Official EVO Rumors and Speculation thread

[evotitans]

Why Wal-Mart Wants VUDU - PCWorld

Could be kind of irrelevant....BUT, wouldnt Walmart need a strong high speed network to help handle what they are trying to do??? Strong high speed like 4G strong high speed........

 

[billsmed]

I guess I don't know if you're disagreeing or agreeing with my post, but I'll nibble.

Do you have a Walmart every 2 miles in the town you live in?

Of course not, but their signals could interact with other WiMAX signals to form those arrays I mentioned. Right? BTW, I'm not disagreeing with what you said. Just adding some input.

 

[cary328is]

Wow a lot of Walmart talk. I don't personally like Walmart's treatment of their employees (including factory employees) and how they claim "Made in USA" when they exploit factory workers in Asian countries to stamp that tag, but whatever...more Wimax towers the better. I'd just rather have the towers on top of every starbucks or MacDonalds - LOL try that for signal strength

 

[SoFLO]

The closest Walmart to me is 8.32 miles away

 

[burgertime]

Why Wal-Mart Wants VUDU - PCWorld

Could be kind of irrelevant....BUT, wouldnt Walmart need a strong high speed network to help handle what they are trying to do??? Strong high speed like 4G strong high speed........

VUDU was already set up. So technically, Wal-Mart would only need to modify the infrastructure to handle more data. 4g would really have nothing to do with that.

That being said it would make total sense to bundle some sort of VUDU service with Clearwire as part of the deal.

 

[billsmed]

Wow a lot of Walmart talk. I don't personally like Walmart's treatment of their employees (including factory employees) and how they claim "Made in USA" when they exploit factory workers in Asian countries to stamp that tag, but whatever...more Wimax towers the better. I'd just rather have the towers on top of every starbucks or MacDonalds - LOL try that for signal strength

Yeah, Jackson started it this morning. Right now, the Wal-Mart thing is a now issue, but it's fun to talk about.

 

[Outrigger]

I am not sure about the Incredible having 8gb of on ram storage. (Personnally that would be odd) at may ship with a 8gb micro sd card (Not sure) I have herd the the EVO will ship with a 8gb micro sd card though. Hope that helps.

Its not 8GB of RAM, its 8GB of onboard storage leaving the microSD slot free for you to add additional storage. this is what the Incredible has as pointed out by a recent review by endgadget. One of the problem is that the android apps can't see this internal storage.

In a somewhat new move for Android phone, HTC has equipped the Incredible with 8GB of internal storage as well as a MicroSD slot which can handle an additional 32GB -- giving you a whopping potential 40GB of space for your goods. We love the idea of a hardwired option for content storage, but HTC has some problems with this implementation. Firstly, many apps currently available in the Android Market which utilize an SD card for offloading data aren't able to see the internal storage at all, which means if you drag some APKs you want to install or want to download some data when you're in an app, you're out of luck. It just simply doesn't see it. This was especially problematic with the NYC Bus & Subway Maps application which requires a download of the train maps, and when we tried to run Nesoid (a popular NES emulator), it not only couldn't find ROMs saved on the phone's storage, but it force closed when we tried to move up a directory! This may not seem like a big deal, but more than once when using the phone we hit this brick wall by not having an SD card present. For the $199 price tag on this thing, it wouldn't have killed HTC or Verizon to throw in even a 2GB card to make the transition easier.

 

[dandm4life]

One thing I have to agree with Steve Jobs with, If you're using a stylus, you're doing it wrong...

You ever tried minimizing a window in the iphone's remote desktop?

 

[evotitans]

VUDU was already set up. So technically, Wal-Mart would only need to modify the infrastructure to handle more data. 4g would really have nothing to do with that.

That being said it would make total sense to bundle some sort of VUDU service with Clearwire as part of the deal.

I hear ya...its all just speculation....the only thing is, Vudu runs 1080p compared to Netflix which doesnt. So why wouldnt Walmart want to get involved with Clearwire to have a stronger network for that kind of streaming?

 

[RiverOfIce]

According to the Intel WiMAX video, the signal is only good for 1/2 to 2 kilometers. That's less than 2 miles, however, existing WiMAX signals can overlap each other to form arrays, which will boost the signal strength.

Yes and no. The closer the towers the faster the connection. To have a connection of 1gbs you need to get 1 station every 2 kilometers.

But to get a 30mbps-70mbps signal, you can have one base station every 50 kilometers. Before you start I have seen this personally, many, many, many times. I was 43 kilometers from the base station getting 50mbps connection.

But in high content areas like New York city, it does take alot of towers to get full 1Gbs coverage. The base stations are less then 500 dollars piece.

For the EVO one every 50 kilometers will due.

LTE will have to do the same thing. But have to triple the amount of base stations. At a cost of thousands of dollars.

 

[drexappeal]

Is anyone else having difficulty in getting vid to play ??

A few people mentioned problems playing the video. CNN has some sort of filter with embeded videos and I couldn't post the link without it automatically converting to embeded video.

 

[evotitans]

Someone needs to come up with some sort of info today.....Walmart should not be our only hot topic right now lol.

 

[KDFusion]

Yes and no. The closer the towers the faster the connection. To have a connection of 1gbs you need to get 1 station every 2 kilometers.

But to get a 30mbps-70mbps signal, you can have one base station every 50 kilometers. Before you start I have seen this personally, many, many, many times. I was 43 kilometers from the base station getting 50mbps connection.

But in high content areas like New York city, it does take alot of towers to get full 1Gbs coverage. The base stations are less then 500 dollars piece.

For the EVO one every 50 kilometers will due.

LTE will have to do the same thing. But have to triple the amount of base stations. At a cost of thousands of dollars.

With that type of information, you would think there would be less of a debate about whether WiMax will be around 4-5 years from now.

 

[billsmed]

Yes and no. The closer the towers the faster the connection. To have a connection of 1gbs you need to get 1 station every 2 kilometers.

But to get a 30mbps-70mbps signal, you can have one base station every 50 kilometers. Before you start I have seen this personally, many, many, many times. I was 43 kilometers from the base station getting 50mbps connection.

But in high content areas like New York city, it does take alot of towers to get full 1Gbs coverage. The base stations are less then 500 dollars piece.

For the EVO one every 50 kilometers will due.

LTE will have to do the same thing. But have to triple the amount of base stations. At a cost of thousands of dollars.

That's one every 31 miles which means the Wal-Mart deal would work for a lot of us.

Someone needs to come up with some sort of info today.....Walmart should not be our only hot topic right now lol.

At least we're not talking about iPhones and iMaxipads.

 

[Orion]

Someone needs to come up with some sort of info today.....Walmart should not be our only hot topic right now lol.

Haha I was about to say the same thing.

 

[drexappeal]

Sprint plans Evo 4G's party for May 12 in New York City | Android Central

Their version doesn't have everything blurred out, and shows "New York, NY".

Just a subtle difference I noticed...so its not like they're just copying from somebody else who broke the news.

Nice. I was hoping someone would go through the different websites to hopefully find one that didn't have the info blurred out.

Part of me is skeptical because of that "First Android phone" typo. And my initial thought on New York City being the event location peeks my curiosity because when I think Walt Disney Pictures, I automatically think Hollywood, CA or Florida.

BUT, the more I think about it, I posted an article recently about the Empire State Building having TowerStream radios added to the top of the building, which are supposed to provide a point-to-point wireless connection using WiMax. Radio transmission image - WiMax at a thousand feet in the Big Apple (photos) - CNET Newshttp://news.cnet.com/2300-1035_3-10003145.html
I posted it in the WiMax thread, but if the event is real and it is in NY, maybe it'll also be the launch of WiMax in NY as well?

 

[neodorian]

One thing I have to agree with Steve Jobs with, If you're using a stylus, you're doing it wrong...

When it comes to phones...maybe, I'm not sure. I miss handwriting recognition and drawing.

On tablets (which he was referring to I think) he was dead wrong. Tablets are perfect for a few things like drawing, drafting, note taking, and other tasks that make excellent use of a stylus or a pen. The thought of giving up pen input on my tablet is unthinkable. If I wanted to interact just by tapping or clicking I would use a laptop. The tablet is all about the pen.

 

[bemis23]

That's one every 31 miles which means the Wal-Mart deal would work for a lot of us.


At least we're not talking about iPhones and iMaxipads.

Unfortunately, signal attenuation (via absorbtion/reflection) is a big problem in the 2.5Ghz band. Foilage (tree leaves, literally) cause a big problem with signal attenuation in this band leaving the more realistic estimates of only 3-5mi/station -especially is less densely packed cities.

E.G. Where I am in Texas I am likely to have spottier coverage due to attenuation & tower density than someone in say a NYC highrise that might have clear LOS (Line of sight) to multiple towers. Keep this in mind when driving around looking for 4G coverage.

 

[ekt8750]

When it comes to phones...maybe, I'm not sure. I miss handwriting recognition and drawing.

On tablets (which he was referring to I think) he was dead wrong. Tablets are perfect for a few things like drawing, drafting, note taking, and other tasks that make excellent use of a stylus or a pen. The thought of giving up pen input on my tablet is unthinkable. If I wanted to interact just by tapping or clicking I would use a laptop. The tablet is all about the pen.

Yeah I was talking about phones. I don't see any reason why anyone would need a stylus for the EVO. I tried out the HD2 the other day to get a feel for the screen and even my long but beefy fingers had no problem doing stuff with it. It was a big breath of fresh air from the tiny keyboard I have to deal with on my Blackberry Curve.

 

[talz13]

Yeah I was talking about phones. I don't see any reason why anyone would need a stylus for the EVO. I tried out the HD2 the other day to get a feel for the screen and even my long but beefy fingers had no problem doing stuff with it. It was a big breath of fresh air from the tiny keyboard I have to deal with on my Blackberry Curve.

Plus, styli don't leave grease smudges on the screen when you're dragging things around (like playing solitaire...)

 

[ekt8750]

double post

 

[RiverOfIce]

Unfortunately, signal attenuation (via absorbtion/reflection) is a big problem in the 2.5Ghz band. Foilage (tree leaves, literally) cause a big problem with signal attenuation in this band leaving the more realistic estimates of only 3-5mi/station -especially is less densely packed cities.

E.G. Where I am in Texas I am likely to have spottier coverage due to attenuation & tower density than someone in say a NYC highrise that might have clear LOS (Line of sight) to multiple towers. Keep this in mind when driving around looking for 4G coverage.

You can not take a technology in mid-build and claim it is so all over.

Leaves and trees should not effect your signal a whole amount. Wimax automatically adjust strength for degradation.

So the more scrambled your signal the more power is used.

But this really does depend on the build out. If you are at a BASE station or a REPEATER station.

It also depends on the amount of energy being used and your chip in your receiver.

I have done extensive test on wimax. I have found that for the most part, a 6-10mbps promised speed can be achieve to the end of the signal strength.

Yes buildings and mountains can deflect the signal. But the cost of filling these holes will be less then lte deployment.

I am not doubting your statments but would blame it on a weak receiving chip, clearwire's old chip set, and the use of a repeater instead of a base
station.

Like any coverage, given time, the holes will be filled.

Lte will be worst given the high cost of building out the next work and it can not boost signal strength to over come degradation.

 

[drksilenc]

the only time i would use a stylus is with fine motor skilled software. where the bigger the tip the less accurate the move is. games like jewels where even if you hit it dead center sometimes you grab another jewel by mistake

 

[Novoken]

ok so I dont want to read 4 pages to catch up. Can someone recap lol

 

[drksilenc]

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