Root [CDMA] Looking for help on installing this because I am very new to rooting

[DonB]

Another app I love actually better than TB, is Rom Toolbox, and has many other features with it, great little app, and yes you are correct Scotty about the S-Off, my bad, I was thinking about loosing root.I always thought if you took the OTA and loss root that would would loose S-Off, you learn something new everyday

 

[Brian706]

You guys are full of great info! I have actually owned My Backup Pro for quite awhile and used it to back all my important stuff up before trying any of this. The Zred rom is a little crazy to look at right at first. It's so flashy! I might try Scotty's instructions just for fun and a learning experience. Grr... I have to go again. It will have to wait until later!

 

[DonB]

Also the the Rom Toolbox I posted you will be pleasantly impressed, I know I was when I was turned on to it.

You guys are full of great info! I have actually owned My Backup Pro for quite awhile and used it to back all my important stuff up before trying any of this. The Zred rom is a little crazy to look at right at first. It's so flashy! I might try Scotty's instructions just for fun and a learning experience. Grr... I have to go again. It will have to wait until later!

 

[Brian706]

I like that rom toolbox is all in one but I already have apps that do everything. I dunno if I want to buy another right now. If I followed Scotty's instructions what recovery would you have me flash? Last time I tried to flash 4ext through fastboot i had problems. Where do you guys find all these downloads?

I wouldn't just be able to download 4ext and flash recovery through app right? because I wouldn't have SU installed.

What is the difference between the superuser app scotty linked to and the one from chainsdd that I have currently? Is one better or is it just a preference thing?

 

[Brian706]

I'm downloading the RUU that Scotty provided right now. I am thinking about just trying this on my own although I am a little hesitant to do it without a step by step. I assume that installing SU is as easy as choosing install file from sd. Then just choosing the SU file I saved. The recovery is more the part I'm worried about. I don't know which one to install or where to look really. The only one I have been successful with is TWRP following the newbies guide. I have read that TWRP 1.1.1 doesn't play well with ICS? If anyone is monitoring this, any advice on a recovery and link for download?

 

[scotty85]

you will not be able to use the fastboot boot or fastboot flash commands with a stock,locked hboot. unlocking thru htcdev will also unlock some extended fastboot commands,but it will also leave a watermark that makes it obvious that you had unlocked at some point in time,so you really do not want to unlock the hboot again. leave it in a locked state. installing an eng hboot will also let you use those commands,but that is defiantely not needed,and prolly an un-neccessary risk since you are still learning how to flash things.

youre also correct,you cant install it thru the app with no root access.

*the easiest way to install the recovery is as a PG86IMG in hboot.

-download this:
PG86IMG-recovery_ext_4.zip

-check the md5 wich should be:
PG86IMG-recovery_ext_4.zip ede71ca8a3e02664ab002b0054487c6a

-plaCE it on the root of your sd card,and rename it "PG86IMG"

-boot to hboot. it should find your file and ask you to update. tell it yes

-reboot. immediately remove or rename PG86IMG from your sd card,as its presense will keep you from entering recovery thru hboot in an emergency

-now you can go back to recovery and wipe cache and dalvik cache and flsah superSU.

i recomend superSU because i know it works. your superuser 3.0.7 will not work for ICS. im sure there are other superusers that will work,but i cant comment on them. ive been using superSU since v89 and have used it to root several stock ICS roms on several different devices,and even used it to fix non-working superusers in a couple custom roms

 

[Brian706]

Now I am really confused. I was just about to start the process but I'm glad I saw your message. I have already HTC unlocked and also S-off using the wire trick. So when I flash this RUU I won't be able to use fastboot commands? I assumed that was how I was going to flash a recovery? I just downloaded TWRP 2.2.2 img file to flash in command prompt. Are you saying I can't use this method? I'm sorry if I am asking silly questions. I just don't want to get my phone to a point where I can't recover.

Basically here was my plan. Run the RUU that you posted for me. Then Flash TWRP Recovery 2.2.2 using sdk mini. Then install SU that you posted. This will not work?
I just don't understand how to flash a recovery if I can't use fastboot...


ETA: Maybe I am confusing my terms here with hboot and fastboot...?? If you catch me using an incorrect term I won't be upset if you correct me. I would actually very much appreciate it. I assumed i would flash a recovery in the same fashion that I did following jerofld's complete newbies guide method?

 

[scotty85]

well, i have just explained to you how to flash it without using fastboot commands,so im not sure why youre confused

the wire trick should have returned you to a locked status. most folks wish to keep it that way,in case they need to return their devices for some sort of warranty claim.

even if you are s-off,re-unlocking your bootloader leaves the watermark that the good folks at sprint or htc can see. they will know,if they care to look, that you have unlocked it at some point,as when you re-lock it,you will be relocked. listen carefully to this next part,if you have an evo3d with factory warranty that you do not want to jeopardize:

if you unlock with htcdev after s-off,you cannot get your hboot banner to say locked again,unless you turn s back to on,and then do the wire trick and s-off again.

having said that,if your device has no factory warranty,or you just plain do not care,then unlocking so you can use fastboot flash is certainly an option.(i actually keep my rezound hboot unlocked,but i bought it used and do not care.)

i put together a download for you,and gave you instructions to flash it,becasue:
1)you said you had trouble with fastboot flash previously.
2)you said you prefered ext 4 recovery.

if you wish to unlock and fastboot flash a recovery,you can,but do so haveing read the above warnings about the locked/unlocked/relocked banner. you can fastboot flash twrp,or you can extract the download i linked for you,and fastboot flash ext 4 by moving the recovery image to you adb/fastboot folder. its entirely up to you.

 

[scotty85]

oh... one last thing. if you have allready unlocked,you will need to relock to run the ruu. you can re-unlock afterward,with your original unlock_code.bin,if you wish.

 

[scotty85]

ETA: Maybe I am confusing my terms here with hboot and fastboot...?? If you catch me using an incorrect term I won't be upset if you correct me. I would actually very much appreciate it. I assumed i would flash a recovery in the same fashion that I did following jerofld's complete newbies guide method?

hboot= the mode that you use to flash things from your sd card.

fastboot= the mode that you enter commands in a cmd window

power on/vol down takes you to hboot. you can select "fastboot" from the hboot menu if you need to use the cmd window.

adb reboot bootloader takes you to fastboot. you can get to hboot by selecting "bootloader" in the fastboot menu.

 

[Brian706]

Ok I think I understand a little bit better now. I don't really care about the warranty. I don't think I have one anyway. Also my banner now reads Juopunutbear lol as I let them install custom hboot. Looking back at the TWRP site they offer a PGIMG86 file as well... But I will try to follow your instructions and use the 4ext you provided.

I guess the only other question I have is the order of operations. Let me see if I understand this fully. Run the RUU.exe you provided. Then save ext4 img to my sd root. then start in bootloader and say yes to update. Then reboot and phone will start up. Delete the recovery image and restart into bootloader again. flash SU. Then do whatever I want?

 

[scotty85]

so just to recap,my recomendations would be:
1)relock if your unlocked.
2)run ruu
3)install ext 4 recovery in hboot as a PG86IMG file
4)reboot and remove PG86 from sd
5)go back to recovery,flash super SU

however,if you want to use fastboot(you do not have to. there are multiple ways to skin the cat):
1)relock if your unlocked.
2)run ruu
3) go to fastboot,reunlock
4)reboot,go back to fastboot. fastboot flash recovery
5)reboot
6)go back to recovery,flash super SU

IMO the first set of directions should be easier for a novice flasher,but you are welcome to do it however you are most comfortable.

 

[Brian706]

Wow I am really glad you posted right before I started. I probably would have majorly screwed things up. So now I need to follow the relock instructions before all of this? My head is spinning hahaha. I think I will wait til tomorrow to do this with a fresh start. Had probably a few too many :beerglass: so I will start this tomorrow! Thank you though for all your help and for coming back at just the right time. I am going to call it a night and I will read this again tomorrow and wait for you if I have any questions.

oh... one last thing. if you have allready unlocked,you will need to relock to run the ruu. you can re-unlock afterward,with your original unlock_code.bin,if you wish.

 

[scotty85]

Ok I think I understand a little bit better now. I don't really care about the warranty. I don't think I have one anyway. Also my banner now reads Juopunutbear lol as I let them install custom hboot. Looking back at the TWRP site they offer a PGIMG86 file as well... But I will try to follow your instructions and use the 4ext you provided.

I guess the only other question I have is the order of operations. Let me see if I understand this fully. relock bootloader if its unlocked. Run the RUU.exe you provided. Then save ext4 img to my sd root. then start in bootloader and say yes to update. Then reboot and phone will start up. Delete the recovery image and restart into bootloader again. flash SU. Then do whatever I want?

other than the red i just added,yup,100% correct

 

[scotty85]

Wow I am really glad you posted right before I started. I probably would have majorly screwed things up. So now I need to follow the relock instructions before all of this? My head is spinning hahaha. I think I will wait til tomorrow to do this with a fresh start. Had probably a few too many :beerglass: so I will start this tomorrow! Thank you though for all your help and for coming back at just the right time. I am going to call it a night and I will read this again tomorrow and wait for you if I have any questions.

lol you wouldnt have screwed anything up. the ruu utility would have just given you an error,no big deal. but it would have prolly caused you some un-needed fustration

 

[Brian706]

Well good to know. Again thank you for everything. I will do this tomorrow with a fresh mind. I'm pretty sure I saw instructions lying around somewhere for relocking the bootloader. Goodnight Scotty! I will post my results tomorrow after I fumble through this adventure.

lol you wouldnt have screwed anything up. the ruu utility would have just given you an error,no big deal. but it would have prolly caused you some un-needed fustration

 

[scotty85]

Well good to know. Again thank you for everything. I will do this tomorrow with a fresh mind. I'm pretty sure I saw instructions lying around somewhere for relocking the bootloader. Goodnight Scotty! I will post my results tomorrow after I fumble through this adventure.

i totally just lied to you. sorry about that its been a long day,and i guess i had a brain cramp.

if you were s-on,youd need to relock to run the ruu. with s-off,it does not matter.

so,just ignore any comments i made about relocking

all you need to do is:

1)run ruu
2)install ext 4 recovery in hboot as a PG86IMG file
3)reboot and remove PG86 from sd
4)go back to recovery,flash super SU

again,sorry for the mix up,i know darn well relocking isnt needed with s-off, i do it all the time

you can run the ruu unlocked,and when its finished,youll still be unlocked

ok,im defiantely going to bed now

 

[Brian706]

Hahahahah its ok man. I'd rather be safe than sorry. I am glad I don't have to relock. I will still do this tomorrow though. You have been very helpful and I appreciate it. Sleep well friend.

 

[DonB]

Sorry guys I was not around last night, had a prior engagement with the wife, so I was not able to make it here, but I see Scotty squared you away, hopefully this morning your fresh eyes will have the proper perspective to get this going and you should be golden, I will be in and out today, but will check in from time to time from my phone to see your progress, so keep us updated, good luck, you should be fine. Now you see why I brought the HTC King Scotty here.

 

[Brian706]

Hi Don. No big deal. Flashing Ics on my phone is definitely not more important than your wife. Scotty was full of great advice. I will be doing all of this a little bit later. I have a question out of general curiosity. Is my bootloader locked since I did the wire trick? I assume yes because that's what scotty said happens. The reason I asked is because mine reads juopunutbear at the top. I'm assuming it just says that instead of locked though? Or does using their boot leave it unlocked?

 

[Brian706]

Also when someone has time could they peak at this thread: http://androidforums.com/evo-3d-all-things-root/605120-how-revert-gingerbread-ics.html


I tried to be helpful but I would hate to give someone bad advice...
It had been several days and nobody answered the question so I did my best with what you and Scotty have taught me so far.

 

[DonB]

Looks good to me, I will check better when I get home, but also looks like it was not answered for days because it was posted in the wrong section it was recently moved

 

[Brian706]

Oh that's true about it being moved. It was fun to do anyway. Even if i end up making myself look stupid the best way to learn is to just go for it. Haven't had time yet to run the RUU.

 

[Brian706]

Was about to start this and realized I needed to clarify something. Do I extract the Image file from that zip to place on my SD card or do I place the whole zip file on my SD card?

Would I rename PG86IMG-recovery_ext_4.zip to PG86IMG.zip?

Or would I rename the file inside that is named "recovery" to PG86IMG?


Update: I answered my own question with this thread: http://androidforums.com/evo-3d-all...lash-recovery-image-via-fastboot-sd-card.html
Good info there for newbs!!

*the easiest way to install the recovery is as a PG86IMG in hboot.

-download this:
PG86IMG-recovery_ext_4.zip

-check the md5 wich should be:
PG86IMG-recovery_ext_4.zip ede71ca8a3e02664ab002b0054487c6a

-plaCE it on the root of your sd card,and rename it "PG86IMG"

-boot to hboot. it should find your file and ask you to update. tell it yes

-reboot. immediately remove or rename PG86IMG from your sd card,as its presense will keep you from entering recovery thru hboot in an emergency

 

[Brian706]

successfully flashed the RUU! Going to root it now.

I have another general knowledge question... It would be pointless for me to flash the rom that I've been trying to flash all this time right? Basically installing the RUU is the same exact thing right? It is completely stock (so much so that I have to manually root it). But flashing the rooted stock rom would be exactly the same as rooting the stock rom per scotty's instructions?

Success! I am rooted ICS. Thank you guys so much for all the help!! You guys are awesome!!