You haven't let me down. You busted your butt on this thing! Besides, I have a digital camera which is way better quality than the Triumph's camera. I will try and learn C++ in my free time as well, if that helps. Hell, you were one of the only ones that gave a damn about this device. Motorola didn't care. You did! We should all get you a Christmas gift for all your hard work! I don't know what, but at least we can all say thank you. You can always come back to this thing later. And think of yourself if you must learn C++. Maybe you can use that to expand your career in real life. You don't really have to commit more to this phone if you are stressed, but maintenance by repo syncing once a month would be appreciated. Also, keep in touch with the rest of MTDEV. It's your life, code only when it is enjoyable. You clearly cannot enjoy coding now since you are obsessed with fixing the camera. Hone your skills in coding, take some breaks, and come back later (if you want). You are once again a workaholic. Spend some time with your family, spend some time alone, whatever, just give the Triumph a break for a little while before you crash! You are more important than a stupid rebranded Motocrap phone! You decide if, when, and how you can fix it. I know way less about coding than you do, so don't feel bad. I do suggest you learn C++, but learn it not just for this damned phone, but learn it for yourself. Learn it for your job, financial security, and your future. Don't bother if you grant no benefits from it until you've taken a break. g60madman>stupid Triumph