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Network vision & LTE rollout

cool. But that has Nothing to do with this thread though... since its titled "Network Vision." lol
I respect your position. I feel that it has everything to do with Network Vision. Our speeds are this slow because of the roll-out of this new network. The way they are rolling out the Network Vision is limiting our speeds to an extreme & making my phone (at least) unusable away from WiFi. So while I respect your position, I disagree that my 3G speeds have nothing to do with the Network Vision roll-out. It has everything to do with it.

In saying that, I don't wish to contend this point any longer. As long as the Network Vision roll-out is effecting peoples speeds & the usability of our devices I feel that people should report their experience with it. I will continue to do so until I see an improvement, or I switch networks.

Perhaps a separate thread for 3G/4G speeds during this roll-out would be appropriate? I don't know. I really appreciate your input though & I hope you have a pleasant day :)

~ ArmyX
 
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cool. But that has Nothing to do with this thread though... since its titled "Network Vision." lol

Robert at s4gru.com has been clear that 3G fixes are also part of Network Vision.

Slow 3G speeds are being caused by not only decrepit towers but also the poor backhaul in many areas.

The Network Vision upgrade will deliver LTE and 1x Advanced as you say, but it's also a comprehensive upgrade to serve all subscribers, not just those with the new fancy phones.

While Network Vision is rolling out, non-Network Vision tower maintenance is ongoing. There's a tower about 3 or 4 miles away from me that's scheduled for maintenance quite soon because it's basically a 3G dead zone right now.

But I think that Phoenix is one of those troubled cities overall. Whenever I've been there, it's usually been atrocious in most places I've been, so they are in desperate need of the Network Vision upgrade.

However, I can back up that the expo center was never that bad before. Spotty, yes, but that was all or nothing, you had to avoid nulls.

ArmyX, I strongly recommend that you email Sprint and insist that you want Tier 3 support to respond because this is at their level. Email, unlike calling, nets you a case number and a paper trail.

For everyone else, if you think that a thread is getting derailed, please let one of us reds play mod, cheers, thanks! ;) :)
 
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Just got back from Phoenix Comicon. The 3G was 68kbps at the expo center. I'm a very patient and understanding person, but I am very upset about this. With all due respect this is unacceptable, Sprint. I'm at the point now where if there is no WiFi then I can't use my phone.

~ ArmyX

While I'm sure you're experience poor 3G speeds in other places as well, terrible 3G speeds are the norm for big conventions in convention centers, regardless of carrier.
 
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While I'm sure you're experience poor 3G speeds in other places as well, terrible 3G speeds are the norm for big conventions in convention centers, regardless of carrier.

I was thinking this too, but everything I've heard suggests Phoenix is a 3G hole for Sprint. Army, did you get a chance to see what others at the con were getting on different networks? Was everyone suffering or just Sprint?
 
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I was thinking this too, but everything I've heard suggests Phoenix is a 3G hole for Sprint. Army, did you get a chance to see what others at the con were getting on different networks? Was everyone suffering or just Sprint?
My Sister who went with me is with Verizon and she was getting normal 3G & 4G speeds.

Phoenix is a hole for Sprint. It's very frustrating because it's been this way for so long, and really for no good reason. It's hard to be a loyal customer when Verizon & AT&T have full (and fast) 4G & 3G coverage throughout the city. I am sure it's frustrating for Sprint also, as when CLEAR was in charge of 4G coverage they really didn't have any control over it.

Anyway as I said, I was just reporting speeds around town in relation to the Now Network changes. In reality the slower speeds lately are probably good news in the long run. Hopefully it means they are upgrading things. At least that's the positive spin I'm trying to tell myself :)

In the meantime, I am taking EarlyMon's good advice & writing Sprint a respectful email expressing my reasonable (and justified) frustration in relation to the Network Vision roll-out. I will probably get a generic reply like; "We assure you 4G is coming 'soon™', please be patient and thank you for being a Sprint customer." - but at least it's a good way to document & communicate with my Carrier.

~ ArmyX
 
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According to the Network Vision schedule S4GRU has, Network Vision will likely begin rolling out in Phoenix in late 2012 or early 2013.

Another bit of info, Sprint has announced today that they have scheduled iDEN shutdown by June 30, 2013. So, that will open up room for the additional LTE on 800mhz we all desperately want (need).
Sprint schedules iDEN sunset for June 30, 2013 - Sprint 4G Rollout Updates

Apparently, 1x-Advanced is already going live on 800mhz with the upgrades they are doing now. Once the iDEN decommissioning is complete next summer, it will allow enough room for LTE on 800mhz as well.


EDIT: Looks like Sprint just took down all the iDen/Nextel phones from the website. At least I dont see any for sale, anyway.
 
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I thought theses maps that S4GRU produced were pretty good. These maps show the sites that are scheduled to be upgraded in June alone. I guess the reason I was impressed was the fact that there are approximately the same number of sites scheduled to be upgraded this month alone as were done in the first 5 months. Obviously things are really starting to accelerate.
Sprint LTE June 2012 Schedule Maps - Sprint 4G Rollout Updates
 
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