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Downside to purchasing through Wirefly?

will we be able to buy the phone out of contract from WireFly? i wasn't able to find out if WireFly charges sales tax or not for California, when i get to the last page it won't let me review the order.

I don't think you can buy the phone out of contract with them based on their business model.

Based on the above post there are only 5 states that will charge sales tax, but I would recommend PM'ing the "wirefly" guy to find out, or just call their customer service line.

Good luck, given it's Kalifornia, I can't imagine they would pass up an opportunity to grab some more of people's dough. ;)
 
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I was wondering if anybody had legitimate reasons for why I shouldn't get my EVO through Wirefly?.....
Thanks for any insight or thoughts on this in advance....

I purchased my HERO through Wirefly. I wish I hadn't because:
1. They promised next day shipping, but when I ordered, they stated it was out of stock. It arrived a couple of days late.
2. In the documentation that accompanies the phone, they state that if you cancel or even change the Phone # your new HERO is associated with within 6 months, there will be a $300 charge, over and above what you paid. Now, I only read this after taking the new HERO out of the box before I read the paperwork. I called their Customer Service and asked if I could move a different number (I have a Family Everything Data Plan with 3 active lines) on my account to the HERO without incurring the $300 fee. They told me that if I cancel the account, change the number, even to a different number on the same account or if I downgrade my account in any way, I will incur that fee.

On item #1 above, okay...even though I paid extra $$ to get it overnight, they were out of stock. Maybe it couldn't have been helped, but they should have refunded the overnight shipping charge. They didn't.

On item #2 above, I really like my HERO, but on occasion, when I need to attend an event, I like the option to move my primary cell phone number from my HERO to my Blackberry, which I used to do before I got the HERO.

As a result of this, I have relegated all WIREFLY email I receive to JUNKMAIL status. I will just use ebay in the future. The phone sellers there have NEVER, EVER let me down.

Whatever you decided to do, I wish you luck. I am confident you will love your new EVO.
 
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2. In the documentation that accompanies the phone, they state that if you cancel or even change the Phone # your new HERO (EVO) is associated with within 6 months, there will be a $300 charge, over and above what you paid.
This could be a potential dealbreaker for me as I'm in need of transferring my phone number after the account is created (creating a new family plan and porting my SERO account to someone else).
 
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K4KAI- I’m sorry to hear about your experience. We should at a minimum have credited you for your shipping fee. If you send me your order # via PM, I would like to look it up to find out what happened and try to make things right.

As for the equipment discount provision, this is a much-misunderstood part of buying from an authorized retailer. When you purchase your phone from an authorized retailer such as Wirefly, you are getting an extra subsidy (discount) on the phone price. This discount is made possible because the carriers (Verizon Wireless, AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile, etc.) pay Wirefly a commission when you sign a contract and keep that account in good standing for at least 180 days.

It's a win-win for you, the customer, and for us, the retailer, except for one problem. People could try to "game" this system when the phone’s value is higher than the carrier’s ETF. That's why authorized retailers including RadioShack, BestBuy, WalMart, Amazon, Wirefly and others have an additional provision in the contract when you order through them. The provision calls for the retailer to recover the entire discounted phone price if the carrier reports to us that you deactivated your service during the first six months of the contract. At Wirefly, we disclose this very prominently through the checkout process, and ask customers to agree to this as a separate step from the carrier terms.

One might assume that moving equipment from one phone number to another wouldn’t cause the carrier to report a deactivation, but sometimes it does, particularly when rate plan types and data features are changed. That’s why this item is listed in our terms. Rest assured that if the carrier reports to us that somebody deactivated, the first thing we do is contact the customer to verify that it’s true! We would much rather we correct a carrier mistake than charge a fee to our customers.
 
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This additional provision in the contract only kicks in from the 31th day to the 6th month right? as i understand it, I can return the phone to wirefly and cancel with sprint service within 30 days without incurring any penalties.

If i purchase two EVO's from wirefly on a new sprint family plan contract, can i port over my two numbers from AT&T at a later date, after activation but within the 30 days? or will this incur the penalty from wirefly, or amazon, or bestbuy, ect?
 
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Has anyone ordered from Wirefly and had a problem with having to select a service? I have an everything data plan, but when I went to buy the Hero it said I had to choose a $15 or $25 a month service that included things I already have in my everything data plan and had to keep it for 6 months. I couldn't find a way around it, so I just never got the phone.

But now that I want the Evo I would like to find out if there is a way around that charge since I already have the services. I believe it's a $300 fee if you cancel early.
 
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Has anyone ordered from Wirefly and had a problem with having to select a service? I have an everything data plan, but when I went to buy the Hero it said I had to choose a $15 or $25 a month service that included things I already have in my everything data plan and had to keep it for 6 months. I couldn't find a way around it, so I just never got the phone.

But now that I want the Evo I would like to find out if there is a way around that charge since I already have the services. I believe it's a $300 fee if you cancel early.

I have noticed in the past when I looked at upgrading my phone on Verizon that for whatever reason, I was unable to select certain plans on Wirefly versus Verizon's website.

I think my plan is to purchase the EVO on Wirefly if the price is at $149 for the phone, select the best plan that I can, then call Sprint Customer Service to get my plan changed to the SERO discount or use a discount (12%) my wife has through her company. But the SERO plan price is tough to beat.

To answer my original question that prompted this thread, the only downside to going with Wirefly is if something goes wrong with the phone in the first 30 days. Then I HAVE to ship my phone back to them and wait for the resolution. They provide the return shipping and everything, but I don't really want to miss out on my phone for a week or longer.

But that is the only downside I can think of. If you can get the phone for effectively $99 (Based on a $149 list price like the Incredible - $50 bing cashback, with no activation fee if available at that time), and then call Sprint to fix your plan to whatever you would like it to be, plus I'm probably going to add the Sprint TEP plan ($7 per month), so that if anything does happen to the phone I can take it to Sprint to have it fixed or replaced after 30 days.

I don't know, still seems like Wirefly is a pretty good option to me, but we'll see. I'll be curious to see what other deals pop up as the release gets closer.
 
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i thought once you pick a plan with wirefly, or amazon, you're locked in that plan for 6 months otherwise the retailers will charge you a fee. so you can't go and immediately switch it to a sero plan after buying from wirefly using a "normal" plan...

This is from Wirefly's site: It is only if you go to a lower cost plan, which in this case the SERO would be. :(




Wirefly promises you savings in the form of instant discounts with no rebates or gimmicks when you sign up for wireless carrier service. Delivering on this promise means that you must agree to maintain your agreement for a minimum of 6 months after activation. Deactivating your phone, or downgrading features or the rate plan, may lead to additional charges. When you sign up for wireless carrier service through Wirefly, we discount your phone purchase price by an Equipment Discount amount ranging from $200 to $300. By ordering through Wirefly, you agree to repay this discount if, during the 181 days after your new equipment is activated, if you:
  • Fail to pay your balance due to your carrier each month
  • Disconnect this line of service
  • Transfer this equipment to another line of service
  • Change your carrier service rate plan to a lower monthly service rate plan
  • Deactivate the email/data feature if one was required at the point of purchase
  • Transfer/port an existing phone number from another account if this is a new line of service
  • Replace an existing account with this account if this is a new line of service
  • Return or exchange your phone and it is not in its original, new condition with no more than 30 minutes of usage
If you break any of these contract provisions, except as a result of a documented service quality issue related to the carrier service, you authorize us to charge your credit card in repayment of the Equipment Discount.

Doesn't look like you can port your number over from another carrier either. So you have to buy the phone, sign up for the service, AND get a new number with it, if I'm reading things correctly. :(
 
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the "Transfer/port an existing phone number from another account if this is a new line of service", does it count if i port an existing number from another carrier, like AT&T? i'd hate for them to port my number when they ship, then our iphones will be dead for the duration of the shipping, maybe a week or whatever...any ways around this?
 
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I have noticed in the past when I looked at upgrading my phone on Verizon that for whatever reason, I was unable to select certain plans on Wirefly versus Verizon's website.

I think my plan is to purchase the EVO on Wirefly if the price is at $149 for the phone, select the best plan that I can, then call Sprint Customer Service to get my plan changed to the SERO discount or use a discount (12%) my wife has through her company. But the SERO plan price is tough to beat.

This can happen for two reasons: Either the carrier does not compensate Wirefly for activating certain rate plans (like Sprint SERO), or the carrier requires that device to have one of the newer data features. This is unfortunately common with the newer smartphones, and will certainly be true for the EVO and other 4G phones.

As others have pointed out, you can’t purchase from Wirefly and then immediately switch to a lower-priced rate plan that was not available. You CAN order from Wirefly and still get any corporate discount that you had on your Sprint account.
 
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the "Transfer/port an existing phone number from another account if this is a new line of service", does it count if i port an existing number from another carrier, like AT&T? i'd hate for them to port my number when they ship, then our iphones will be dead for the duration of the shipping, maybe a week or whatever...any ways around this?

Wirefly will arrange the porting of your number from AT&T. You simply provide your AT&T account number and phone number after you select your phone and plan. We initiate the port request based on the shipping receipt date, to give you time to receive and charge your new phone.
 
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Regarding Resellerratings, we recently joined their merchant program so that we can follow up with the issues that have been raised there, and get more of our very satisfied customers to share their experience. We are not perfect, but the # of recent reviews posted represent approximately one-thousanth of 1% of our customers. 95% of the reviews are from 2007 and earlier, when Wirefly was owned by a different company. We definitely have some work to do there!

For all who are considering the EVO, it is worth noting that the EVO will not work with Sprint SERO plans. In fact, the EVO will require an additional Sprint 4G add-on data feature costing $10/month.
 
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Hi Wirefly,
I am a current Sprint cutomer who is out of contract. I often see on your website that there is a price difference between new customers and upgrades. Will that be the case with the EVO?
I ask because according to Best Buy, Radio Shack and Sprint themselves, there should not be a price difference for the phone since my 2 year contract has expired and I'm basically a free agent.
Finally, any idea when you guys will have pricing info on the phone?
 
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Wirefly will arrange the porting of your number from AT&T. You simply provide your AT&T account number and phone number after you select your phone and plan. We initiate the port request based on the shipping receipt date, to give you time to receive and charge your new phone.


Can you initiate the port request like 10-15 days after shipping receipt date or at a day near the end of my billing cycle? My problem is if you port my number right after I receive the new phones, my AT&T phones will be dead immediately. what if i find out i don't like the EVO and or sprint's service a week later? while i can still cancel my sprint contract within the 30 days and return the phone to you guys, i'm still screwed because my AT&T plan is also terminated. There's got to be some logical ways around this...
 
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I guess I've misunderstood the sales representative then. I thought I pre-ordered, gave a $50 deposit towards the purchase of the phone, and they give me a gift-card towards the accessories of the phone.

Oh well, I was expecting to pay $199 anyways. So I don't mind really, but I really thought I would be paying $149 more come June 4. LOL

Checking my receipt, it says:

Package 1xx8****************************
9xxxxx5 PRESELL SPR 50.00
PRESELL SPRINT HTC EVO 4G
PACKAGE GFIT CARD VA 50.00
ITEM TAX 4.13
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx PACKAGE SV 0.00
ISSUE APPROVAL xxxxxx
50.00 balance
REG. $0.01 0.01 DISC
------
SUBTOTAL 50.00
SALES TAX AMOUNT 4.13
=====
TOTAL 54.13

Not sure that that meant... LOL


You need to go back to best buy and have them give you $4.13 back. Tax is not charged on Gift Cards because you're going to be taxed on your phone when you pick it up.
 
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You need to go back to best buy and have them give you $4.13 back. Tax is not charged on Gift Cards because you're going to be taxed on your phone when you pick it up.

No need to go back to do that. As long as they apply the $50 gift card BEFORE adding tax on the balance (e.g. Add tax to $149, rather than $199), it'll be the same thing.
 
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FYI - Here is Wirefly's info on porting your number.

Switching Your Old Cell Phone Number To Your New Phone and Plan
It is now possible to switch between U.S. cell phone providers and keep your phone number. This process is called Wireless Number Portability.
1. What are the steps for keeping my number when switching?
2. How can I ensure that the porting of my number goes smoothly?
3. Can I only port my number when I order a new phone?
4. When should I cancel my current service?
5. Can I use my current phone with my new wireless carrier?
6. Can I transfer my home phone number to my cell phone?
7. Can I keep my number if I move to another city?
8. What if I have a contract with my current wireless carrier?
9. How long will the transfer take?





Q: What are the steps for keeping my number when switching?
A: We've made it easy to keep your number when switching. Just follow these simple steps: STEP 1: Submit Your Order For a New Phone and Plan
Be sure to click on the box that says "Yes! Switch my old cell phone number to my new phone and plan." You will be asked to provide your current wireless phone number and account number. This information can be found on your old wireless bill, or by dialing 611 from your wireless phone.
Your order will be submitted for approval by your new carrier. After it is approved, we will schedule your phone to be activated and your number to be ported. In the rare event that your number cannot be ported, we will contact you with alternative options for activating service. You should receive your new phone prior to port completion so that service is not disrupted with your old service provider.
STEP 2: Receive Your New Phone
Once you receive your phone, your phone number should be ported within 24 hours. You will be provided with information to check the real-time status of your scheduled port request.

IMPORTANT: DO NOT CANCEL SERVICE WITH YOUR CURRENT PROVIDER UNTIL AFTER YOUR WIRELESS PHONE NUMBER HAS BEEN SUCCESSFULLY PORTED TO YOUR NEW PROVIDER. IF YOU CANCEL SERVICE WITH YOUR CURRENT PROVIDER BEFORE SUCCESSFULLY PORTING YOUR PHONE NUMBER TO YOUR NEW PROVIDER, YOU MAY LOSE YOUR PHONE NUMBER . STEP 3: Cancel Your Old Account
After your phone number is ported, you will no longer be able to use your phone number with your old service provider. You must contact your old service provider to cancel service. You will be responsible for payment of all outstanding charges including any fees that may be assessed by your old service provider for canceling service.



Q: How can I ensure that the porting of my number goes smoothly?
A: If the information you provide exactly matches the information in your old carrier account, then your port should go smoothly with no delays. When you place your order, make sure that your wireless phone number, account number, and name exactly match the information on your last wireless phone bill.




Q: Can I only port my number when I order a new phone?
A: No. You can initiate a number portability request at any time by filling out a port application request with your carrier. If you are establishing a new account, we strongly recommend porting your number now as part of your new service order. We have more experience handling number portability requests for every major U.S. carrier than any retailer or web site. Waiting to port your number yourself creates work for you, and may require that you keep your old cell phone account active longer than you might like.




Q: When should I cancel my current service?
A: You should sign up with your new wireless carrier and complete the number porting process BEFORE canceling your current service. Canceling your current service before the porting process is complete will cause you to lose the ability to keep your current phone number.




Q: Can I use my current phone with my new wireless carrier?
A: Probably not, since different wireless carriers operate incompatible network technologies. Additionally, most cell phones are programmed to work only on the network of the carrier that supplied the phone.




Q: Can I transfer my home phone number to my cell phone?
A: Yes. You can transfer your home or office phone number to your cell phone, as long as the wireless carrier you switch to provides coverage in the location of your conventional phone line -- also called a landline or wireline. Under FCC rules, local phone companies are allowed up to four business days to transfer a phone number between carriers so you may have to go several days without cell phone service if you make such a switch.




Q: Can I keep my number if I move to another city?
A: No, not unless you are moving within the same local geographic area where the phone number is currently assigned. Even within the same telephone area code, you may be outside the boundaries of the local calling area that determines if your number is portable.




Q: What if I have a contract with my current wireless carrier?
A: If you have a contract with your current carrier, you are required to honor the full term of your current contract or you will be charged the termination fee that is specified in your subscriber agreement.




Q: How long will the transfer take?
A: FCC guidelines state that the porting process should be completed within 2 hours of scheduling. However, some wireless carriers still process a percentage of requests manually. Because of this, some carriers warn that the process may take up to 4 days to complete. We have more experience handling number portability requests for every major U.S. carrier than any retailer or web site, and we make every effort to schedule your number transfer with your shipment so that it will occur within 24 hours after you receive your phone.

Based on what Wirefly1 has posted in this thread, I think depending on price, if it is similar to the Incredible and priced at $149, this is a route you could take.

1. Purchase the EVO through Wirefly, using the Bing Cashback option. Will drop effective price to $99.99 for phone.

2. Port your number from Verizon to Sprint, based on what Wirefly1 and the website says, this won't be a problem at all.

3. Then contact Sprint customer service to apply my "corporate" discount which will keep me on the same plan I sign up for on Wirefly, but will still give me a 12% discount on the price of the plan.

4. Then have Sprint customer service apply the TEP $7 per month protection plan in case anything goes wrong with the phone during my initial 30 days with Wirefly, but more for after the first 30 days.

Hopefully Wirefly will start putting some info on the website like they did for the Incredible.
 
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