Mint Replaces Ubuntu as Top OS in distrowatch

[richphitzwell]

Ya my comment was in regards to the GUI comment.

 

[richphitzwell]

Ive never had good luck with fedora. It really isbeta for redhat

 

[9to5cynic]

Yeah, I forget the exact version I installed, but it was one with Gnome3, something that I thought looked slick, and would work great on a tablet, but it ate up too much of my precious screen space (netbook). I didn't have any real issues with it besides that, I don't think it came with gcc though, and I prefer apt to yum (but that's just preference).

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So here's my plan, backup all my junk to a HD, then format everything. Partition up for two OS (arch and LM) and one for home. I'm really excited to see what's new with LM12 (not sure if I should get the classic one or debian based..?). And arch will probably kick my ass but it'll be fun.

 

[karandpr]

@9to5cynic
There was no Ubuntu with GNOME 3!!!! .It's unity only .Ubuntu 10.10 (I remember it since it was the last version of shipit. ) had GNOME 2.32 and Ubuntu Netbook had unity .
The control buttons on left was on 10.04

The first GNOME 3 nix were either Fedora 15 or Opensuse (cant remember but I had alpha/broken versions of both !!!! )

LM12 is heavily modified GNOME 3 .You can enjoy stock GNOME 3 or MGSE on top of GNOME 3 for the earlier functionality .

 

[9to5cynic]

@9to5cynic
There was no Ubuntu with GNOME 3!!!! .It's unity only .Ubuntu 10.10 (I remember it since it was the last version of shipit. ) had GNOME 2.32 and Ubuntu Netbook had unity .
The control buttons on left was on 10.04

The first GNOME 3 nix were either Fedora 15 or Opensuse (cant remember but I had alpha/broken versions of both !!!! )

LM12 is heavily modified GNOME 3 .You can enjoy stock GNOME 3 or MGSE on top of GNOME 3 for the earlier functionality .

Yeah, we were talking about fedora (in regards to gnome3).

So LM12 has gnome 3? Hmm... not sure how I feel about that. Maybe a live session before I jump in with the install...?
Or, I suppose, I could just replace gnome3 with gnome 2..? Hmm so many options.

 

[karandpr]

@9to5cynic
GNOME 2.32 and GNOME 3 have compatibility issues .
Mint also uses MATE which is a fork of 2.32 .
http://androidforums.com/3437503-post3.html If you havent read it already

 

[zuben el genub]

Unity doesn't look like my SGS4G. It does have a bar at the top that STAYS there and permanent icons on the bottom.
Also you can just reinstall Ubuntu if you mess up. There is no one telling you you don't have a legitimate copy or playing "mother may I" with MS.

 

[richphitzwell]

karand,
im fairly positive that one of the offshoots of ubuntu has gnome, im not going to bother looking

 

[9to5cynic]

@9to5cynic
GNOME 2.32 and GNOME 3 have compatibility issues .
Mint also uses MATE which is a fork of 2.32 .
http://androidforums.com/3437503-post3.html If you havent read it already

Cool, I downloaded the LM12 and the LMdebian (latest) today. Though I don't think the debian one was for '12 yet...

I hope to be trying them out soon (feeling a bit ill today so not tonight).

 

[karandpr]

@richphitzwell
Well Ubuntu has GNOME desktop environment but not GNOME shell .
Technically all Ubuntu's have fallback mode which reverts to good ol GNOME .
Unity is just a shell on top of GNOME
Unity is like Windows blinds .Another interface

 

[richphitzwell]

Kar I am onmy phone but the newest version doesnt seem to have gnome in any way we would think of gnome available

 

[richphitzwell]

In past versions we couldrevert back from unity but that seems to no longer be the case

 

[karandpr]

@richphitzwell
You can install the fall back mode
check this out

Return to Ubuntu Classic Desktop in Ubuntu 11.10 | Liberian Geek

 

[richphitzwell]

K firstoff thanks good info but you are missing my point slightly. We can modify anydistro however wewant but I have to deal with clients that dont know jack and Ubuntu was the one we could fall back on. In win we could simply move the taskbar to any side of the screen we wanted towithno issue or code but with unity its fixed to the left whichcovers the minmax qnd closebuttons. Withmaking it permanently placedon theleft Ubuntu has made it difficult to change noobsover

 

[karandpr]

@richphitzwell
well rich we are way off the topic arent we .

The reason Ubuntu has been displaced is Linux Mint is doing what Ubuntu should have .Offering options to those who dont want to modify easily .I would suggest giving mint a spin .

Well the Debian based Rolling Linux Mint still has the older GNOME

and Mint 12 is looking to make GNOME 3 workable enough

 

[richphitzwell]

I absolutely agree with you k. Both u and mint are entry and u has droppped the ball

 

[alostpacket]

Im having serious trouble installing Mint

It seems it does not want to see any drives on the raid controller as available to instal

even though the bios sees them...

 

[karandpr]

@alostpacket

Try this method
dont install mint
boot in live session of mint
install kpartx

sudo apt-get install kpartx

now install mint and try again

From what i read gparted cant recognize RAID .
so the fix .
I will also suggest creating a separate boot partition for grub2 installation to avoid any bootloader errors

 

[alostpacket]

i actually finally fixed it -- apparently it's a bug in the ubiquity installer. I switched the drives to SATA mode from the bios. Gparted actually saw them fine just the installer didn't. All is well now though thanks

Now trying to learn some tricks for keeping Movie cover art saved in XBMC

 

[baillou2]

I could never get into Mint for one reason or another. I honestly don't see how it's prettier or easier than Ubuntu.
And I still HATE gnome3. Though I am excited about Mate. I hope it takes off and gets better.
In the meantime I'm quite happy with Unity. It's not perfect, but I still find it miles ahead of gnome3. Unity can use Compiz, it's smoother and more consistent graphically, and BEST OF ALL it doesn't look like the setup menu on a playstation video game. No matter what theme I use gnome3 looks cartoonish and fugly. Unity (with Ubuntu) at least keeps that nice slick gnome2 aesthetic.

Also I always have repo/update issues with every version of Mint I use.

Personally I think that PinguyOS is a much better alternative to Ubuntu. PinguyOS is to Mint as Mint is to Ubuntu.

 

[SUroot]

I could never get into Mint for one reason or another. I honestly don't see how it's prettier or easier than Ubuntu.
And I still HATE gnome3. Though I am excited about Mate. I hope it takes off and gets better.
In the meantime I'm quite happy with Unity. It's not perfect, but I still find it miles ahead of gnome3. Unity can use Compiz, it's smoother and more consistent graphically, and BEST OF ALL it doesn't look like the setup menu on a playstation video game. No matter what theme I use gnome3 looks cartoonish and fugly. Unity (with Ubuntu) at least keeps that nice slick gnome2 aesthetic.

Also I always have repo/update issues with every version of Mint I use.

Personally I think that PinguyOS is a much better alternative to Ubuntu. PinguyOS is to Mint as Mint is to Ubuntu.

I still use unity too. I have it set up with the compiz desktop cube. I do use gnome tweak tool to switch between gtk themes. There aren't many though. Im using "atolm" with the ambiance window theme (cant beat ambiance window theme IMHO)

 

[baillou2]

I still use unity too. I have it set up with the compiz desktop cube. I do use gnome tweak tool to switch between gtk themes. There aren't many though. Im using "atolm" with the ambiance window theme (cant beat ambiance window theme IMHO)

Yeah ambiance is the best. An they have it now for gnome3 but it still doesn't look right. Something about how it's rendered... or something. It just looks cartoonish on gnome3.

 

[SUroot]

Yeah ambiance is the best. An they have it now for gnome3 but it still doesn't look right. Something about how it's rendered... or something. It just looks cartoonish on gnome3.

Yep. It's subjective for sure, but this is beautiful..

http://androidforums.com/3730119-post123.html

 

[Remeniz]

Can I install Mint from a USB stick in a dual boot config' with Windows 7?

 

[SUroot]

you can make any linux distro bootable as an iso from usb stick. Google YUMI or Pen-drive linux