I just called out HTC, asking them to make a premium no-compromise product.

[Don S]

Yes. Maybe we can all just take a breath and see what the reviews say about battery life. The very early ones have been positive. If it is so unimaginably bad, then maybe we can all make wild Facebook rants to HTC

 

[cybertec69]

I doubt they care if you pay full retail or not. Its the carrier that pockets that. HTC already made the sale to the carrier.


Posting on their Facebook page just means the poor PR intern they have at the time has to read off her script and reply to it. Its unfortunately not going to change anything as I doubt anyone with the decision making power will ever see it..

They have a tendency to delete unfavorable posts anyway

Who says the buyer will buy the phone at full price from Verizon, have you heard of Amazon, eBay, and many other authorized HTC vendors.

 

[cybertec69]

I doubt they care if you pay full retail or not. Its the carrier that pockets that. HTC already made the sale to the carrier.


Posting on their Facebook page just means the poor PR intern they have at the time has to read off her script and reply to it. Its unfortunately not going to change anything as I doubt anyone with the decision making power will ever see it..

They have a tendency to delete unfavorable posts anyway

Same here, sd slot would have been great also.

But until I actually have space problems on mine I'm gonna do what I do and see what happens

Can you please explain to me where I will be able to put my 38 gigs of high resolution movies "19 on my card so far" and high resolution music on the DNA that are currently stored on my 64 Gig Micro SD Card. I am not a fan of the cloud, sorry, even though I have an unlimited data plan, it makes no sense to me to purchase a movie that I can only watch on the cloud via WiFi or 4G LTE, as I can purchase the same movie "cheaper" on Amazon on a DVD "own the hard copy" and use DVD Catalyst - to transfer the movie to my computer and any storage device I please, also I like to listen to high resolution "uncompressed" music, no MP3 junk, and I am not the only one on that front, so again, help out here, how can the DNA take care of my needs, I know my S3 can, HTC again with another failure.

 

[cybertec69]

I posted this in another thread, but will repeat here. One thing that has piqued my interest is that while usage time is only slightly over half of what the Note 2 is, (22 for Note vs. 12.8 Hours for DNA) Standby time is actually 40% MORE (250 hours for Note vs. 350 hours for DNA). If those stats hold up, light users will get very similar battery life to the Note. Heavy users... Not so much.

The Note has a user replaceable battery, the DNA not. On the Note once your battery drains, all you do is OPEN the back and pop in a nice fresh battery, and off you go. An extra battery in the pocket will not weight any one down.

 

[WuBoy]

Let's just come to grips with it. Not every Android phone is going to fit everyone. That's why there are 1000 Android phones. If this was some kind of flagship phone like the iPhone, then you can complain that it doesn't suit your every need because it's your only option. In this case, the phone will suit the needs of some and not others. Fortunately you have other options. It may suck. I like this phone too, but I use 11 GB without even trying and no Unlimited data plan means cloud storage is not a suitable alternative.

 

[cybertec69]

Let's just come to grips with it. Not every Android phone is going to fit everyone. That's why there are 1000 Android phones. If this was some kind of flagship phone like the iPhone, then you can complain that it doesn't suit your every need because it's your only option. In this case, the phone will suit the needs of some and not others. Fortunately you have other options. It may suck. I like this phone too, but I use 11 GB without even trying and no Unlimited data plan means cloud storage is not a suitable alternative.

You see, for a company that is financially in trouble, this is not the way to go and try to sell only a few phones, to a few people, you see what Samsung did, they sold 30 million S3 phones in one quarter, and it was available to all carriers in the US and Europe, because they listened to the MASS market, as people want "removable battery" and" Micro SD card storage for their media files", that is how you sell a boat load of devices and make your share holders HAPPY, the way HTC is going, makes me wonder how long they will last. And yes the screen is nice, but in the long run the owner will suffer, and the nice screen will become an afterthought, trust me, and in a few months there will be more devices with 1080p screens, then what will HTC's selling point be. Samsung has already stated they are producing 1080p screens as wee speak, and from the looks of the Nexus 10 screen, they will be fantastic. HTC needs to wake up and smell the coffee, one big mistake after another, when will they ever learn, oh yea, when their stock goes to junk status and they get bought out. You produce the first 1080p phone on the market and don't try to sell it to everyone "flood the market" is beyond me, what's with this exclusivity crap, you think Samsung or any other manufacturer would survive with that kind of thinking, it's like Nike making the Air Jordans "when they where popular, and only sold them in the USA. Or Samsung, Panasonic, LG making a TV model and only selling it in one market. HTC's strategy is what has been killing them, whatever they are smoking in Taiwan, they should just keep it in Taiwan, because it's not good stuff, LOL.

 

[Red Devil]

I think the lack of SD cards in phones these days might be due to the carriers wanting people to access their data from the cloud. While we know that there a lots of disadvantages with the cloud, it is a very promising source of revenue for a lot of these big companies. They want you to listen to your music and watch movies from the cloud. They want you to gobble up the data and pay a premium for additional data. I think a company as big and influential as Samsung might get away with adding SD cards to their phones, but the smaller ones may not be able to flex their muscles.

Also, I think there is a performance hit when it comes to reading\writing data into SD cards. I am not sure if it is perceptible or not, but phone manufacturers might think this to be something that they could get rid of. Besides, if the user is willing to pay $100 extra for additional storage, why provide the ability to add additional storage to the base model for cheap!

I don't understand why companies like HTC, Nokia etc do carrier exclusives. I know a lot of people who skip phones because they don't want to change their carrier. Perhaps the carriers offer incentives that outweigh the benefits of releasing it on other carriers. I am not quite sure on this one

 

[AntimonyER]

Well Verizon has the biggest coverage zone of all the carriers, and the most people. Putting a phone on Verizon is gaining access to a huge customer base. Plus by partnering with the carrier you get a huge group of salespeople that are now trying to push your product to every customer who comes in.

 

[Rxpert83]

You also pay the most for that speed. And many Americans simply aren't willing to pay that no matter has w good the coverage and speeds are.

Myself included

 

[Bearcats]

You also pay the most for that speed. And many Americans simply aren't willing to pay that no matter has w good the coverage and speeds are.

Myself included

Yeah, its not worth it really. I would rather spend my money on good equipment versus being able to download faster.

 

[AntimonyER]

You also pay the most for that speed. And many Americans simply aren't willing to pay that no matter has w good the coverage and speeds are.

Myself included

Yeah, I wish it were a speed option for me. There is no other quality carrier that covers both my town where I live and where I work (and all areas in-between). So its a choice between Verizon and dead zones.

 

[victek]

you see what Samsung did, they sold 30 million S3 phones in one quarter, and it was available to all carriers in the US and Europe

We don't really know why the DNA is exclusively for Verizon, do we? Regarding battery size and internal memory note that the Moto Maxx and the SG3 32 GB both sell for a higher price (with contract) than the DNA. This looks like a great phone at the $200 price point, but it seems like compromises had to made to get there.

 

[TrueMetalGeek]

I don't know how people claim to get a day or LONGER on a Rezound, etc. HA HA!
My T-bolt sucked the battery prompting me to immediately get the extended battery and of course so does the Rezound.

I have an extended 2800 in my Rezound and it will be DEAD before I leave work if I do not charge it at lunchtime.

Granted I am updating Facebook every second I get and I often stream music and some youtube with it. (I use about 10 Gig of data a month).

The DNA is a quad core. I doubt the processor will use equal or less power.
And the screen is a tad bigger.

It's such a bummer that it can't take a larger battery.

Although I wouldn't mind using an mobile and compact external battery pack to top it off every now and then. I've been meaning to get one of those anyway or make one.

10 Gigs of usable space is tight. I dunno why it only comes with such low capacity.
Both my T-Bold and Rezound shipped with 32 Gig card plus internal storage.

 

[TrueMetalGeek]

I'm torn between the DNA and the Note 2 still.

The Note 2 with that HUGE battery will likely go all day on that AMOLED display.

I am almost hoping we find out that the DNA not having a memory slot is bad info.

Sadly HTC doesn't have the DNA on their official website yet.

 

[carynis1doll]

I may be way behind but is it possible to put music and movies on a "travel drive" with a cord adaptor and play that through this device

 

[Rxpert83]

Yes on most nexus devices. Its going to depend on developer support for this one

 

[rivera02]

I may be way behind but is it possible to put music and movies on a "travel drive" with a cord adaptor and play that through this device

I believe you had to root to be able to do this on previous HTC phones (one x.) As far as i know, Samsung is the only manufacturer that supports this out of the box

 

[red66charger]

The Note has a user replaceable battery, the DNA not. On the Note once your battery drains, all you do is OPEN the back and pop in a nice fresh battery, and off you go. An extra battery in the pocket will not weight any one down.

The Note also is a Samsung. What good is having 4G when your device can't stay connected to the network?

 

[EarlyMon]

Let's just come to grips with it. Not every Android phone is going to fit everyone. That's why there are 1000 Android phones. If this was some kind of flagship phone like the iPhone, then you can complain that it doesn't suit your every need because it's your only option. In this case, the phone will suit the needs of some and not others. Fortunately you have other options. It may suck. I like this phone too, but I use 11 GB without even trying and no Unlimited data plan means cloud storage is not a suitable alternative.

I love the way you think.

Android is all about choice.

For many people, not all and no guesses on percentages, this will be the perfect choice. Others will find their perfect choices instead of this one.

My thoughts -

On the Verizon exclusive: VZW missed out on the One X, so now they have the DNA, a big upgrade in many ways. Next year comes Mobile World Congress 2013 and the new batch based on this platform that other carriers will offer. Verizon customers play front of line on leapfrog now, in six months, it's the next revision.

Smartphone releases are a game of leapfrog.

How about the SGS3 vs the DNA? See: leapfrog, comma, two lines depending on which cutting edge features.

How about the Note 2 vs the DNA? See: Android is all about choice, comma, some people can't abide a big size, some can't abide no sd card.

How about all of the things that they left off? See: Before you know it, we'll all carry quad cores with 1080p displays, but until then, this is the first one. And first ones are for early adopters. When the rest of us catch up with other models with more features, when we swoon over the base features, the early adopters will just nod and smile. From audio to HDTV to smartphones, it has been and will always be that way.

How about how HTC is going out of business not listening to people? HTC had taken hits from Apple litigation scaring the market (both stock market and consumers). HTC just signed a 10-year pact with Apple to end that. Did they not listen to people or did they respond to pressure under duress? Your guess is as good as mine. But I note with interest that we are talking about the maker of the very first Android phone here.

My opinion?

Android is all about choice.

 

[NightAngel79]

I believe you had to root to be able to do this on previous HTC phones (one x.) As far as i know, Samsung is the only manufacturer that supports this out of the box

I was told a usb otg (think that is what that is called) would work out of the box. May buy one and test, they are pretty cheap

 

[Dreamliner]

I just picked up a RAZR MAXX HD yesterday, I wish the screen was LCD and the buttons were off screen, but I love having 75GB of music.

Battery life is pretty great too.

 

[TangledThorns]

I'm really hoping the 16Gb memory won't be an issue for me. I have a 16Gb microSD card in my DINC1 with 8 two hour plus long movies on it. Each film was compressed from DVD to about 1Gb using Hand Brake. They look good on the DINC1 though I wonder how they'll look on the DNA. I may just end up recompressing my original film to about 2 to 3Gb size.

 

[Bearcats]

I'm really hoping the 16Gb memory won't be an issue for me. I have a 16Gb microSD card in my DINC1 with 8 two hour plus long movies on it. Each film was compressed from DVD to about 1Gb using Hand Brake. They look good on the DINC1 though I wonder how they'll look on the DNA. I may just end up recompressing my original film to about 2 to 3Gb size.

Let us know as that is a like to like for me. However, showing how little I store on my Dinc, I only have a 2GB SD card in it...I am an itty bitty user compared to some of you folks! :smokingsomb:

I would like to have a movie or two (no need for more than that) stored when I take flights overseas.

 

[mush10]

I was told a usb otg (think that is what that is called) would work out of the box. May buy one and test, they are pretty cheap

I have never tried storing movies on usb when I travel, but the idea is enough to think this device could be a fit if battery holds up decently.

 

[DroidL]

As for battery size...

I had the original Droid inc, great phone but battery life life wicked and I felt tethered to a charger.

Got an HTC Thunderbolt another great phone, but once again it burns through the battery. Extended battery is unwieldy.

Got an HTC Rezound and it was a little battery on battery but yet another great phone saddled with a tiny battery. Got the extended battery and have been pretty happy but started looking at the DNA and first spec I look to is a non removable battery that is freaking tiny. So there is no extended battery option.

If there is anyone here that thinks this battery is going to get then till 5 ther are f'ing delusional. They will be lucky to see noon with this s reen and a quad core chip.

So no tests needed, I love HTC phones but unless they directly address the battery issues I am done. Now looking at a note 2