Wifi and 3G

[andrizoid]

iv'e noticed when i turn on wifi, my 3G icon disappears. does this mean that wifi "overrides" 3G? or when i turn on wifi are both of them being used?
i would like to use the wifi trick to keep my battery going a little longer, but i want to make sure that both aren't running and eating away at my battery.

and yes i could just put a mobile network toggle on my homescreen and use that, but im using three screens on helix and every bt of it is taken up my something i need and i would rather not have to take everything off and add another screen just to put a single toggle.

thanks in advance
-andrizoid out

 

[raphifix]

iv'e noticed when i turn on wifi, my 3G icon disappears. does this mean that wifi "overrides" 3G? or when i turn on wifi are both of them being used?
i would like to use the wifi trick to keep my battery going a little longer, but i want to make sure that both aren't running and eating away at my battery.

and yes i could just put a mobile network toggle on my homescreen and use that, but im using three screens on helix and every bt of it is taken up my something i need and i would rather not have to take everything off and add another screen just to put a single toggle.

thanks in advance
-andrizoid out

You are correct: when Wifi is on, 3G is turned off. I've had both toggles on my homescreen, and when I turn wifi on, the 3G goes off.

 

[andrizoid]

You are correct: when Wifi is on, 3G is turned off. I've had both toggles on my homescreen, and when I turn wifi on, the 3G goes off.

awesome. thanks

 

[WilCIWS]

So which one is easier on the battery? If wifi is nicer, than I will just use that at home, since my cable internet is prolly faster than 3G... Thanks for clearing it up tho!

 

[cgh]

So which one is easier on the battery? If wifi is nicer, than I will just use that at home, since my cable internet is prolly faster than 3G... Thanks for clearing it up tho!

I'm pretty sure wifi uses quite a bit more battery than 3g. Don't quote me though... I could be wrong.

 

[AndroidFantic]

Hey guys do you know if the eris does a N type connection or just A+B+G thanks for your answers in advance

 

[andrizoid]

I'm pretty sure wifi uses quite a bit more battery than 3g. Don't quote me though... I could be wrong.

nope. surprisingly wifi is easier on the battery.

 

[cgh]

nope. surprisingly wifi is easier on the battery.

Really? I would have never thought that was the case... I always leave mine on, regardless, because it's faster. I guess I'm just thinking about laptops and how leaving wifi on eats battery.

 

[doogald]

Hey guys do you know if the eris does a N type connection or just A+B+G thanks for your answers in advance

802.11 b/g only. No a, no n.

 

[LiverpoolsNo9]

802.11 b/g only. No a, no n.

N would have been nice eh.

 

[cgh]

802.11 b/g only. No a, no n.

I wonder why... N will be the standard in not that long. The difference between an N and a G router is only like 30 bucks now. I'd like to see the ability to go dual band with it too.

 

[andrizoid]

Really? I would have never thought that was the case... I always leave mine on, regardless, because it's faster. I guess I'm just thinking about laptops and how leaving wifi on eats battery.

thats because there is nothing running behind it. its either wifi or nothing, on the phone its 3G or wifi.

multiple posts on wifi being less of a battery hog than 3G

 

[BlueDC2]

If your screens are full you can add up to 7 on helix, just fyi...

 

[andrizoid]

ya but that also means i have to delete everything off before i add another screen, and then put it all back on. too much hassle.

 

[Blrfl]

I wonder why... N will be the standard in not that long. The difference between an N and a G router is only like 30 bucks now. I'd like to see the ability to go dual band with it too.

The chipset in the Eris would have been well into design about the time the WiFi Alliance just starting the N Draft 2.0 certification program, and long before N was ratified and released (late 2009). It also isn't fast enough for an application to saturate a G link, much less one with N, so there wouldn't have been any good reason to include it.

--Mark

 

[Tamasabian]

nope. surprisingly wifi is easier on the battery.

Awesome. I was wondering about this too. Thanks Andy

 

[andrizoid]

The chipset in the Eris would have been well into design about the time the WiFi Alliance just starting the N Draft 2.0 certification program, and long before N was ratified and released (late 2009). It also isn't fast enough for an application to saturate a G link, much less one with N, so there wouldn't have been any good reason to include it.

--Mark

what he said...

 

[cgh]

The chipset in the Eris would have been well into design about the time the WiFi Alliance just starting the N Draft 2.0 certification program, and long before N was ratified and released (late 2009). It also isn't fast enough for an application to saturate a G link, much less one with N, so there wouldn't have been any good reason to include it.

--Mark

Thanks, makes quite a bit of sense (no pun, wow I'm a nerd.) Still helps having an N router though, I can pick it up inside and outside of the house.

 

[lgldrgdlr]

You are correct: when Wifi is on, 3G is turned off. I've had both toggles on my homescreen, and when I turn wifi on, the 3G goes off.

So then does your 3G come back on automatically when you turn wifi off? I also have both toggles on my homescreen and 3G does not go off when Wifi is on. They are both currently on, and I only have the Wifi icon at the top.

 

[cgh]

So then does your 3G come back on automatically when you turn wifi off? I also have both toggles on my homescreen and 3G does not go off when Wifi is on. They are both currently on, and I only have the Wifi icon at the top.

The toggle is still on, so 3g will take over once you are out of range of wifi or if you turn off the wifi... I wouldn't want to have to toggle 3g on every time I couldn't get wifi.

 

[lgldrgdlr]

Yeah, but raphifix said his 3G toggle goes off when his wifi is on, in which case would require the 3G to be toggled back on every time.

 

[grvthang]

my 3g toggle stays on when my wi-fi is on (although the 3g notification goes off).

 

[doogald]

If you leave mobile networking on, and are connected to a WiFi network, the phone will use WiFi for all networking and 3G goes into standby. As soon as you leave WiFi service, the 3G radio takes over networking and becomes active. If you go into Settings->Wireless controls and turn off WiFi, the Mobile Network switches from "Standby for connecting to mobile network" to "Connected".