Hacking Subforum Request

[EarlyMon]

...with maybe a root only caveat

Respectfully disagree.

People don't know that they can make and share user-installable Widgetsoids zip packages for their sd cards - no root required.

Backup/restore tricks using adb, simple to us rooters, no root required (and just use our mini-SDK, no need for a big footprint SDK to get that done).

That thing we've done so often that we forget it's like science to newcomers - where to put your own custom ringtones on your sd card - no root required.

[How-to] use system monitors like GSAM Battery Monitor to after apps holding wakelocks, or many similar others - no root required.

That's 4 off the top of my head, no doubt there are many others.

PS - if the idea of putting it under Android Discussion succeeds, then all other forums there begin with "Android" - Android Lounge, Android Themes, Android Media - so I think we want the shortest, catchiest name if we're to succeed there - maybe.

An init.d script that alters oom values can be valid against any rom, any devie with root and init.d support. Why have 100 duplicate threads or a missing thread if someone hasn't created it for that atr?!

Many like the V6 SuperCharger for that - and every day, people ask the same three questions across the forums - how do I install it, what do these options mean, and why do I need to change services.jar for ICS?

 

[SUroot]

Respectfully disagree.

People don't know that they can make and share user-installable Widgetsoids zip packages for their sd cards - no root required.

Backup/restore tricks using adb, simple to us rooters, no root required (and just use our mini-SDK, no need for a big footprint SDK to get that done).

That thing we've done so often that we forget it's like science to newcomers - where to put your own custom ringtones on your sd card - no root required.

[How-to] use system monitors like GSAM Battery Monitor to after apps holding wakelocks, or many similar others - no root required.

That's 4 off the top of my head, no doubt there are many others.

I think we're talking at cross purposes. The forum I'm endorsing would not include 1, 3 or 4. 2, actually I've only had 3 android devices but you need su in adb to access /data or /system on those devices.

So yeah if you're disagreeing because you have a better understanding of what is proposed, that's fine because actually I'm not interested anyway and withdraw my suggestion.

The forum I thought I was endorsing would need a descriptive name, not a catchy one. I was thinking "system mods, scripts and hacks (root only)" rather than "basic stuff for everyone".

If we're suggesting the latter, I'll start a new thread suggesting the former because I endorse that

 

[EarlyMon]

I think we're talking at cross purposes. The forum I'm endorsing would not include 1, 3 or 4. 2, actually I've only had 3 android devices but you need su in adb to access /data or /system on those devices.

adb pull /mnt/sdcard backup-dir

was what I had in mind when I mentioned that.

So yeah if you're disagreeing because you have a better understanding of what is proposed, that's fine because actually I'm not interested anyway and withdraw my suggestion.

The forum I thought I was endorsing would need a descriptive name, not a catchy one. I was thinking "system mods, scripts and hacks (root only)" rather than "basic stuff for everyone".

If we're suggesting the latter, I'll start a new thread suggesting the former because I endorse that

Well, this is why I'm suggesting a top-level forum with sub-forums - because there are several special interests that need serving, that I was hoping could fit under the same umbrella.

System mods, scripts and hacks (root only) - a subforum

User mods and PC scripts (no root required) - a subforum

Sorry if I was unclear on that.

My only disagreement was that we had one community only to serve on this.

And the only point of a catchy name is draw interest to get to the descriptive names - and plus - it was just a suggestion.

 

[SUroot]

Ok gotcha. I'll subscribe to that

 

[Sepero]

I think having it for a top level forum would be great. SUroot, you're absolutely right in what you're saying, and I think everything you've described could go perfectly in a subforum.

I like EarlyMon's idea here, because as we've discussed, modding/hacking/etc can encompass a very large area of topics. And subforums could be more Specialized (nonroot? root? adb? scripts? file/hex-editing? memory editing? roms? more?).

For example, without root a person could write:

• A script that renames all of a users mp3 files as "Artist - Song.mp3"
• Or a script for syncing Pictures on the sdcard with an online account
• Or a guide on installing Python on Android

All of those without any root permissions. The resulting subforums would depend on what is popular, and what is possible.


"Android System Mods and Hacks"

 

[Sepero]

@Rxpert83 & scary alien
Good points about avoiding having the same thing in multiple ATR forums. Things can be consolidated into a single forum. Someone might read a Guide made for ICS devices, and find out it works on their JB device also, but the person may have never read it if not for having a general forum.

There are islands of great information in the ATR sub-forums, and I'm sure there are a few gems in the non-root forums too. Certainly the majority of things would be root related, but there are still a lot lot of things that can be done without root too. Things I can't even imagine. Even running Bash and Nano in a terminal could be done without root access.

Obviously many hidden gems of ATR will never be uncovered, but having this new forum should help prevent good things from being covered up in the future. All great positive stuff here.


"Android System Mods and Hacks"

 

[EarlyMon]

I like that name.

BTW, the Lounge rooting club thread could go nicely into the proposed subforum. It's not a watering hole thread, it's on topic for rooters.

They are already looking to congregate.

 

[argedion]

I have a name if its not to late

Creative Engineering Forum

 

[EarlyMon]

Not enough cow bell, too much engineering.

Android Creative Mods has a nice ring to it though.

 

[SUroot]

I'd still like to see "scripts" represented

 

[scary alien]

I'd still like to see "scripts" represented

Maybe through the prefix system or thread title prefixes could be used for this?

 

[SUroot]

Ooh maybe.

I just meant in the subforum name. I like "Android System mods, scripts and hacks" as a name...

But prefixes would be good. Not sure where to draw the line at system mods though....

[Framework]?

 

[Sepero]

Ok, the Guide that I spoke of for boot scripts has been created. I didn't want to delay it any longer. It currently resides in the ATR for LG Motion 4G. Please transfer it over whenever a general hacking subforum for root users is ready.

http://androidforums.com/motion-4g-...-run-boot-scripts-root-users.html#post5343080

 

[ajdroidx]

I think an "Advanced Android User Area" would be great! A repository where people can talk about the back end of the android system. Yeah, I mean, I can run a custom recovery on my phone and install a rom, but I would love to dive deeper into things, like how to get ahold of the binaries, how to modify them, how to code, etc.

I am for the idea!

 

[sammyz]

Ok, the Guide that I spoke of for boot scripts has been created. I didn't want to delay it any longer. It currently resides in the ATR for LG Motion 4G. Please transfer it over whenever a general hacking subforum for root users is ready.

http://androidforums.com/motion-4g-...-run-boot-scripts-root-users.html#post5343080

Is this to be copied over or moved?

 

[Sepero]

Is this to be copied over or moved?

When the time is ready, I recommend it to be moved. It was created with the intention of being for generally any phone.

 

[Phases]

Don't forget, said forum or subforum can have its own subforums or prefix sets to help with all this.

 

[Digital Controller]

I really like this idea, I do think some stickies would need to be made with a few disclaimers, as i saw mentioned above, about warning users about using these hacks, scripts, mods, etc on their devices.

I definitely like the idea of 2 subforums, one consisting of mods for rooted users and one for mods for unrooted users.

Are we still debating on putting this under Android Development or making an entirely new forum from it?

Because if anything I would suggest to put it under that then creating two separate sub forums beneath it, making the topics what i stated earlier in my post.

Prefixes would also be a good idea, maybe also implementing, what i saw earlier, being a template that the OP fills out once posting his/her script or mod, etc....something like what was mentioned about which device(s) it will work on and/or necessary version of Android.

 

[SUroot]

Where did we go with this?

 

[EarlyMon]

Where did we go with this?

We need to sort a name acceptable to everyone.

 

[SUroot]

Ok, my suggestion is:

"Android System mods, scripts and hacks"

Lets get moving people

 

[Sepero]

Gosh, I was thinking, "I don't remember typing that?". Then I see SURoot and I share the same user icon

 

[SUroot]

Gosh, I was thinking, "I don't remember typing that?". Then I see SURoot and I share the same user icon

Yep. I have the same problem. Had this avatar for over a year so its well conditioned in to my thread-review behaviour now

 

[argedion]

I want my forum dagnabit

 

[EarlyMon]

We got a food subforum.