Corporate Email for $29.99?

[crucifixion]

As a BB Storm user, I have to pay for BES in order to get my corp email on my phone.

With the Incredible, can i just get the $29.99 option and still get corp email, or do I have to get the $44.99 plan???

 

[WizeGuyDezignz]

I think you need to get the $44.99 plan, but someone can correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[clos1084]

Yes you still need it

 

[cdd543]

You do not need the $45 plan on android to use activesync. The $30 plan works perfectly. I have used the pre plus, droid and eris all on active sync for my corporate email. Blackberry is different as it runs through the RIM NOC and therefore they can control access based on the data plan.

 

[gobluejd]

You do NOT need the $45 plan as cdd543 indicates. I have 5 BB's that were all on BES, paying the $50 plan. Converted (3) to DROID and using the $29.99 plan. I believe the way you get charged is if they set it up for you. Do not tell them you are using Exchange. Set it up yourself (making sure your IT Admin enable sync on exchange).

Also since your coming from a Blackberry, check out my site as it may help you out.

www.blackberry2android.com

 

[malice]

I am a student and employee of 2 universities, and I have managed to setup exchange on my touch pro with no problem using the 29 dollar plan. I think they must do more management of your email for 45 dollar plan, which is sort of pointless.

 

[crucifixion]

Thanks.

Some conflicting responses, so let me ask this:

If I get the $29.99 plan, will the email/calendar/tasks/etc be "pushed" like BES, or will it have to be "pulled" using ActiveSync?

I think I read that someone said if you get Touchdown or some other app like that, the regular $29.99 plan is fine and it will be "pushed". Not sure tho.

 

[JFeisty]

Thanks.

Some conflicting responses, so let me ask this:

If I get the $29.99 plan, will the email/calendar/tasks/etc be "pushed" like BES, or will it have to be "pulled" using ActiveSync?

I think I read that someone said if you get Touchdown or some other app like that, the regular $29.99 plan is fine and it will be "pushed". Not sure tho.

I installed the trial version of Touchdown on my wife's Eris for a day to test out the possibility of hooking an Android device up to our Exchange server. Her Eris has the $29.99 data plan on it and Touchdown worked great. Most of the time I got emails on the Eris before they showed up in Outlook. When I get my Incredible, Touchdown will be one of the first apps I put on it.

 

[Rubik76]

When I bought my Eris, I was told I needed the $45 plan if I wanted to connect to my work's Enterprise Exchange server. Nobody at the Verizon store and none of the CSR's I've talked to over the phone since then have been able to explain why. One of them mumbled something about needing the $45 plan to open email attachments, but I don't believe that to be true.

I haven't worried about it too much since my work reimburses my data plan, but if it was my money, I'd get the $29 plan and see how it worked. You can always trade up later...

Also, the native HTC client allows for push; I haven't used it as I am willing to wait 15 minutes to get my mail via pull to save battery, but it's a feature of the client.

 

[phositadc]

Also, the native HTC client allows for push; I haven't used it as I am willing to wait 15 minutes to get my mail via pull to save battery, but it's a feature of the client.

Isn't the general consensus that PUSH actually uses less battery than PULL (unless perhaps you are getting emails every couple of seconds)? Theory being that if an email is pushed to your phone the same way that say, an SMS message is pushed to your phone, your phone isn't really doing anything. Whereas if your phone has to actually do some work (connect to server, download message, etc.) it is using the battery more.

Thoughts? I was under the impression that's why Blackberrys got such great battery life... because all of the email is PUSH.

 

[Rubik76]

Isn't the general consensus that PUSH actually uses less battery than PULL (unless perhaps you are getting emails every couple of seconds)? Theory being that if an email is pushed to your phone the same way that say, an SMS message is pushed to your phone, your phone isn't really doing anything. Whereas if your phone has to actually do some work (connect to server, download message, etc.) it is using the battery more.

Thoughts? I was under the impression that's why Blackberrys got such great battery life... because all of the email is PUSH.

Depends how often you pull, I think.

 

[bioluminous]

this info is important to me as well. i am coming from a BB curve with the $45 data plan> I just ordered my droid incredible with the $30 plan and will see how it goes with touchdown. I really dont think you need the $45 plan unless you have a BB which uses a proprietary BB enterprise Server connection to have exchange pushed. I'll update once I get my incredible to confirm.

 

[gobluejd]

All you need is the $29 plan. PERIOD. Don't worry about it. I have a corporate account, use tons of data (even PDAnet) and I am paying $29.

BTW Touchdown will do email, calendar and tasks NOT NOTES. I have heard that HTC's exchange is even better so I am holding off on purchasing TD, until I have the Incredible. Do not get me wrong TD is great, just want to try HTC's version.

 

[cdd543]

Yeah touchdown is a very good app and it gives you top down folder notification just like a blackberry will.

 

[Rubik76]

Touchdown does tasks? The HTC client does not, at least not in the 2.1 leak on Eris.

 

[JFeisty]

Touchdown does tasks? The HTC client does not, at least not in the 2.1 leak on Eris.

Yep:
NitroDesk Inc. - TouchDown features

Also, TouchDown has a very robust alerting system. You can have different alerts (or none at all) based on subject/sender/etc. Not sure if HTC's implementation does this, but it's a must have for me. If one of our systems at work sends an "error" email I want it to alert me differently than my regular emails.

 

[katielynn783]

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[katielynn783]

Can someone explain in a little more detail why an enterprise plan wont be needed for the Incredible? it's a little easier said than done to "just not worry about it" when you aren't in control of the Exchange system.

I am a BlackBerry user as well and was told I had to upgrade my account to BES when I started my job in order to get my email pushed "for security reasons." It'd help me if I could be able to explain why I no longer have the higher plan when I switch to Android.

How do HTC's Exchange and Touchdown work differently than BES?

Thanks in advance!

 

[Crashumbc]

I am a BlackBerry user as well and was told I had to upgrade my account to BES when I started my job in order to get my email pushed "for security reasons." !

who told you you "needed" it?

 

[katielynn783]

who told you you "needed" it?

My IT Director - he no longer allows BlackBerry users to access email without the Enterprise account

 

[JFeisty]

Can someone explain in a little more detail why an enterprise plan wont be needed for the Incredible? it's a little easier said than done to "just not worry about it" when you aren't in control of the Exchange system.

I am a BlackBerry user as well and was told I had to upgrade my account to BES when I started my job in order to get my email pushed "for security reasons." It'd help me if I could be able to explain why I no longer have the higher plan when I switch to Android.

How do HTC's Exchange and Touchdown work differently than BES?

Thanks in advance!

BES stands for Blackberry Enterprise Server. That's what is used to connect your Blackberry phone to your company's mail server (e.g. MS Exchange). BES is used for Blackberry devices. There is a subscription cost to use BES.

My company uses Exchange, and Android can use Exchange's built in device connection protocol called ActiveSync. Since Android (and Windows Mobile) devices don't use BES to connect to Exchange, you won't have to pay that subscription fee. So, if you have a Blackberry you'll need a BES subscription in order to sync email, calendar, tasks, etc. to your company's back end. Other types of devices to not need BES.

I probably got something wrong, and I'm sure someone will come along and correct me, but that's the gist of it. Hope that helps.

 

[katielynn783]

My company uses Exchange, and Android can use Exchange's built in device connection protocol called ActiveSync. Since Android (and Windows Mobile) devices don't use BES to connect to Exchange, you won't have to pay that subscription fee. So, if you have a Blackberry you'll need a BES subscription in order to sync email, calendar, tasks, etc. to your company's back end. Other types of devices to not need BES.

Thanks.

So if that's the case, why are $45 plans even available for WinMo and Android phones?

 

[BuickGS67]

Supposedly, the $45 plan is for Exchange accounts. Since my office doesn't use exchange servers (simple POP e-mail), I went with the $30 plan. I had it on my BB for years with no problems that way.

 

[Crashumbc]

Thanks.

So if that's the case, why are $45 plans even available for WinMo and Android phones?

Because Verizon likes earning money...

 

[JFeisty]

Because Verizon likes earning money...

That would be my guess. lol