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Motorolla to come out with Evo competitor

If that is indeed the Shadow, then it will be coming out in June/July for Verizon. Howard Forums has two insiders who have been leaking info about the phone for months now. Apparently the Shadow, or whatever it's eventualy called, will be out June/July and the Moto Droid 2 will be out shortly thereafter; Shadow no keyboard and Droid 2 with keyboard.

The only difference in the specs the "insiders" have been claiming and that story is the insiders have said the screen will be 4.1", not 4.3", and they haven't said whether it will have Froyo or not.

Between the Evo, Incredible, Shadow, Iphone HD, and Galaxy S, it is a good summer to be purchasing a smart phone.
 
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If this is indeed coming to Verizon, it seems like it's starting to glut the market with smartphones. I suppose it may be normal since the market is growing, but the Incredible, LG Ally, and this phone are all coming out within a month of each other? Seems like overkill.

it won't glut the market as long as too many phones aren't overcrowding particular segments. we had a good discussion a few weeks ago about price points and how that would give optimum penetration for carriers (like Evo for $200, N1 for $100, Hero for $60)
 
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Can't stand vanilla android. Email blows. It's clunky all around. Don't think I'd buy an Android phone without Sense. I deactivated my Moment yet again and am back with webOS. HTC gets it. Google doesn't. Create one email app so all are equal. Tired of seeing gmail get the goods and leave other providers out in the cold. They still don't have Exchange down. It's still an unfinished product. So no 4g, vanilla android and higher rate plans. Go for it Motorola and Verizon. I'll stick with HTC, Sense, 4g and cheaper plans.
 
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Can't stand vanilla android. Email blows. It's clunky all around. Don't think I'd buy an Android phone without Sense. I deactivated my Moment yet again and am back with webOS. HTC gets it. Google doesn't. Create one email app so all are equal. Tired of seeing gmail get the goods and leave other providers out in the cold. They still don't have Exchange down. It's still an unfinished product. So no 4g, vanilla android and higher rate plans. Go for it Motorola and Verizon. I'll stick with HTC, Sense, 4g and cheaper plans.

Spot on -- well said. The stock Android OS still feels too rough around the edges to be considered a worthy competitor "for the masses", let alone us geeks. Thank goodness for HTC's Sense.
 
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I thought it had a keyboard? If it does then I'm going to have a tough decision because I value a keyboard way more then Sense. 4.1 or 4.3 isn't a big difference to me and the rest of the specs seem to all be the same.

BTW guys, I got to play with a EVO at a wireless convention last week in Boston and its awesome. I've had 5 Android phones and played with everyone that's been released in the states and this is easily the best one to date. It feels rock solid like my droid and is blazing fast over 4G, I downloaded a 183MB file in under a minute. Screen transitions are insanely smooth compared to even the incredible and it opens apps at light speed.


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BTW guys, I got to play with a EVO at a wireless convention last week in Boston and its awesome. I've had 5 Android phones and played with everyone that's been released in the states and this is easily the best one to date. It feels rock solid like my droid and is blazing fast over 4G, I downloaded a 183MB file in under a minute. Screen transitions are insanely smooth compared to even the incredible and it opens apps at light speed.


Sent from my Droid using Tapatalk

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I have to keep reminding myself that the midrange smartphones are going to start becoming the norm. Every year there are going to be incremental upgrades to the top of the line but before you know it, Droids, Legends, etc. will be the dime-a-dozen phones you see all over the place.

It might seem like the market is getting flooded but it's just driving up the quality of what the norm is. The days of a couple high end smart phones and a bunch of cheap flip phones on each carrier are just about over. Pretty soon, the smart phones from 6-12 months ago will be the freebies given away for new contracts.

The nice thing about this is that every 12 months when my discount comes up, there should be a sizable upgrade available instead of just an incremental one (slightly more RAM, slightly faster CPU, etc) since they are coming out so fast.

On one hand it's awesome because of all the options but we will have to get used to not always having something light years ahead of our non-enthusiast friends and coworkers.
 
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Evo and competitor phones are coming fast now because consumers have been sitting on the sidelines with the junk phones they've put out over the last couple of years. Not all were truly junk, but clearly they didn't have the hardware or OS to make them lustworthy. And don't forget if Sprint continues with it's value-pricing plans, these competitor phones are going to get much more expensive on networks committed to "additional tiered pricing" taking advantage of the fact that data consumption is only going to get more lucrative for other carriers despite the cost of delivering going down (additional infrastructure costs will be high but aren't being assessed as one-time fees but instead rolled into ongoing plan charges).

I want Moto to succeed b/c they're employ a lot of people in America, but I want other makers to succeed too so no one gets in the way of good products coming to market. Moto's problem though is the only thing they've made worthwhile since the Razr has been the Droid. Droid's good, but it's now not a premium phone and never had the specs to stay as a premium phone. That's where Evo's likely to be different. It will rely on network expansion/speed to maintain it's advantage while the hardware/OS gap will be inevitably closed with each new advance in technology.

I liken Evo's ability to hold on as a preferred, premium phone to the way WinXP did for PC OS. New products came out, but people have stuck with XP because it's still reasonably reliable, not severely speed or feature handicapped compared to new Windows OS releases, and allows its users to do 99% of what they want to as quickly and effectively as they want to. Why buy a "new" phone until something again really changes the game is what Evo owners will be asking, and the answer will likely be "no reason until something BIG comes along."

Ask this, "If I have an Evo on a value-priced plan with good service and 4G truly unlimited, how good would another phone have to be to sign up for another carrier that's only going to charge me more to take advantage of that phone's capabilities?" This is how Sprint should market and sell Evo after it's been on the market and other "Evo killers/competitors" begin to emerge. I hope someone from Sprint marketing's already working on this.
 
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