Just letting everyone know if you get a refurb inspect the hell out of it. i just got mine and i opened it to see 2 big dents on the face and a wierd imperfection in the glass. luckily i got somone in customer service that understood that i was less than impressed and they are shipping me another one.Idiots, like im going to ship them back mine that looks brand new for one that got hit by a train!