Weirdness with cell standby, 2.1v3

[flspnr]

I checked to see if I have the cell standby 50% bug and I do. But, it's weirder than it was. My up time is 11:34:50, my awake time is 3:47:48, but if I look at the cell standby it says time on 14:42:16. How can the cell standby thing be a longer time than my phone has been on?? I did the leak 2 days ago, so it's not showing that time or anything. Any ideas? Anyone else notice this?

 

[ndsustudent]

I know this is a documented issue with the cooked ROMs. There is some sort of trick to get it fixed but I do not know what it is. Try checking the "Bugs" thread for the leaked 2.1 rom.

http://androidforums.com/htc-droid-eris/50542-eris-2-1-leak-bugs-fixes.html

 

[3ris]

go bison!

 

[flspnr]

I know this is a documented issue with the cooked ROMs. There is some sort of trick to get it fixed but I do not know what it is. Try checking the "Bugs" thread for the leaked 2.1 rom.

http://androidforums.com/htc-droid-eris/50542-eris-2-1-leak-bugs-fixes.html

I know about the issue and how to fix, like I said. I'm curious about why my cell standby *time* is higher than my phones time being turned on. Thanks though.

 

[Hom3Skill3t]

I know about the issue and how to fix, like I said. I'm curious about why my cell standby *time* is higher than my phones time being turned on. Thanks though.

How is it that you fix the bug? I didn't see anything relating to it on the link provided. My Cell Standby is eating away my battery, often being the cause of over 90% of the battery usage. If there is a way to fix this please let me know. I've tried the *# number and just about everything else. I don't think I should have to constantly change it to and from Airplane mode either. Thanks for any provided help.

 

[Podivin]

Hom3, why is it bad that cell standby is the primary user of your battery? If you're not using your phone for something else, all it's going to be doing is cell standby (waiting to see if a call will come in, switching from tower to tower if you're on the move,that sort of thing). Personally *I* start to wonder when cell standby is NOT the highest user on my battery - it makes me wonder what the other apps have been up to...

 

[Bswartz95]

Hom3, why is it bad that cell standby is the primary user of your battery? If you're not using your phone for something else, all it's going to be doing is cell standby (waiting to see if a call will come in, switching from tower to tower if you're on the move,that sort of thing). Personally *I* start to wonder when cell standby is NOT the highest user on my battery - it makes me wonder what the other apps have been up to...

My "phone idle" is usually slightly higher than "cell standby". What's the difference between these two?

 

[fmadrigal]

My "phone idle" is usually slightly higher than "cell standby". What's the difference between these two?

I would like to know that too, please? thank you

 

[Hom3Skill3t]

My "phone idle" is usually slightly higher than "cell standby". What's the difference between these two?

Cell standby is when your phone is looking for a connection to any kind of tower to receive signal like mhotovec stated above, and phone idle is more OS related. If I'm incorrect in this information, someone feel free to correct me. (And as this is the internet, someone will lol)

@mhotovec I'm fine with it being the primary use of my battery, but the problem I'm having is that it is completely draining my battery. I did a factory restore on the phone last night and charged it before I went into work today. (Where I have no reception) The only app I have installed is ATK and nothing else, it cannot be apps killing my battery. I left for work at 7am and by the time I got home at 5pm and 60% of my battery was gone. Whereas a week ago with all apps installed, ATK killing un-necessary apps, and leaving it in my car, I would come home, same time frame, and still have 95% of my battery left. I just don't understand why when my phone is actually receiving signal and has apps installed, hardly any battery at all is drained, but when there are no apps installed and it's just sitting there, I lose 60% of my battery. (If this sounds like me getting mad at you, I apologize, meant to vent in general.)

 

[Bswartz95]

So if the phone is in cell standby, then it is connecting to the tower (i.e. transferring data to my apps, widgets, polling for calls/texts, etc..)??

If it's idle, then it's doing nothing? Kind of just waiting?

Is this correct?

 

[copestag]

I dont have a problem with cell standby using the majority of my battery as long as the cell is truely standing by......... the problem with the 50% bug is that for 50% of the time you have no connection to a tower at all and it sucks your battery down searching for one constantly.........

in my case I can literally jog to a verizon tower in less than 5 minutes..... Ive never had less than 2 bars for a signal...... and yet 50% of my power is being used searching for a signal that it cannot find?

and to flspnr: I have the exact same thing... my phone has been on for 6 hours right now....... its been in cell standby for 8 hours.......... 48% of which was without a signal yet I never had less than 2 bars all day

 

[NightsSatin]

I just rebooted my phone after gettin the new PRL..

To the OP

My phone says the same thing.. Cell Standby higher than Up time..

Up Time 0:15:28
Cell Standby 0:29:32

No clue

and I have 2.1 OTA

 

[Hom3Skill3t]

If I understand correctly how it works, standby works on the data and cell side, and the phone idle handles the OS side of the house. So yes you are correct.

 

[Bswartz95]

I checked to see if I have the cell standby 50% bug and I do. But, it's weirder than it was. My up time is 11:34:50, my awake time is 3:47:48, but if I look at the cell standby it says time on 14:42:16. How can the cell standby thing be a longer time than my phone has been on?? I did the leak 2 days ago, so it's not showing that time or anything. Any ideas? Anyone else notice this?

Your up time is since your last reboot. Your battery info (cell standby) is since last unplugged. So if you've rebooted your phone since plugging it in, your up time will be lower than your cell standby.


So, if you reboot your phone right now, your up time would be under a minute, but your cell standby won't reset until you plug it in.

I hope that makes sense.

 

[Podivin]

Hom3, as I'm sure you know, if your phone is where there is no signal it will rapidly run down the battery trying to find a signal (as far as I know, this is true of all cell phones). Looking for a signal requires much more battery than just hanging on to one. One thing I couldn't tell for sure about the problem you're having - you mentioned this week you took you phone to work (where there is no signal) etc. And last week when you had better battery life you mentioned that you left your phone in your car (I presume at work). This week is your phone also still in your car, or did you take it inside with you? If you took it inside, is it possible there is a signal outside your work but not inside?
And no, I didn't take anything you said as being aimed at me.

 

[Bswartz95]

Hom3, as I'm sure you know, if your phone is where there is no signal it will rapidly run down the battery trying to find a signal (as far as I know, this is true of all cell phones). Looking for a signal requires much more battery than just hanging on to one. One thing I couldn't tell for sure about the problem you're having - you mentioned this week you took you phone to work (where there is no signal) etc. And last week when you had better battery life you mentioned that you left your phone in your car (I presume at work). This week is your phone also still in your car, or did you take it inside with you? If you took it inside, is it possible there is a signal outside your work but not inside?
And no, I didn't take anything you said as being aimed at me.

This is a good point. Every time I go shopping at Target, I have to leave my phone in my car. I lose signal inside (or it gets really bad) and I lose 15% of my battery, easily, in about 30 minutes.

 

[Hom3Skill3t]

This is a good point. Every time I go shopping at Target, I have to leave my phone in my car. I lose signal inside (or it gets really bad) and I lose 15% of my battery, easily, in about 30 minutes.

I'm pretty sure that's what it is. I've just never had any issues with any other smart phone I've owned. I previously had an iPhone, and while at work with no signal, I didn't have any apparent battery drain, and it would last me almost two days with no recharge. But my Android phone, however, does the exact opposite.
I think I've found a temporary solution though. I created a customized mode that goes from 8-5 and has Airplane Mode turned on. (Not receiving messages and things don't matter as I have no signal anyway.) This is my first day trying this, but my battery consumption already seems less. We'll see if at 5 when the modes switch, if Airplane mode turns off, and what the battery looks like. If it does turn off, then there is my solution I suppose. I could leave it in my car, but since the phone is new, and it's getting really hot here, I don't want my phone sitting in the incubator that is my car. It does seem to be a issue that so much power is being put into finding a signal, or that the phone is working so hard to find one, and it steadily draining the battery.

 

[Hom3Skill3t]

Update: Mode changing does not effect it at all. I changed the mode at lunch, and it continued to stay in Airplane Mode. I had to take off the Airplane Mode manually. This is going to get frustrating, but if I have to manually enable APM everyday to save the life of my battery, so be it.