my eris is lagging..bad

[lemmon13]

ok so my driod eris is going very slow..i mean slow it freezes while texting and opening stuff up..i do have a bunch of text messages on there which i am trying to delete slowly with SMS quick delete(i have only dont my small treads but i still have some in the thousands) but im not sure this is the case because it has always lagged at bit. i have 82mb free space.

 

[AdrianC14]

Go to Settings > Applications > Manage applications > menu > sort by size. Click on the Apps and clear the cache. I do this about every 2 days.

For some reason, my Droid Eris suffered MASSIVE lag this morning, everything was hella slow.

 

[textstev]

Try a reboot and use TasKiller to kill everything but:

HTC Sense
Music
Calendar
Gmail
Mail

Voice
Swype

The last 2 are optional, swype will improve the speed of the keyboard soooo much and google voice is amazing. The other things will restart themselves eventually anyway and will actually then take up MORE RAM. So just ignore them and ignore hidden imo, and they will actually run on very low ram in the background.

At boot-up TasKiller should display 58M RAM. Kill everything by taping the big button. Open tasKiller again, and kill TasKiller itself by tapping on it (comfirm the first time). Should be around 81M RAM. Now make sure all your widgets are loaded (I Have the Today in History widget which takes like 45s to load and about 8M in RAM away). Go back into TasKiller, and it should be 73M RAM. Kill TasKiller.

Rinse and repeat.

With TasKiller and Swype, your phone will be Nexus One responsive.

 

[lemmon13]

I'm sorry i don't understand but what is swipe because if it make my keybord faster then that's my cure. The rest of the lag I can deal with but it's so bad on my keybord while texting espically if I am texting multiple people which I do often. Thanks!

 

[lemmon13]

Go to Settings > Applications > Manage applications > menu > sort by size. Click on the Apps and clear the cache. I do this about every 2 days.

For some reason, my Droid Eris suffered MASSIVE lag this morning, everything was hella slow.

Mine was sooo slow this mourning with everything. Glad to know it's not just me! Lol

 

[flspnr]

With TasKiller and Swype, your phone will be Nexus One responsive.

Actually, TasKiller (any task killer app, tried a few) slowed my phone down incredibly. After a hard reset, I didn't reinstall any task killer apps and three weeks later my phone is running fantastic with very little lag (mainly in the end call button and once in a long while elsewhere).

To OP: Clear your caches (someone mentioned above how), delete all unnecessary texts or other information stored on your phone (anything on your SD card, like music, will be fine, you don't need to clear that off), and restart your phone. You should be good to go after this. Also, remember that you should clear your caches at least every few days, and if you're using the stock browser, you might want to clear that one a little bit more often - it doesn't give you an option to clear on exit like the Dolphin Browser does, and it gets big fast. Keep in mind also that it's not the amount of apps that you have, it's the size! I know you mentioned you didn't have many apps, but sometimes the sizes can surprise you. I've got a widget called "Internal Memory Widget" that's free, I keep it on my main home page, and I keep an eye on it. If I haven't downloaded any apps and it's gotten more than a couple MB bigger than it usually is, then I know it's time to clear out texts and caches.

 

[smacky]

I usually dont clear the cache of a program unless it's in the megabytes. I don't think a few kbs would hurt. Go for your browser, messages, and albums first.

 

[lemmon13]

Thanks for all the replies..I'm currently deleting all my texts via SMS quick delete so I can't try the other stuff until tomorrow. I cleared my cache today for the first time sine u got my phone. Two months from the day acutally. Seeing you all recomend it quite often that may have been a problem too.

 

[carmendiva]

idk if someone mentioned it but delete cache of market as well
that has a lot of cache

 

[pkopalek]

I am having a hard time with this cache thing.

The purpose of cache is to speed things up, not slow them down.

A Browser's cache, for example, may store portions of web pages, including images, of websites that you visit, so that when you re-visit them, you no longer have to download the images. They are much faster to load directly from the Cache on your phone.

I think that the concept of deleting Cache to speed up your phone is on the basis that the cache is using lots of the "ROM" Memory.

I'm not buying that clearing cache speeds anything up.

I think this user has a couple of Apps installed that run in the background (right from startup) and hog resources.

I'd like to see the OP's list of installed applications.

 

[jdailey1981]

I don't use task killers they use more battery than they save. I also clear cache and history. These to hold lots in info and having to dig through it all can cause lag.

 

[textstev]

I am having a hard time with this cache thing.

The purpose of cache is to speed things up, not slow them down.

A Browser's cache, for example, may store portions of web pages, including images, of websites that you visit, so that when you re-visit them, you no longer have to download the images. They are much faster to load directly from the Cache on your phone.

I think that the concept of deleting Cache to speed up your phone is on the basis that the cache is using lots of the "ROM" Memory.

I'm not buying that clearing cache speeds anything up.

I think this user has a couple of Apps installed that run in the background (right from startup) and hog resources.

I'd like to see the OP's list of installed applications.

Thank you, exactly my thoughts. One thing though is that the cache uses the system internal memory, which is fairly big anyway, and shouldn't cause problems unless you have like (literally) 100 apps...

And I don't buy deleting text messages speed up the phone either. I had over 4,000+ text messages and deleted them to see if it would speed it up as I use Google Voice and they're all saved online anyway (but had them forwarding to my real number because I wanted them to show up in the People Messaging Tab). Didn't notice a speed difference, but I did have to only delete like 5 conversation at a time, otherwise it would force close & crash after taking forever. Guess just too much data, but I guess the fastest way to just open the Application Manager in settings and clear the data in Messages anyway, lol.

Don't really like downloading apps for things the phone does already perfectly (like ringtone trimmers on eris, lol)

 

[pkopalek]

Thank you, exactly my thoughts. One thing though is that the cache uses the system internal memory, which is fairly big anyway, and shouldn't cause problems unless you have like (literally) 100 apps...

And I don't buy deleting text messages speed up the phone either. I had over 4,000+ text messages and deleted them to see if it would speed it up as I use Google Voice and they're all saved online anyway (but had them forwarding to my real number because I wanted them to show up in the People Messaging Tab). Didn't notice a speed difference, but I did have to only delete like 5 conversation at a time, otherwise it would force close & crash after taking forever. Guess just too much data, but I guess the fastest way to just open the Application Manager in settings and clear the data in Messages anyway, lol.

Don't really like downloading apps for things the phone does already perfectly (like ringtone trimmers on eris, lol)

I use SMS Backup & Restore. Every time I have a few thousand, I hit 'Backup', then I 'Delete'. It takes a while just like it does to do it manually, but it always gets the job done. It also will report the success rate. It will say messages: 540, Failed: 0 Deleted: 540

 

[flspnr]

I am having a hard time with this cache thing.

The purpose of cache is to speed things up, not slow them down.

A Browser's cache, for example, may store portions of web pages, including images, of websites that you visit, so that when you re-visit them, you no longer have to download the images. They are much faster to load directly from the Cache on your phone.

I think that the concept of deleting Cache to speed up your phone is on the basis that the cache is using lots of the "ROM" Memory.

I'm not buying that clearing cache speeds anything up.

I think this user has a couple of Apps installed that run in the background (right from startup) and hog resources.

I'd like to see the OP's list of installed applications.

I like to keep my cache cleared personally, but I also use dolphin browser, and have it set to put the cache on my sd card instead of my internal memory. That's one option if you want to keep your cache but not have it take up internal memory.

 

[flspnr]

I'm sorry i don't understand but what is swipe because if it make my keybord faster then that's my cure. The rest of the lag I can deal with but it's so bad on my keybord while texting espically if I am texting multiple people which I do often. Thanks!

It's a keyboard replacement that's technically not available on the Eris yet. Check out the thread"Swype available for the Eris", should be on the front page (sorry can't link, typing from cellphone using Swype now). It's easy to install, but does take some getting used to. Look in that thread, there's a link to the lite version which I think is the best one so I'd recommend giving that one a try.

 

[pkopalek]

I like to keep my cache cleared personally, but I also use dolphin browser, and have it set to put the cache on my sd card instead of my internal memory. That's one option if you want to keep your cache but not have it take up internal memory.

Right, but the internal memory used is what documentation calls (wrongly) the ROM memory, which holds the applications and operating system. Not RAM, which is the operating memory.

The point is that, unless you have that ROM almost all the way filled up (100+ apps, for example), your phone's performance won't much be affected by this memory. If texts and cache occupied some of the RAM instead, I would agree that clearing cache and texts would speed up the phone. Clearing cache should make your browser, albums, and other things slower, in fact. Clearing texts might make your Messaging app (I know this is true for Handcent) perform faster. When I open a Handcent thread, for example, all of the 231 messages (or however many) in that thread open all at once. It's how I have it set up. This, however, makes it much slower to load each thread.

If Handcent stored the visible message thread in the cache, instead of reading from your internal Messages and rendering the thread every time, from scratch, Handcent would perform more quickly, not less. Clearing this cache would force it to re-load the thread again. Which is slower, until the cache fills back up.

 

[flspnr]

Right, but the internal memory used is what documentation calls (wrongly) the ROM memory, which holds the applications and operating system. Not RAM, which is the operating memory.

The point is that, unless you have that ROM almost all the way filled up (100+ apps, for example), your phone's performance won't much be affected by this memory. If texts and cache occupied some of the RAM instead, I would agree that clearing cache and texts would speed up the phone. Clearing cache should make your browser, albums, and other things slower, in fact. Clearing texts might make your Messaging app (I know this is true for Handcent) perform faster. When I open a Handcent thread, for example, all of the 231 messages (or however many) in that thread open all at once. It's how I have it set up. This, however, makes it much slower to load each thread.

If Handcent stored the visible message thread in the cache, instead of reading from your internal Messages and rendering the thread every time, from scratch, Handcent would perform more quickly, not less. Clearing this cache would force it to re-load the thread again. Which is slower, until the cache fills back up.

I had no idea there was two different types of memory (RAM and ROM), but what you've said makes sense. I'm using the stock messaging app right now, so if I stop clearing my cache, that will load faster? I don't tend to keep old texts, unless they're important, so I probably don't have such a slow time opening them just because they're small. But what you're saying is if I stop my OCD about clearing them out and they build up, not clearing the cache will let them load faster than clearing it? What happens when I have the message cache and the browser cache and the email cache etc. etc. all built up? Is there ever a point where it would help to clear it, like a finite amount of space I'm getting to close to, or is it imaginary storage that I shouldn't ever have to clear? I do notice on my internal memory widget that a few MB open up when I clear all my caches, I'm not anywhere near to full memory nor do I have much lag at all, but I do worry that those MBs will add up and fill my internal memory (one reason I have the browser set to save the cache on the SD card, especially since I've hard so fat that I should keep the cache clear to avoid filing the internal memory). Thanks for explaining, sorry for so many question the more I learn the more questions I have! And reasons for loving this forum.

 

[Ryobi]

My own personal opinion and preference is to use a task killer. If used correctly, a task killer will free up memory and eliminate lag.

In my own experience, when memory gets to the threshold, that's when the lag occurs. You may notice when you open certain apps, other apps open too, for no apparent reason. For the most part leaving apps open probably won't drain your battery, but they do use extra memory. The Eris has a very limited amount of memory and android does not allow you to put apps on the sd card. That's problem number one

By allowing these apps to stay open, eventually your memory will continue to drop to a point where the lag starts to happen. Using a task killer to shut these apps down will free up memory and reduce lag. I have noticed no battery drain from using a task killer.

IMO, android does a crappy job of managing apps and system memory. Problem number two.

That is my own personal opinion and experience. Take it or leave it.

 

[soulfetcher13]

Cookies are what allow the browser to load pages/images quickly. Cache is data storing on your phone, slowing it down. Clear all the cache when you can is my recommendation, twice a week at least, or at the first sign of lagging. You do the same on your computer don't you? Phone is no different.

 

[Ryobi]

Cookies are what allow the browser to load pages/images quickly. Cache is data storing on your phone, slowing it down. Clear all the cache when you can is my recommendation, twice a week at least, or at the first sign of lagging. You do the same on your computer don't you? Phone is no different.

No I don't. Looks like you're from Tennessee too. Are you friends with the guy who posted in the other thread task killers will destroy your phone? You gotta be at least neighbors.

 

[cannonfodder]

Cookies are what allow the browser to load pages/images quickly..

Um, no. That would be cache. Cookies have nothing to do with page load times.

 

[Houstatlanavegas]

has anyone have it where the their android turns off and doesnt connect to the network after they turned it back on?

just wondering cause i deal with this issue alot and im tired seriously considering paying full price for the incredible....

 

[Houstatlanavegas]

ok i havent had it installed on my phone yet but reading the other forums they say that swype is the best new thing especially for us Eris users i suggest everyone try to get it an use it well...
happy happy typing