge ball of terrier energy. I bet our fella keeps you pretty busy too. The new little girls have started to settle in so they are sleeping a lot and giving me lots of forum time

MJordan - stop.lurking!

 

[mistermojorizi]

The average consumer doesn't care that this phone has an OMAP 4460 and the RAZR has an OMAP 4430. They care how it performs when they play with it in the store.

As for the SD card, it's not a design limitation in Google's eyes, just like it isn't a design limitation in Apple's eyes either. If it is for you, that's a personal decision.



I'm really getting sick of Android commercials that don't focus on the phone in any way. The OG was a huge marketing success in part because of the iDon't campaign. They need to focus on things that Android phones can do that iPhones can't. There should be plenty of material there to go around. Not more robots.

4460 vs 4430 they won't know. 5mp vs 8mp, how this discussion started, they probably will. 1.2ghz vs 1.5ghz they may.

as for SD slot, how do you know they don't view it as a limitation? maybe they do but it's a compromise they were willing to make?

 

[TheRoosevelt]

Who will reel in those who reel in? Think about it.

Who watches the Watchmen?

 

[EarlyMon]

Who will reel in those who reel in? Think about it.

Hi, Phases!

 

[nj02vette]

"Because most of the technology wasn't available, or they used superior technology that you don't recognize as such."

this line pretty much states it's as perfect of a phone as it could be. c'mon
I get the various excuses why the technology is arguably incrementally superior. (I do recognize it as such). But to make such a blanket statement, you know it can't be true. Not every piece of technology on any phone could ever be either the best available or superior.

also, it's not about what I recognize or what you recognize. as you say what the average consumer will recognize is anyone's guess. well there's nothing much else on topic to discuss in this thread, besides football games and names for your phone, so let's guess at it. let's discuss it. it's fun and it pertains to the phone, the only thing we do know about it, which is the specs.

even you have admitted in your post that it should be 1.5 for example. And saying it doesn't have SD take it or leave it, well, that's not acknowledging a basic design limitation.

Please re-read the context of my post. The technology wasn't available when they started designing the phone. They couldn't go down and pick from the local parts bin for 1.5GHz dual core parts. They had to make selections early on in the design cycle, and then live with the results. For whatever reason, 1.2GHz was the result.

By your rational, why didn't they put quad core SOCs in them? Or run 3GHz. I'm not trying to be blunt, but you don't seem to have the concept of product design. Companies have roadmaps and marketing departments and engineering teams that discuss the future of products. They determine the features necessary, feasiblity of them being available in the timeframe, and where the competition is. Engineering is all about compromises. A Core i7 would make a pretty fast phone, for all of 1min of battery life.

I stated that I was disappointed it wasn't 1.5GHz, but I also stated that I believe they underclocked it for a reason.

As for the "average" consumer, you're going to have to admit, the average consumer doesn't look at specs and obsess over them like we do. You comment about the SD card is pointless, because 90%+ of smartphone users don't even know they have a removable card. Witness the number of iPhone users, who just plain don't care about removable storage. The SD card was never a design limitation (obviously), but is Google's choice. This is Google's phone, and you get all the good and bad that comes with it. Arguing about it now does nothing. You either live with that, or you chose another phone that meets your needs better. There were many people here in the earlier days of the thread that were regular posters that felt the GNex wasn't for them, so they moved on. No SD card was a deal breaker for them, just as the non-removable battery killed the RAZR for others.

Sure, I'd prefer if this had a 1.5GHz 4460, 8MP camera, and non-pentile display. But I'd also prefer if this had quad core 2.0GHz, 12MP camera and quad HD display, along with a battery that lasted two weeks.

I understand your argument, but it seems like you are just trying to get justification why it doesn't top every spec in a chart. The Nexus devices have never been about the latest hardware. It's hard for them to be, when as I mentioned serve dual purposes. It is a development platform for ICS, and it certainly is competitive with all current phones. Seems to be performing quite well in benchmarks (non-quadrant). Even though the hardware may not be reflected in spec sheets, performance relative to recently released phones is quite comptitive, or even better. But ICS is really the star attraction here. So much so, that some have stated they can't recommend a phone without ICS.

 

[OfTheDamned]

if that is the case, then that make sense. although if its just for pure google experience that could be done on very low spec hardware as well. but yet they chose to use pretty high end specs as it is evident to us. I was operating under the assumption that they were doing this to make money. in which case they need to hit the average consumer, and hard, with so much competition.

Sorry for the lateness of my reply, I was getting the kids in bed.

Low end specs? They could have and they couldn't have used them. Seeing as it is Google's phone more or less they could have used any hardware they wanted to, but then the OS couldn't have been what it is. You won't see many two year old phones getting a full ICS treatment. They won't be able to support it properly. I think you will find that the specs were chosen more to compliment the OS than anything else. Sure the specs match up to what is available now, but that is more or less because Google wanted the OS to work really well with what is available now. I think ICS is Google's way of trying to get rid of the custom UIs while at the same time forcing manufacturers to use better hardware. I don't think we'll be seeing any 800 mHz phones with ICS on them.

ICS is what is really special in the end. Technology will always improve and hardware will always be changing, but the big deal about a Nexus is the OS. It is pure Google and their vision, but for consumers it is about being first. When you get a Nexus you get the new OS before anyone else and without anyone messing it up with extras or bloat. This is the consumer selling point and the reason that, for many, there is no competition. This is something that you can't purchase any other way. It is the reason that fans camped out to see Star Wars Episode 1 or teenage girls waited at midnight to see Twilight. It is the reason that Apple fans stand in line in the pouring rain or blazing heat to get the latest and greatest. For many this is the chance to be the first to get their hands on the future of Android.

As far as money goes, they don't make these things just for the sake of making them. They do make them to sell them, but I can't see profit from a Nexus phone really getting Google all that excited. Android, Google and money is kind of an odd thing. Google doesn't really make much money, by comparison, with Android. Google makes money off of advertising. The majority of Google's offerings to the public don't cost the user a dime. The people that pay for all of these projects and innovations are the people that advertise on Google's search network. Android isn't Google's bread and butter the way that iOS has turned into Apple's.

 

[jdduncan11]

Who watches the Watchmen?

Great movie by the way