Announcing the One Google Edition - interested?

[treb1797]

HTC One

 

[Hadron]

If they make it 64GB and available outside the States, yes. I'm not betting on either though.

Otherwise, it will at least give a good base for AOSP ROMs

 

[chong67]

Did you read this too:

HTC One Google Edition to be offered in very limited quantities, report says | Android Atlas - CNET Reviews

Are they doing this to make the price HIGH ?

That is not fair.

At $600 its high. I wonder what the Nexus 5 price would be.

The Nexus 4 price never came down. Will this One Google Edition stay at this price?

 

[LoyalServant]

God it's tempting... it really is.

 

[Hadron]

Did you read this too:

HTC One Google Edition to be offered in very limited quantities, report says | Android Atlas - CNET Reviews

Are they doing this to make the price HIGH ?

That is not fair.

At $600 its high. I wonder what the Nexus 5 price would be.

The Nexus 4 price never came down. Will this One Google Edition stay at this price?

$600 is about the going rate SIM-free and off-contract. The dev edition is $650, but that's also 64GB.

The subsidy system distorts perception of prices. With the standard manufacturers margins that's the price of these things. The N4 was unusual in that it was sold at a much lower margin, but it's too much of a niche to have really shaken things up. Now if Moto are serious about lower margins as they said yesterday that might have more effect, but it will take time. But right now this *isn't* a high price, it's the price they are all sold at, just that it's normally hidden in the contract charges.

 

[Rxpert83]

And this isn't a nexus device, so you can't really compare it to previous nexiii

Comparing it to manufacturers flagship phones this is right in line

 

[chong67]

I have experience with stock android as I have the Nexus 4 as well as HTC phones from the past.

I didnt like the top Google search thing and I thought the icon are too big. Hence I get the Nova launcher and that solves everything.

With the HTC Sense, you get all this done for you. You get notifications on your lock screen, stock Android cant do this.

Beats audio is included in this stock. I read about camera problems with stock. This is yet to be discovered.

And there is Blink feed. Stock dont have.

Oh and stock android the hotspot work.

HTC would super tweak their android to work on their phone. Yes you get faster update with stock. It is ok if I get a slower update.

So right now, I am split on getting the stock or a HTC phone.

 

[EarlyMon]

And this isn't a nexus device, so you can't really compare it to previous nexiii

Comparing it to manufacturers flagship phones this is right in line

It's sold by Google, it's stock Android and it's updated by Google - besides the name, and like the SGS4 Google Edition - how is this not a Nexus?

PS to treb - congrats on being FP in yet another new forum! arty:

 

[marctronixx]

Sprint will not activate this on their network right?

 

[EarlyMon]

Sprint will not activate this on their network right?

Right.

According to Phandroid, this is ATT and T-Mobile only, but does support LTE for both of those -

Google officially unveils Nexus-like HTC One, coming June 26th for $599

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(recycling one of my posts from the Lounge)

HTC One Nexus Experience Clarifications: IR Blaster Disabled, No HTC Camera Features, And No Beats Audio Switch

So.

Compared to the HTC One standard edition - it's a loser.

Loses the IR feature, loses Zoe, loses the Beats switch (and I don't know what exec they talked to, but Beats threads through the HTC kernel, not sure how they think it will just magically be always-on) and loses the FM radio.

Do. Not. Want.

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Anandtech confirms - like the HTC One Developer Edition - this is the ATT version, so no AWS WCDMA for T-Mobile users.

AnandTech | HTC One with Nexus Experience Announced

 

[sean76]

Right.

According to Phandroid, this is ATT and T-Mobile only, but does support LTE for both of those -

Google officially unveils Nexus-like HTC One, coming June 26th for $599

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(recycling one of my posts from the Lounge)



So.

Compared to the HTC One standard edition - it's a loser.

Loses the IR feature, loses Zoe, loses the Beats switch (and I don't know what exec they talked to, but Beats threads through the HTC kernel, not sure how they think it will just magically be always-on) and loses the FM radio.

Do. Not. Want.

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Anandtech confirms - like the HTC One Developer Edition - this is the ATT version, so no AWS WCDMA for T-Mobile users.

AnandTech | HTC One with Nexus Experience Announced

Losing all the above features is a deff no go for me! Going to try my luck with the S4 Google varient.

 

[KOLIO]

No I/R Blaster/ZOE/FM Radih well,sounded good for about an hour.

Now this on the other hand,could be quite interesting if all the specs pan out:

The HTC Phablet - TheUnlockr

 

[Bnice]

I think the beats audio will still be there.

 

[Rxpert83]

Nothing proprietary is ever going to be in these Google editions.

HTC and samsung aren't going to give their code to the other side to use

 

[sean76]

Nothing proprietary is ever going to be in these Google editions.

HTC and samsung aren't going to give their code to the other side to use

Agreed!

IMO the GS4 is just going to be an all around better phone because of the things that will be left out of the ONE.

My number #1 reason for going with the S4 will be the camera, there is no way to compare the Samsung's 13 megapixel shooter against the ONE's stripped down 4 megapixel shooter...No way, no how! And just the lacking of the ZOE feature is enough to turn me away.

Yes we all know the Hardware is top notch on the ONE, especially when compared to the S4. But I'll make due with the fact that the screen is really nice on the S4, the addition of an SD card slot for my pics, nice and lite form factor, and of course the kick ass camera. Combine that with stock android and you pretty much have a top of the line nexus.

Sadly to me the Google version of the ONE is just going to be a severely stripped down version of itself.

 

[Rxpert83]

Agreed!

IMO the GS4 is just going to be an all around better phone because of the things that will be left out of the ONE.

My number #1 reason for going with the S4 will be the camera, there is no way to compare the Samsung's 13 megapixel shooter against the ONE's stripped down 4 megapixel shooter...No way, no how! And just the lacking of the ZOE feature is enough to turn me away.

Yes we all know the Hardware is top notch on the ONE, especially when compared to the S4. But I'll make due with the fact that the screen is really nice on the S4, the addition of an SD card slot for my pics, nice and lite form factor, and of course the kick ass camera. Combine that with stock android and you pretty much have a top of the line nexus.

Sadly to me the Google version of the ONE is just going to be a severely stripped down version of itself.

You cant just look at MP and say the S4s camera is automatically better. Unfortunately, it isn't nearly that simple.

As far as straight up brand preference...I have the last generation flagships from both manufacturers (EVO lte and s3). I prefer htc's build quality, camera, and screen (really don't like AMOLED). Throw in the boom sound speakers and the one has me drooling.

I personally wouldn't be buy either of them right now, though. I'd wait for the next iteration of android (4.3) and see if they make some leaps and bounds in camera software like they said they'd work on. Couple that with a new nexus and the moto x in the next few months and its worth the wait to see all the cards laid out

 

[sean76]

You cant just look at MP and say the S4s camera is automatically better. Unfortunately, it isn't nearly that simple.

As far as straight up brand preference...I have the last generation flagships from both manufacturers (EVO lte and s3). I prefer htc's build quality, camera, and screen (really don't like AMOLED). Throw in the boom sound speakers and the one has me drooling.

I personally wouldn't be buy either of them right now, though. I'd wait for the next iteration of android (4.3) and see if they make some leaps and bounds in camera software like they said they'd work on. Couple that with a new nexus and the moto x in the next few months and its worth the wait to see all the cards laid out

I'm not just looking at Megapixels, I'm looking at Samsungs shooter vs The HTC ONE's shooter without any software tweaks.

I happen to really like Samsungs cameras on they're phones. My Fascinate had a very good camera, as did my Droid Charge, S2 & S3.

I don't get sucked into the megapixel wars at all, however the S4's shooter to me is top of the line! IMO it's better then the ONE's camera. And to really seal the deal with this whole Google variant thing is that the ONE's camera will be without alot of the punch it was getting from Sense and HTC.

Lets save the final verdict for when they can go head to head in a few weeks though...Should be a nice throw down!

 

[kylecummins]

Just read this on my blinkfeed, interesting move if true

@TalkAndroid
HTC may give current One owners a chance at having AOSP too
HTC may give current One owners a chance at having AOSP too | TalkAndroid.com

 

[EarlyMon]

I've been told that Google, like HTC, does not give a selection for jpeg quality (compression level).

Higher jpeg compression = better use of pictures for texting and social media = lower details and more compression artifacts (regardless of megapixels).

And higher jpeg compression has been HTC's ImageSense crime of the century.

If Google doesn't fix it, then check out https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.moblynx.camerajbplus

And if you go with the SGS4 GE, same deal.

Everyone's talking about details, cropping, pixels, etc etc, but overlooking that most of what's compared between cameras isn't megapixels, it's compression.

 

[sean76]

I've been told that Google, like HTC, does not give a selection for jpeg quality (compression level).

Higher jpeg compression = better use of pictures for texting and social media = lower details and more compression artifacts (regardless of megapixels).

And higher jpeg compression has been HTC's ImageSense crime of the century.

If Google doesn't fix it, then check out https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.moblynx.camerajbplus

And if you go with the SGS4 GE, same deal.

Everyone's talking about details, cropping, pixels, etc etc, but overlooking that most of what's compared between cameras isn't megapixels, it's compression.

I know you got this stuff down to a science Early!

Which Google edition Phone In your opinion will offer the better Shooter?

 

[EarlyMon]

I know you got this stuff down to a science Early!

Which Google edition Phone In your opinion will offer the better Shooter?

Mighty tough call.

This cat is offering to try that same camera app on both phones (ought not matter that they're not the GE versions) and report back -

http://androidforums.com/device-carrier-comparisons/716640-iphone-4s-htc-one-sgs4.html

Here's a recycle of a bit of one of my earlier posts comparing some numbers on the two cameras, under hide tags so those not interested can skip over -

Spoiler

Here are the real numbers involved -

Lens specs: One vs. SGS4
focal length: 3.82 mm vs. 4.235 mm
aperature: F/2.0 vs. F/2.2
sensor diameter: 1/3.2"(*) vs. 1/3.06"

(* web articles vary as to whether the One sensor is 1/3" or 1/3.2" sensor)

Given that the equation for lens diameter = focal_length/F_number, we get:

One diameter: 1.91 mm (3.82/2.0)
SGS4 diameter: 1.925 mm (4.235/2.2)

The SGS4 lens is .015 mm larger in diameter than the One - that's much less than the width of a human hair (that's 0.100 mm).

But the SGS4 lets in less light (bigger F-stop) onto the same or slightly larger sensor (matters for total area for gathering light).

If you believe in optical relationships, the One is the clear winner, it's letting in more light from the same-sized lens.

But - those are numbers.

The lens matters. The sensor's rated electrical noise matters.

 

[MartinS]

Wow, these products are released tomorrow (and in the UK I hope) and I see absolutely nothing about them anywhere!

There is no marketing, no Play Store "Coming Soon" banners (unless you have them in the US?) and very little activity in the forums.

I will still look to getting an HTC One NE but help, support and chat looks like it will be limited.

 

[Hadron]

AFAIK these are US only.

 

[MartinS]

That's the rumour, still haven't actually seen or heard it officially.

 

[EarlyMon]

The offering was said to be initially in the US, implying that it's not going to remain exclusive.

http://blog.htc.com/2013/05/htc-one-google-nexus-experience/?gb25

As for a quiet forum, we'll see - this could be the lull before the storm.

It's certainly likely to be one of the most popular roms for rooters with the original version.