Help 2g? Quadband?

[thesloth]

what kind of gsm support does the Telus Milestone have?

I'll be using it primarily on AT&T 3g, but I want to make sure 2g is ok as well...

-what kind of freqs is 2g support?
-will it work if i study abroad in europe (obviously replace the sim card)

thanks

 

[Szadzik]

what kind of gsm support does the Telus Milestone have?

I'll be using it primarily on AT&T 3g, but I want to make sure 2g is ok as well...

-what kind of freqs is 2g support?
-will it work if i study abroad in europe (obviously replace the sim card)

thanks

So difficult to check?

Motorola MILESTONE - Full phone specifications

 

[thesloth]

well considering there are conflicting accounts:

Milestone Android - Social Networking Phone - Motorola Canada

maybe a little hospitality would be nice

 

[Szadzik]

well considering there are conflicting accounts:

Milestone Android - Social Networking Phone - Motorola Canada

maybe a little hospitality would be nice

It says:

GSM w/HSDPA, GSM 850/1900 which means exactly the same thing as in GSMArena from my link.

I understand your concerns, but really searching and checking resources before asking questions is a very good thing.

 

[thesloth]

Apologies,

I obviously don't know much about cell-bands and the like, and likewise had no way to know that "GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900" == "GSM w/ HSDPA." (a quick wikipedia search for "HSDPA" mentions primarily 3g and has little mention of freq bands)

in fact, that was only one example of a conflicting source I've found, as i've spent the past few days constantly doing research on this phone (i do enjoy nerding out as much as the next guy). I've seen quite a bit of varying information on this phone, and likewise was brought here.

all i ask, don't assume people who come here to ask questions haven't spent time searching for answers already. the best way i think to gain competent knowledge on a subject is by interacting with other knowledgeable people, hence my post.

that being said, i assume this means that the phone will travel well around europe?

(ps i'm not trying to start a war or anything. i hope this post didn't come across as harsh. just lookin for help afterall)

 

[Szadzik]

that being said, i assume this means that the phone will travel well around europe?

This phone is being sold in Europe and no one has ever complained about not being able to use it as it is the Europe-oriented version of the Droid.

 

[thesloth]

from what i've been led to believe...
Telus Milestone = canadian, north american version != european version

...hence the questions.

 

[Szadzik]

from what i've been led to believe...
Telus Milestone = canadian, north american version != european version

...hence the questions.

Milestone is Milestone and it is the same in Canada and in Europe. DROID is the Northern American version and it is different than the Milestone:

Canadian Milestone:
Milestone Android - Social Networking Phone - Motorola Canada

European Milestone:
Milestone Android - Phone Without Compromise - Motorola United Kingdom

Droid:
DROID by Motorola - Android phone - Motorola USA

See the difference now? Milestone sold in Europe is the same Milestone sold in Canada even though specs are put in a different way they say the same thing. Milestone sold in Canada will work ok in Europe as well as European Mileston will work fine in Canada.

They also sell Milestone in Southern America and I have that version of Milestone working perfectly fine in Europe.

 

[thesloth]

See the difference now? Milestone sold in Europe is the same Milestone sold in Canada even though specs are put in a different way they say the same thing. Milestone sold in Canada will work ok in Europe as well as European Mileston will work fine in Canada.

there are some people in here that will probably disagree with you:
http://androidforums.com/motorola-milestone/25020-milestone-3g-us.html

however, it looks like for the purposes of this thread they are the same, as their 2g bands don't seem to differ. but it should be noted for anyone that runs into this thread, that they are definitely not the same.

 

[Szadzik]

there are some people in here that will probably disagree with you:
http://androidforums.com/motorola-milestone/25020-milestone-3g-us.html

however, it looks like for the purposes of this thread they are the same, as their 2g bands don't seem to differ. but it should be noted for anyone that runs into this thread, that they are definitely not the same.

You asked about travelling with it in Europe and NOT about its 3G.

It will work in Europe because it is quadband GSM. You will get GSM and EDGE in Europe but no 3G.

 

[thesloth]

yes that was i was asking. I was just making a note for anyone who is in a similar situation as me that the below quotes are not true and could end up costing someone some money.

Milestone is Milestone and it is the same in Canada and in Europe.

See the difference now? Milestone sold in Europe is the same Milestone sold in Canada even though specs are put in a different way they say the same thing.

 

[Deleted User]

To both your points (not taking sides).

The original question was vague and made no direct attempt to ask if 3G data is supported in Europe on a Canadian Milestone.
The answer is no 3G support in Europe with a Canadian Milestone, but voice will work because it's a quad band phone and you must have international roaming with your SIM card or use a pre-paid European SIM card.

To the replies: The information available on forums is hard to dig through and find the facts. There are so many people posting "what they speculate" and not what they know to be a fact. I understand the original poster's reasons for asking the question. Not everyone understands the differences in frequencies when it comes to 3G data usage.

Some facts:
I have a German Milestone that worked in Germany with a Blau.de pre-paid SIM card on the 3G data network. I brought it to the USA and I can only use EDGE data speeds but voice is fine too with my AT&T SIM card.

 

[chyau.00]

Am I reading a different spec or sometihng?

My understanding

European/Asia/World Milestone - Quadband GSM phone. Dualband 3g

meaning it will work anywhere in the world...but only in selected countries for 3g
(no 3g in North America)

Canadian Milestone - Dualband GSM
meaning 3g and regular phone function ONLY within North America, more specifically.
AT&T owned wireless towers (and Rogers)
It will work on Telus and Bell too, because they use the towers owned by Rogers.

 

[WirelessGuy]

Telus Milestone WILL work on AT&T, it WILL have 3G and HSDPA (3.5G), it also can access ALL market apps.

When you get a Milestone and plan to use it on AT&T, make sure if has the FCC ID: IHDP56KC5 which is Quad-Band GSM (850/900/1800/1900) and Tri-Band 3G (850/1900/2100) North American frequencies. I would suggest unlocking it when you are in range of the AT&T Network. Mine was unlocked while within the AT&T network and all the APN data and such was set automatically, data worked immediately after it was unlocked.

There is 2 different Milestones available:

FCC ID: IHDP56KC5 = Quad-Band GSM (850/900/1800/1900) and Tri-Band 3G (850/1900/2100) North American frequencies

FCC ID: IHDP56KC2 = Quad-Band GSM (850/900/1800/1900) and Dual-Band 3G (900/2100) European frequencies

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[Brendanmurphy]

Am I reading a different spec or sometihng?

My understanding

European/Asia/World Milestone - Quadband GSM phone. Dualband 3g

meaning it will work anywhere in the world...but only in selected countries for 3g
(no 3g in North America)

Canadian Milestone - Dualband GSM
meaning 3g and regular phone function ONLY within North America, more specifically.
AT&T owned wireless towers (and Rogers)
It will work on Telus and Bell too, because they use the towers owned by Rogers.

No...... Telus actually built there own towers. Why would they piggy back off rogers? Telus and bell have 2 - 3x the coverage of rogers 3g so there is no chance they are using rogers towers.