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ocnbrze

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  • May 13, 2010
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    hey guys,
    so i am getting kind of bored with my laptop and wanted to do something different. i was thinking of upgrading my laptop form windows 7 to windows 8 and have it partitioned to have ubuntu on it as well.

    i was going to use this guide:
    Dual boot Windows 8 and Ubuntu 12.04: My method

    i just want to verify this will work. or if somebody else has a better suggestion on how to do it. any help would be greatly appreciated.

    thanx guys.
     
    The only way windows 8 would be any good is on a tablet or that sweet tablet/laptop thing with the swivel screen. It's way too cumbersome on a pc with using the mouse as the selector.

    Plus you can't have more that one Window open at a time. That's ******ed. The best you can do is fill up 1/3 with one program and 2/3 with the other. No more than that.

    It's like Microsoft takes a step backward with every other os release. I'll wait for Windows 9 as that will be what windows 8 should have been. Just like Windows 7, which I love btw
     
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    hey guys,
    i really appreciate your guys opinion on windows 8 and i understand that a lot of people do not like it, but i'm not one of them. there are a few windows 8 threads there that you can post your opinions about it there. i actually like windows 8 from what i have been playing with. i just want something different.

    the reason why i started this thread was to see if there are other options as to how to partition the computer to get ubuntu installed along side windows 8. i have no clue on ubuntu and wanted to see what that is like as well.

    so if anybody can verify that the guide i linked to will work or not, or if you have a better way of doing it, please let me know.
     
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    a few questions first

    how comfortable are you partitioning your drive is it something you feel comfortable doing? My personal choice is to make a /boot a / "root" and a /swap and finally /home do you feel comfortable making that many partitions with the given partitioning tool? all my partitions are ext4 as I have no winblows to share with what partition tables would you use?

    Have you ever installed Ubuntu? or any Linux?

    Are you very comfortable at the keyboard?

    Last as far as a method of doing so My advice is to BACKUP EVERYTHING then try following the steps print it out if you need to. always install windows first as it is much easier for grub to find the windows partition than it is to find the linux partition in windows.

    When dual booting I first backup everything then I format the complete drive "Just Personal Preference" once done I then install windows and then I go for the Linux. I don't update or install anything else with windows until I'm done that way if there is an issue I don't have hours and hours into something I may possibly have to take back down. I then follow the instructions to the installer and when I have to partition the disk I create my scheme and let it go once it is all installed I shutdown and boot to both windows and Linux if successful then I start updating and installing the apps I need. If you need any help just pm me
     
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    a few questions first

    how comfortable are you partitioning your drive is it something you feel comfortable doing? My personal choice is to make a /boot a / "root" and a /swap and finally /home do you feel comfortable making that many partitions with the given partitioning tool? all my partitions are ext4 as I have no winblows to share with what partition tables would you use?

    Have you ever installed Ubuntu? or any Linux?

    Are you very comfortable at the keyboard?

    Last as far as a method of doing so My advice is to BACKUP EVERYTHING then try following the steps print it out if you need to. always install windows first as it is much easier for grub to find the windows partition than it is to find the linux partition in windows.

    When dual booting I first backup everything then I format the complete drive "Just Personal Preference" once done I then install windows and then I go for the Linux. I don't update or install anything else with windows until I'm done that way if there is an issue I don't have hours and hours into something I may possibly have to take back down. I then follow the instructions to the installer and when I have to partition the disk I create my scheme and let it go once it is all installed I shutdown and boot to both windows and Linux if successful then I start updating and installing the apps I need. If you need any help just pm me

    thanx argedion. yeah i just started to back everything up and cleaning my computer. and no i have no idea about partitioning the computer. i can partition my sd card with no problem. but a pc is another thing. i'm just doing some research and trying to learn before i do this.

    and other then doing a live cd for ubuntu, i have never installed ubuntu on my computer.

    so do you think the guide i mentioned in the op would work? or do you have a better way? do i need any other programs to do this?

    and i do plan on installing windows 8 first and then partition and install ubuntu.
     
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    What I've always done is, depending on size of hard drive, is partition the drive first, half & half unless you have like 200gb+ size drive. Then I install windows and choose the first partition and leave the rest blank. When time to install Ubuntu, it should pick up the empty partition and choose to install it there. The Grub bootloader will pick up Windows and include it to boot screen option.

    Also when it comes time to Ubuntu install, you can create a third partition for /home, then if you ever need to reinstall Ubuntu or any other Linux, your /home data will still be intact.

    Just to add to what argedion said.
     
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    Here's my question: how comfortable are you with reinstalling windows? Do you have the windows 8 cd? Or was your manufacturer cheap about it and only provided a recovery partition. If you're the latter, you might want to hold off, whereas on the former you should be fine. Likewise, do you have a way of backing up your media? If not, once again you might not be in a position to go messing around with your hard drive. If you do, or if you can just borrow an external hard drive for a day, then you should be fine.

    With that out of the way, then yes, that tutorial will pretty much do it- It's what I would do at least.

    How large do you want your partition for ubuntu to be? Remember, you can easily access your windows partitions (with all your documents, media, etc on it) easily from ubuntu, but you'll have a little more difficulty accessing your linux partitions on windows (you'll need to install a program to read them).

    Generally speaking

    256-512mb for /boot
    10-20 GB for / (root )
    1x-2x your ram for swap
    and as much as you need for /home

    Swap and / (also known as root) is required- / is the actual system with everything in it, and not having any swap can make your computer unstable. If you don't set a specific partition for boot or home, it will just default and install it into the partition you set for root.

    As for learning more about Ubuntu: if you want really. For me I learn best hands on- just jump into it and learn. Ubuntu might not be everyone's favorite, but it's easy to learn and it does a lot for you. If you're a root user with your android, or if you've hung around XDA any bit, then you should have no trouble (used to searching up everything yourself on google, what root does).

    Of course you could be in a hick if you mess up, which is why I wanted to make sure you could recover your PC in my first garble of text :)
     
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    If you want to try out Ubuntu all you have to do is go to the website WWW.Ubuntu.com and download the iso. Burn it to DVD and pop it in. There's the option on the disk to boot into a live CD without installing it to your HDD. This helps to see if all your preifials will work properly (sometimes Ubuntu has a problem with video drivers). And play around with it. U won't be disappointed in Ubuntu!

    One thing I had problems with (not saying you will) is Ethernet. Check out this thread http://androidforums.com/computers/646562-ethernet-problems-in-ubuntu-12-04-a.html.
     
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    If you want to try out Ubuntu all you have to do is go to the website Home | Ubuntu and download the iso. Burn it to DVD and pop it in. There's the option on the disk to boot into a live CD without installing it to your HDD. This helps to see if all your preifials will work properly (sometimes Ubuntu has a problem with video drivers). And play around with it. U won't be disappointed in Ubuntu!

    One thing I had problems with (not saying you will) is Ethernet. Check out this thread http://androidforums.com/computers/646562-ethernet-problems-in-ubuntu-12-04-a.html.

    yep the drive is partitioned now and i have a live cd setup. i just need to spend some time with my computer which i do not always have with it being the holiday season and work......:(
     
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    yep the drive is partitioned now and i have a live cd setup. i just need to spend some time with my computer which i do not always have with it being the holiday season and work......:(

    I wouldn't recommend using a live cd for entirely too long tho... once you start messing with stuff and learning and saving stuff (pics and the alike) all that will be lost if your pc gets shut down. The live cd runs in memory and your home directory I believe is in memory also until you install it to your hdd. So lets say you install chrome in a live cd. Once you shutdown and restart the live cd chrome is gone...
     
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    Another way to install without it interfering with Win8 is install it to a virtualbox.

    https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads

    You may can try it first if you have a big enough hard drive. I'm not certain how big W8 takes to install. I would think around 20gb is big enough.

    I know you've already created a partition but you can try this first. Just a thought!
     
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    I wouldn't recommend using a live cd for entirely too long tho... once you start messing with stuff and learning and saving stuff (pics and the alike) all that will be lost if your pc gets shut down. The live cd runs in memory and your home directory I believe is in memory also until you install it to your hdd. So lets say you install chrome in a live cd. Once you shutdown and restart the live cd chrome is gone...

    yeah i understand that. it is just to get my self comfortable with the linux. hopefully after xmas or maybe sooner i can devote more time actually to installing Ubuntu into the empty partition.
     
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    Another way to install without it interfering with Win8 is install it to a virtualbox.

    https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads

    You may can try it first if you have a big enough hard drive. I'm not certain how big W8 takes to install. I would think around 20gb is big enough.

    I know you've already created a partition but you can try this first. Just a thought!

    hmmmmm gonna look into that, THNAX!!!!
     
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    Virtualbox is great -- I would also note that Ubuntu is not the only Linux in town.

    Many use Linux Mint (Ubuntu fork).
    Debian is also good (Ubuntu parent I think)
    Fedora (Redhat) also has a method for dual booting with win 8

    Also, from what I understand -- if you play to do AOSP/AOKP stuff then you dont want the latest Ubuntu -- rather you will want Ubuntu LTS (10.04)

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