Push advertising: notification ads, unwanted shortcuts, browsers redirected.

[Rico ANDROID]

This particular device isnt rooted so i had to use another phone to take the pic of the Ad Network sumary screen.. may be a little fuzzy but you see the very last item:

 

[Daniel Jones]

Push advertising is annoying, I hates apps advertisement through push notification. I have received a number of push messages over my HTC Dezire phone and rated those apps sending messages with single star and not so good reviews.
Advertising products is good but disturbing people while work annoys them.

 

[curlyfries]

thanks guys
I found really useful info in here.

 

[Rico ANDROID]

I agree, Daniel#27, very annoying. I used to use an app that suppose to scan an app for " viruses" as it is being installed.. too bad it doesnt scan for push ads too, because it would flag itself as an adpush app. A recent update made to this app included the annoyance where an earlier version did not.

 

[Rico ANDROID]

thanks guys
I found really useful info in here.

Scroll up to post#1 and PUSH that Thanks Button ! It was Hadron's research and thoughtfulness to share his findings! It sure cleaned my device!

Join the revolution and say:

 

[Supernero]

Hey,

Rico and Daniel I extremely agree with you these push adds/notifications make me want to pay on free apps and keep my device "clean" of unwanted notifications.
If you have any ideas how to avoid receiving push notifications please let me know. (NOT DOWNLOADING THE APP ISN'T A GOOD IDEA )

 

[OstrichSaK]

Hey,

Rico and Daniel I extremely agree with you these push adds/notifications make me want to pay on free apps and keep my device "clean" of unwanted notifications.
If you have any ideas how to avoid receiving push notifications please let me know. (NOT DOWNLOADING THE APP ISN'T A GOOD IDEA )

And what app with push notifications are you a dev of?

BTW Rico, I saw Chris Kattan (his avatar) do standup last weekend and met him afterwards. :smokingsomb:

 

[Supernero]

I am end user and I understand that devs need to earn money, and I appreciate their willingness to keep their apps free, but the fact that my phone is troubled every 5 minutes makes it extremely annoying using this kind of apps.
Don't you agree?

 

[OstrichSaK]

I am end user and I understand that devs need to earn money, and I appreciate their willingness to keep their apps free, but the fact that my phone is troubled every 5 minutes makes it extremely annoying using this kind of apps.
Don't you agree?

I'm not buying that you're ONLY an end-user for many reasons but we won't get into that here. I just wish this forum wasn't so pro-dev and required full disclosure because it makes it hard to take lots of members here serious when they clearly have ulterior motives to their 'stance' on topics. I grow weary of devs masquerading is simple end users who think they're cleverly stating their hidden agenda like we're all idiots who don't read through the obviousness of their words. I do agree with your statement that pop-up advertisements are annoying but I would also add that they are completely unacceptable and as such I refuse to support devs who use such obtrusive tactics. It doesn't make me want to give them money it makes me want to find out what development group created that app and never use anything they release again. Your stance that we should just pay those who use such crooked methods is comical at best.

 

[OstrichSaK]

Oh, and just so we're clear about you being an 'end user' as you claim and your statement was that of an end user w/o any conflict of interest...

Here's a post from you in the 'Revenue' found in the 'Application Developement' subforum:

Hey,

There are many ways to generate money out of your apps. The main question is what kind of apps do you want to promote. If your apps are classified into the games category I recommend a paid app or a pay per download model. If your app belongs to the live wallpapers or widgets category you can use a pay per app download model such as startapp's and if you have place in your app you can always use in app ad impressions such as admob or Airpush or push notifications.
I have tested the different CPM'S according to different categories of apps so feel free to ask how to maximize your revenue.

Here's another post from you in the same thread:

Hey,

I think this is an amazing way to promote your apps while keeping them free and not disturbing your end users. Airpush and other similar ad networks can generate a nice income but at the same time create a very bad buzz around the app and around its developer. I suggest leaving the app "clean" without in ad's and using ad networks such as Startapp which offer pay per download.

But just in case that wasn't enough evidence... here's another thread you actually started called 'Hey great community' in the 'Introductions' subforum and I bolded the important part in your own words:

Hi,

I am a young developer, I love surfing and eating Junk (ya I know its not healthy but I love it). I am here to learn and teach others all kinds of stuff related to android apps.
Feel free to ask me anything.

peace out

This doesn't seem like talk of an 'end user' to me as you claim you are in trying to peddle your propaganda on us. When you take the title of profiting from applications you can no longer take the side of 'end user' in a discussion about advertisement abuse by those who stand to make monetary gain from such devices. There are many others in this thread and others on this forum who pull the same tactics so be warned... we don't fall for your BS. We just normally don't take the time to call you out on your obvious conflict of interests in said discussions.

 

[Supernero]

This doesn't seem like talk of an 'end user' to me as you claim you are in trying to peddle your propaganda on us. When you take the title of profiting from applications you can no longer take the side of 'end user' in a discussion about advertisement abuse by those who stand to make monetary gain from such devices. There are many others in this thread and others on this forum who pull the same tactics so be warned... we don't fall for your BS. We just normally don't take the time to call you out on your obvious conflict of interests in said discussions.

I think you misunderstood me regarding the post I had earlier. I thing we share the same opinion regarding push notifications and ad networks such as airpush. I agree that I am a developer as well, but that has nothing to do with what I wrote that push ads are annoying. I really wrote from an end users view point. If I offended you some how I do apologize but I must tell you I do not have any secret agenda.
Regarding you saying that I have a conflict of interests I completely disagree and I will explain. The fact I am a developer and I do not choose any push notifications ad networks for my apps only demonstrates that what I said was completely true. I choose to monetize my apps in different ways that do not include push notifications and that is because I care about my users.

 

[OstrichSaK]

I think you misunderstood me regarding the post I had earlier. I thing we share the same opinion regarding push notifications and ad networks such as airpush. I agree that I am a developer as well, but that has nothing to do with what I wrote that push ads are annoying. I really wrote from an end users view point. If I offended you some how I do apologize but I must tell you I do not have any secret agenda.
Regarding you saying that I have a conflict of interests I completely disagree and I will explain. The fact I am a developer and I do not choose any push notifications ad networks for my apps only demonstrates that what I said was completely true. I choose to monetize my apps in different ways that do not include push notifications and that is because I care about my users.

We may share the same opinion on how annoying they are but that's where the similarities end. You also went on to say that push adverts make you want to pay for them to keep your phone clean. How is that not an agenda when you're a dev and stand to gain from others paying for apps with push adverts to keep their phones clean? Saying these things coupled with not revealing that you're a developer even when you're called out on it sure seems like a hidden agenda to me. Stressing that you're an end user when you're called out on it initially doesn't look like someone who is forthright about his position as a developer. I get so sick of posts by obvious developers stating 'Hey, I just found this wonderful new app you should take a look at' in regards to a discussion forum of users trying to discuss a similar app because it's annoying. Trying to seem like you're just one of us to push your apps or your agenda is deceitful and is rampant on this forum. Your initial post and subsequent post claiming you're simply an 'end user' smacks of that regardless of how you later try to justify it.

 

[Rico ANDROID]

And what app with push notifications are you a dev of?

BTW Rico, I saw Chris Kattan (his avatar) do standup last weekend and met him afterwards. :smokingsomb:

I am very JEALOUS! Kattan has been one of my fav SNL stars! Ive seen him once when we had SNL tickets when he was a regular! Never got to meet him, so you just gotta tell us, is he just as cool and funny in person?

Back to the discussion:
this Ad Network app has really , really been a helpful tool for keepinge aware of which apps I dont want installed "or" if I HAVE to the app, I like the "opt-out" links it provide for contacting an ad network to have your imei removed from their contacts

 

[beatnik]

too add another app (i use it hopefully its not a bad app) but

AppBrain Ad Detector

tells you exactly all things an app can access if it does push notifications and what ad networks it uses for adds.

Correct me if this is an unreliable app

 

[OstrichSaK]

I am very JEALOUS! Kattan has been one of my fav SNL stars! Ive seen him once when we had SNL tickets when he was a regular! Never got to meet him, so you just gotta tell us, is he just as cool and funny in person?

He was an alright dude. He wasn't like uncontrollable funny in person but he wasn't a jerk so that's a bonus.

No more OT now.

 

[mikedt]

A very annoying method of app push advertising I've come across recently, full-screen colour ads that seem to popup randomly. Culprit was a game called Turbo Racer 3D, this came from the Lenovo app store on my phone. It would show full-screen ads in English for other paid games even when it wasn't running. Interesting thing was, the ads would try to load Google Play when touched. But there is no Google Play on my phone, same for most phones in China, so they wouldn't work. I removed the offending game, because it didn't work properly anyway, and now no more ads. I can't find a game called Turbo Racer 3D in Google Play on my PC and nor on my 4.0 Android tablet.

Has anyone else come accross full-screen popup ads coming from ad-supported apps and games? I know about AirPush notification-bar ads, but I don't think it was that.

I was originally thinking this might have been something that only happens in China, however..
1) The ads were in English.
2) They always linked to Google Play.

 

[Rico ANDROID]

He was an alright dude. He wasn't like uncontrollable funny in person but he wasn't a jerk so that's a bonus.

No more OT now.

A very annoying method of app push advertising I've come across recently, full-screen colour ads that seem to popup randomly. Culprit was a game called Turbo Racer 3D, this came from the Lenovo app store on my phone. It would show full-screen ads in English for other paid games even when it wasn't running. Interesting thing was, the ads would try to load Google Play when touched. But there is no Google Play on my phone, same for most phones in China, so they wouldn't work. I removed the offending game, because it didn't work properly anyway, and now no more ads. I can't find a game called Turbo Racer 3D in Google Play on my PC and nor on my 4.0 Android tablet.

Has anyone else come accross full-screen popup ads coming from ad-supported apps and games? I know about AirPush notification-bar ads, but I don't think it was that.

I was originally thinking this might have been something that only happens in China, however..
1) The ads were in English.
2) They always linked to Google Play.

Sims FreePlay has full page ads.

 

[mikedt]

Sims FreePlay has full page ads.

Very annoying and intrusive though, if a game is showing full page ads when you're not even playing it. If you're getting popup ads on a PC, it's usually because it's infected with malware. IMO far more intrusive than the AirPush notification ads, and I would consider this malware.

 

[Rico ANDROID]

Very annoying and intrusive though, if a game is showing full page ads when you're not even playing it. If you're getting popup ads on a PC, it's usually because it's infected with malware. IMO far more intrusive than the AirPush notification ads, and I would consider this malware.

I agree 100%. So far I have been lucky not to experience any ads even while not using an app or playing a game. But I've had the worse experience with Sims Freeplay. The full-page ads "worked" better than the game. Each time you would do anything in the game, it goes into a "pause" state, then loads the full page ads, then you have to "back" out of it just "Wait" even more for the game to reload.

Imagine this on devices where a user has limited data. Eats it right up!

 

[mikedt]

I agree 100%. So far I have been lucky not to experience any ads even while not using an app or playing a game. But I've had the worse experience with Sims Freeplay. The full-page ads "worked" better than the game. Each time you would do anything in the game, it goes into a "pause" state, then loads the full page ads, then you have to "back" out of it just "Wait" even more for the game to reload.

Imagine this on devices where a user has limited data. Eats it right up!

The ads I was getting were definitely downloading with 3G mobile data, because when I turned off mobile data, no ads appeared. My mobile data is pay as you use. I send a SMS to a special number requesting how much mobile data I wish to buy, and the amount is deducted from my total pre-paid account balance. That's how it works with China Mobile.

LOL Sims Freeplay must be a bad game, if the ads are better than the game. Like when a TV show is so bad, the ads are better. The offending game I referred to earlier didn't work properly, the start screens loaded but when I tried to play it, it froze and had to be force closed.

 

[Rico ANDROID]

The ads I was getting were definitely downloading with 3G mobile data, because when I turned off mobile data, no ads appeared. My mobile data is pay as you use. I send a SMS to a special number requesting how much mobile data I wish to buy, and the amount is deducted from my total pre-paid account balance. That's how it works with China Mobile.

LOL Sims Freeplay must be a bad game, if the ads are better than the game. Like when a TV show is so bad, the ads are better. The offending game I referred to earlier didn't work properly, the start screens loaded but when I tried to play it, it froze and had to be force closed.

I never thought of testing that. Good idea turning off data while playing. I think with Freeplay,the game might not even load without data. Very interesting. And yes, its that bad. Their recent updates seem to break something rather than fix it. The game played for a few seconds then slams an ad in the face before u can get to do anything.

 

[DanWindel]

Good to know i'll keep my eyes open for push scammers.

 

[Rico ANDROID]

Good to know i'll keep my eyes open for push scammers.

I agree! And you can thank Hadron for that.....(when she.s not busy over in the Land Of DAYAMNED!) Click the "thanksl button at the bottum of post #1 in this discussion!

Click PIC:

 

[Rico ANDROID]

Oops! Did I just get NIJAD by a spampost?.....dang it!...well my post to Hadron still stands (although off topic)


Looks like a brand new toy! Will be nice to see some feedback , I will check it out. I like switching out things on my trusty T.E.D. ( " M Y " android has a personality of its own)

HATS OFF TO HADRON!

Spoiler

I want to take this opportunity to extend an appology and
KUDOS to The Magnificant HADRON!
I met Hadron before and totally enjoy learning from his experience.

Hadron's Halloween e-Costume this year stumpped me ROYALLY!
I forgot I met HIM early on...soooooo,
when I was locked in a cold spookie den at the old OTD Manor "Den OTD", Hadron was there..

..however the E-Costume made me believe
Hadron was in disguise...OTD! And I was calling him "her"

You stumpped me well sir Hadron!

You are the greatest!

 

[PD439]

Thanks for the post. I downloaded the addons app and it quickly located two apps that were the source of the dreaded red star notifications. Thanks again!