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*** Official Samsung Fascinate Gingerbread 2.3 Speculation Thread ***

I was on with tech support for the many issues I have with my phone and they told me it was out and not to download it if I get the notification for it. I just got the phone on Friday and it came with 2.2.1 which she said to keep for now. The 2.3, I was told has caused many issues and that if or when I get the update to avoid it until a second comes(supposedly in a couple weeks) then download the first and follow with the second that is more stable. This is just what I was so cant be certain since they have lied to me several times in the last week.

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It's out but don't download it? VRZ wouldn't push it out if it's causing more problems than it is fixing.
 
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It's out but don't download it? VRZ wouldn't push it out if it's causing more problems than it is fixing.

Yeah, if there's one thing Verizon is notorious for, it's OVER testing, not under testing. Although any major update is bound to cause problems. One of the drawbacks of having a fairly open OS with multiple apps that have different levels of permissions and system access, all while interacting with Verizon bloat and the normal android stuff (and TouchWiz) is that there are bound to be issues with major updates on a good amount of handsets. Updates are slightly more regulated and controlled within Apple's ecosystem, which is one of their advantages. Like most of the folks here, I choose the customizability over the ease and convenience of a tightly controlled ecosystem, but I also accept the cost, for the most part. The crap manufacturers and especially carriers add to the mess makes it a LOT worse than it needs to be.

Honestly, though, 2.2 is quite good, and doesn't need much "fixing". I have ran Gingerbread and don't find it quite as significant of a jump as going from 2.2 to 2.3. 1.6 to 2.1 was substantial. 2.1 to 2.2 was also substantial (flash, apps to SD card, multiple google account support - even calendars, much better event/contact creation, and a lot more). 2.2 to 2.3 adds some good stuff for sure, but nothing I actually NEEDED. I really really wanted flash, and I actually truly needed multiple google account integration without using a 3rd party app. And with a Fascinate, unlocking the SD card to more apps will be very useful when that relatively small 2GB fills up. In addition, there is a substantial list of apps that work better (or possibly even only) with 2.2 than 2.1. In comparison, I know of only a couple that really "need" 2.3 to work properly, despite 2.3 being released on a lot of new handsets.

2.2 got a LOT of excellent market saturation, and thus has a huge developer and support backing. But there are some advantages to 2.3 not being quite as drastic of a change - more stuff will make the transition easier.

Regardless, I am just happy VZ and Sammy are continuing to support this phone. I realize there were a lot of upset folks because of the delay to get 2.2, and rightly so, but the support has been there. Samsung even released 2.2's legit source code to the developer community, from which we have seen some absolutely sensational ROMs, such as the Community ROM. I expect them to release 2.3's source code as well. Samsung is lately redeeming their lateness with me by still being one of the most dev friendly manufacturers out there. Even HTC has some tightly locked bootloaders now. HTC, Samsung, and Motorola are the worldwide android giants, and out of all of them, timelines and TW aside, Samsung has definitely been overall the most dev friendly.

I can't wait to see what the devs do with 2.3 source code! That is gonna be a party day for rooted Fascinate owners. HECK YEAH!! :D
 
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It's out but don't download it? VRZ wouldn't push it out if it's causing more problems than it is fixing.

As I said in the original post, its what the tech support told me. I haven't seen it or had it pushed on my phone. I have even searched for updates manually after we had talked and nothing came up. Just relaying what they told me as of last night.
 
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Sammy doesn't care about customers. All they care about is $$$$$. I honestly feel like Samsung relies on people to put out ROMS to take care of their current buyers. Their to busy making ANOTHER phone rather then concentrate on the ones that are out. Captivate, Vibrant, Epic, Infuse and Charge are all waiting on gingerbread. Galaxy S2 users are going to be complaining when ice cream comes out and yet 7 months into it they still don't have it for their device. That's the problem when you release 10+ phones out a year.
 
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Good news indeed. Thanks! I am just perplexed by one thing. Why is Samsung not using their excellent new 8MP camera found on the SGSII and Charge in the new Galaxy Nexus? I know that 5MP from 8 is not necessarily a "downgrade" persay, but the 8MP actually provides a substantial amount of real, usable photographic data in your files, not to mention that from a marketing aspect it looks much better on paper to the consumer. Why would they use a 5MP rear camera? That's unexpected, and makes zero sense for a phone with specs off the charts for everything else.

Well the 5mp is very good IMHO and bigger mxpls dont make a better cam for an example watch the Nokia Lumia pt 2 review on phonedog.com !!
 
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The BEST thing I noticed so far is that stupid 'battery fully charged' pop-up and notification sound is GONE! Finally.

The graphics are nicer, the speed is faster (clocked 1,347 on quadrant). Hopefully the GB update helps the battery life too. And I **think** it has the ICS keyboard too (at least it's the same one as the ICS beta in the market).

So far I am liking it.
 
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The BEST thing I noticed so far is that stupid 'battery fully charged' pop-up and notification sound is GONE! Finally.

The graphics are nicer, the speed is faster (clocked 1,347 on quadrant). Hopefully the GB update helps the battery life too. And I **think** it has the ICS keyboard too (at least it's the same one as the ICS beta in the market).

So far I am liking it.

I was just thinking of wiping my phone clean I am an app junkie. It lost it whiz and could take up to a minute sometimes to exit an app and have my home page come up. I would just stare at a background. Seems much faster with no delay. I probably still should clean up my running apps.
 
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They have removed the GPS on/off indicator from the top of the screen which is a minor pain because you cannot tell at a glance whether you have your GPS on or not. You will need to pull down the top drawer and check whether you have it on from there.

Thanks for warning me of this- however I think that would be okay with me. I'm really picky with the UI of my phone and computers!

I'm updating right now. Can't wait for it to finish.
 
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