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Old July 7th, 2011, 11:50 AM   #1 (permalink)
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This article is for majority of ViewSonic G Tablet users who want to use their tablet for work, productivity and entertainment instead of spending more than 5% of their use time, fixing it. However, if you enjoy playing with your device configurations or if you are a professional developer who do this for living obviously this article is not for you.

Like many others, after I bought the G Tablet I ended up rooting it and soon after it started to give me problems. After crashes, flushes, factory resets and reading 100's of comments and solutions on different sites with complains of bricked, flushed, crashed and frozen devices and applications, I came to the realization that rooting G Tablet is way overrated and in majority of cases completely unnecessary. It has now been a while since I have gone back to the original stock Gtablet ROM with the conclusion that the majority of tasks can be performed with ease and speed on the g-tablet without rooting.

By not rooting the tablet and instead following some of the set-up guidelines below one can put his/her new tablet to its best use. Those who already have rooted their Gtabs and happen to be tired of encountering one problem after another (or after facing such issues), may consider un-rooting (Completely flush before doing the factory rest).

The question that first one must ask him/herself is: Why do I have the g-tablet and then proceed with customizing it for that purpose. With that introduction, here are my responses to some of the frequently addressed reasons that have lead users to rooting:

1- I do not like the G Tablet operating screen.
Just click on the "classic" icon at the bottom and thereafter your tablet will load in a classic mode; very similar to typical android environment. You can also download programs such as LaunchPro for more options keeping in mind that the more changes you make to any standard environment, the more problems you might encounter in future.

2- G Tablet classic screen does not have the scroll down screen.
On the top right, there are three small icons that show WIFI and battery status and another with exclamation point which if touched it drops down the notifications such as running applications, downloads, emails etc… just as the typical android accomplish the same task by scrolling down. Therefore, the difference is only cosmetic and not operational.

3- G-Tablet does not support Adobe Flash and therefore I cannot use videos.
Most probably, you have not updated your Gtab. Go to the stock applications and click on update. I also suggest that you download and use SKYFIRE or similar internet browsers, which are more video friendly than the Gtablet's stock browser. Also keep your adobe flash updated.

4- I cannot use Google’s android market on Gtablet.
Nearly all of the applications that are on Google Market (or more!) can be found in other android marketplaces or on internet. Here is how I have resolved this subject:

I have allocated one of my scrolling screens to the markets and that way I have all of them in one place when I need to download or updated an application
  • Amazon Appstore – This application also updates your applications.
  • Gmarket (By handango) – This application is already installed on your G-tablet.
  • App Center (By Android PIT) – Also includes update feature.
  • SlideMe
  • Android Application websites such as Mobango, Freeware and Droidpirate also offer various android applications. I have icons directed to their link. (Go to Gtablet stock browser, once on the site add them to your favorite and chose the option “add icon to home screen- make sure that you are on a screen where there is room for more icons)
  • Web Search- When necessary simply type the application name (or name apk) and you can find links to the desired application.
Many other android market sites are popping up every day that you can use if needed. Note that some markets such as Appbrain, Aproov, and AndroidZoom still feed from Google Market and such sites are of no use to Gtablet users.


5- I cannot use Netflix on Stock Android.
Download PlayOn, which gives you the possibility of using Netflix, Hulu and variety of other channels on your G-tablet. Here are some additional TV, Radio and Music applications that I use with my G-tablet.
VIDEO: PlayOn, SPBTV, TV.com, Television, Droid Stream, TV Shows Stream, YouTube, TubeMate, Adobeshow
AUDIO: Pandora, TuneIN Radio, MP3 Music Download, Music Search and Download, SoundHound

6- I cannot use Titanium Backup on non-rooted G Tablet
I have Titanium on my non-rooted device and it allows me to back up my applications to DropBox, but does not allow using its other batch operations.

7- I cannot transfer the applications to the SD Card.
G-tablet already has lots of internal memory space and can easily accommodate many applications. Simply keep your data, music etc on the SD card and leave the applications in the internal memory, they work smoother and faster anyway.

8- I cannot use the new Skype 2 on G Tablet.
You probably had previous version of Skype on your G Tablet. Skype 2 can be installed after a factor rest on a device that did not have previous versions of Skype. At least that is how it installed on mine and some others. New G-tablet users should not experience this problem if they download Skype2.

9- I do not like the facebook that comes with G Tablet.
Download standard Facebook application from the markets above.

10- Gtablet does not synchronize with my Google calendar and Contacts.
Use Your Google account via standard Gmail website. G Tablet's 7" or 10” screen are big enough for reading the Google Calendar details as well as Google contacts online! However, for ease of access to contacts, simply go to the G Tablet Contacts application, click on the + sign and download your Google Contact list. You can do this every time you make a change to your contact list on Google.

11- I do not like the Email, contact and calendar applications that come with G Tablet.
That is a matter of personal preference, but you can download what you like from the market lists above. I personally use GO Contacts (but still use the gtab contact for import), Mail Droid for my email accounts and Jorte as calendar. I also used Holiday to calendar to import US holidays to my calendar. The applications should be on Blackmart,…. Markets

12. I can not use Google Docs with G Tablet.
Either go directly to Google Document website or download QuickOffice Pro which gives you direct access to your Google Docs as well as DropBox.

Android Assistant , Quick Uninstall and Lookout are also great compliments to the G Tablet. First one gives you the possibility of boosting up, Cleaning the cache and the system as well as file management etc, second one is a very fast way to remove unwanted application with only one click and the last one keeps you secure from harmful non-market applications. Android Assistant and Outlook will always be accessible and shown in your notification area on the top of the screen if you properly adjust their settings.

G Tablet is not perfect, so is nothing else, but for the $269 (using the coupon from Office depot ), it is well worth what it offers. ViewSonic can make its G tablets operating system more standard (May be once their contract with TapnTap ends). They may have saved money by not contracting with Google which may have lead them to offering the Tablets at lower price than others , but they could have sold lot more Gtabs had they used the standard android format which would have increased their profit margin even more.

I consider myself a rookie because I prefer using my time doing things other than installing and reinstalling ROMS, etc with no pay. Instead , I use my G Tablet for work, productivity and entertainment. I also believe in the concept of: If it is not broken, don’t fix it. By sharing this information, the time I spent learning the hard way, has not gone to waste J
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So you're telling US not to do what WE want to with OUR tablets, because you found apps that make it do what we want to already? (kinda?)

Find me an app that puts the entire Honeycomb 3.0 OS on my tablet, and I'll buy a whole new gTab and never root it. Ever.
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You must have not read the FIRST paragraph! So many articles have been written about how good rooting is and I didn't see anyone get offended!

In my case, if I want to own a WORKING tablet with Honeycomb 3 , I buy something else and not what Gtab was intended for.

Do as you wish with your tablet and in life always :-)
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You must have not read the FIRST paragraph! So many articles have been written about how good rooting is and I didn't see anyone get offended!

In my case, if I want to own a WORKING tablet with Honeycomb 3 , I buy something else and not what Gtab was intended for.

Do as you wish with your tablet and in life always :-)
Fair enough.

As for a "WORKING tablet with Honeycomb 3", that's exactly what I had with Bottle of Smoke, minus a camera. Then again, who's going to use 10" tablet for taking pictures?

Spending $300 for a gTab and installing HC on it > spending $600 for a tablet with HC preinstalled that does the same thing.
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Hi David

Welcome to the forums!

Great write up.

First comment, yeah, most people who root or install custom roms are "tinkerers" so flashing roms on a daily is nothing to us.

Anyways, one suggestion... If you don't want to install a custom rom, at least consider installing a custom recovery like clockwork. Clockwork is great for backing up your entire set up just in case something goes wrong. It looks like you put a lot of work in researching and installing apps on your gtab. What I've found with stock roms is that they get corrupted pretty easily. You'll know it's corrupt when you start getting "acore" force closes. Most of the time, wiping cache or data can fix it. However, with the acore errors, you won't be able to get to the tapntap settings to wipe cache/data because it'll keep giving you those errors. Best option is to wipe data or cache in Clockwork Recovery. You can also revert back to your last back up file if necessary.

Also, one more thing. Check your PMs, please.
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Thank You for the kind welcome and good words. I sure will look in to the Clockwork Recovery :-)
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Oh, and I seem to put myself in a negative light, now that I re-read my posts.

I wasn't trying to post in a hostile manner, if that's how it came across. Welcome to the forums!
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I just noticed that the ES File Explorer that comes with the G Tablet comes with more options that I gave it credit for including uninstall of applications, so the Quick Uninstall Application that I recommended is not necessary. In general I avoid having applications that do the same thing to keep the Gtab clean and with less problems.

Also since the write , I had some issues with Mail Droid which is the only application that I had recently installed and noted in this article. So for now I stick to the Email that comes with the Gtab which I actually like its look anyway.
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Hi David

Welcome to the forums!

Great write up.

First comment, yeah, most people who root or install custom roms are "tinkerers" so flashing roms on a daily is nothing to us.

Anyways, one suggestion... If you don't want to install a custom rom, at least consider installing a custom recovery like clockwork. Clockwork is great for backing up your entire set up just in case something goes wrong. It looks like you put a lot of work in researching and installing apps on your gtab. What I've found with stock roms is that they get corrupted pretty easily. You'll know it's corrupt when you start getting "acore" force closes. Most of the time, wiping cache or data can fix it. However, with the acore errors, you won't be able to get to the tapntap settings to wipe cache/data because it'll keep giving you those errors. Best option is to wipe data or cache in Clockwork Recovery. You can also revert back to your last back up file if necessary.

Also, one more thing. Check your PMs, please.
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I did try installing Clockwork via SD card both by use of power+volume up and also by installing ROM Manager, neither of which worked. I can only presume that is because my device is not rooted which in that case I will seek other options. As a matter of fact I have not been experiencing Force Closes since I un-rooted my device. However if you or anyone knows a work around to install Clock Work Recovery on un-rooted G Tablet please advise. Thanks

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I had the following issues with stock:
1) things would FC on me fairly often. It was rare I got more than an hour of use without an FC.
2) GMail, GVoice, GTalk are critical apps for me. I use them on my phone and want the same ones on my tablet (personal preference).

For those reasons, and for simplicity, I went with TnTLite. I have far less issues with it. (Those PopCap games freeze.) I don't plan to change until the HC ROMs have been stable for a couple months.
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I did try installing Clockwork via SD card both by use of power+volume up and also by installing ROM Manager, neither of which worked. I can only presume that is because my device is not rooted which in that case I will seek other options. As a matter of fact I have not been experiencing Force Closes since I un-rooted my device. However if you or anyone knows a work around to install Clock Work Recovery on un-rooted G Tablet please advise. Thanks

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Don't use ROM manager. It doesn't work well with the gtab...sometimes.

I have to ask...how did you root the first time? The gtab doesn't need to be rooted to install a custom recovery or custom rom using the stock recovery method. The Gtab is a very open device where the standard recovery will let you install anything. Custom roms are already pre-rooted.

I wonder what method you used to root or did you install a custom rom? If so, which one? Using the standard recovery rather than clockwork makes the custom rom more unstable than if you would have used clockwork.
Anyways, before trying to install clockwork. Make sure you are using the right version for the correct bootloader. If you don't know which bootloader you are on, go to settings>about tablet and check to see what version of TapnTap UI you are on. Any version prior to 3991 should indicate that you are on BL 1.1. If you are, then try using the non sd card method found on this post.

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I had the following issues with stock:
1) things would FC on me fairly often. It was rare I got more than an hour of use without an FC.
2) GMail, GVoice, GTalk are critical apps for me. I use them on my phone and want the same ones on my tablet (personal preference).

For those reasons, and for simplicity, I went with TnTLite. I have far less issues with it. (Those PopCap games freeze.) I don't plan to change until the HC ROMs have been stable for a couple months.
the HC ROMs are stable now, just not fully functioning, so it all depends on what you do with your tablet. CM7.0.3 works great, I didnt find anything that didnt work that you would actually need.
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It is version 1.1 3588. Should I upgrade it? From where?
I used superoneclick when I rooted.
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I had the following issues with stock:
1) things would FC on me fairly often. It was rare I got more than an hour of use without an FC.
2) GMail, GVoice, GTalk are critical apps for me. I use them on my phone and want the same ones on my tablet (personal preference).

For those reasons, and for simplicity, I went with TnTLite. I have far less issues with it. (Those PopCap games freeze.) I don't plan to change until the HC ROMs have been stable for a couple months.
Gmail works on stock Gtablet. I am also informed of Google voice messages and can read and respond to them. Not being a phone , Gtab can not use the call feature anyway. Gtalk. Also works as is. The biggest draw back to me has been the Calender which is not sync with Google.
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the HC ROMs are stable now, just not fully functioning, so it all depends on what you do with your tablet. CM7.0.3 works great, I didnt find anything that didnt work that you would actually need.
How long have you been using it "without" problem and what is not functioning?
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DavidET,

Thanks for this great information. The info on where to download apps outside of the Android Market is particularly of interest. I think no matter what we do with these Android devices, phones included they will still be subject to glitches and idiosyncrasies. It is of course always safer not to modify or experiment. I have spent countless hours fiddling with various Android and other devices. I think some people would rather do this than play golf. I am one of them.
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Thanks for this great information. The info on where to download apps outside of the Android Market is particularly of interest. I think no matter what we do with these Android devices, phones included they will still be subject to glitches and idiosyncrasies. It is of course always safer not to modify or experiment. I have spent countless hours fiddling with various Android and other devices. I think some people would rather do this than play golf. I am one of them.
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Don't use ROM manager. It doesn't work well with the gtab...sometimes.

I have to ask...how did you root the first time? The gtab doesn't need to be rooted to install a custom recovery or custom rom using the stock recovery method. The Gtab is a very open device where the standard recovery will let you install anything. Custom roms are already pre-rooted.

I wonder what method you used to root or did you install a custom rom? If so, which one? Using the standard recovery rather than clockwork makes the custom rom more unstable than if you would have used clockwork.
Anyways, before trying to install clockwork. Make sure you are using the right version for the correct bootloader. If you don't know which bootloader you are on, go to settings>about tablet and check to see what version of TapnTap UI you are on. Any version prior to 3991 should indicate that you are on BL 1.1. If you are, then try using the non sd card method found on this post.

[HOW TO]: Root, Install a Custom ROM, Fix the Market, and Add Flash

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It is version 1.1 3588. Should I upgrade it? From where?
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Ok cool! You're on Bootloader 1.1. You can go a couple of ways. There are Froyo, Gingerbread and HC roms for your bootloader so you don't need to upgrade.

You don't need to use any root apps to root. All you have to do is install the clockwork file that I pointed you to.
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Ok cool! You're on Bootloader 1.1. You can go a couple of ways. There are Froyo, Gingerbread and HC roms for your bootloader so you don't need to upgrade.

You don't need to use any root apps to root. All you have to do is install the clockwork file that I pointed you to.
Worked smoothly. I already backed up too. Thanks for walking me through it :-)
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For the most part I agree with your post. However, I can't download Audible and it's driving me to distraction. This is really the only reason I want to root my tablet. Any suggestions?
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For the most part I agree with your post. However, I can't download Audible and it's driving me to distraction. This is really the only reason I want to root my tablet. Any suggestions?
Just go to the Amazon android application store (see link in article) and download Audible.
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Thanks for the tip and thanks for the article. It came at just the right time.
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Not being a phone , Gtab can not use the call feature anyway. Gtalk. Also works as is. The biggest draw back to me has been the Calender which is not sync with Google.
Actually, I have a regular phone number for my GTab and I can make/receive FREE regular calls (local or LD) any time I am within range of WiFi. I can do video chats or just a plain phone call. I can do Bluetooth or use the speaker. I also have HDMI out, and unlimited (free) texting to/from any other text-enabled phone. It works great - including sync with Google Calendar. I have instructions on my website:
GTab works for REGULAR phone calls.

I have also included full instructions for installing ClockworkMod and custom roms. I have explained the bootloader issue (primary reason people "brick" their GTab) and instructions for determining which version you have and how to change it and how to UN-brick a GTab.

I have tried the stock Tap-N-Tap (both versions) and there is NO WAY that it comes close to my CM7.0.3. Primarily because it is so much faster. But also because it so easily syncs up with my other Google-enabled services & devices.

Nubie users using my guide often finish flashing CM7 in 30 mins or less.

But, as you said, it is a personal decision.
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Actually couple of days ago I did install GrooveIP and have been using Google voice on both Gtab and my android phone. In my case, being in Brazil, I am now able to call US at no charge as a local call. However because my tablet is not rooted I am unable to call the contacts from within the contact list (using GVoice) and I have tried many different contact and dialer applications in addition to the stock.

I simply use a headphone when I want privacy. Having only ONE Google number it forwards to all my phones numbers wherever I might be in the world, being Tmobile USA, Oi Brazil or Land Line at no cost to either party.

Having said that, considering that my phone has Google Voice , I do not see much reason to use Gtablet as a phone but in case the battery is out or cell is not available, it is a good feature to have.

As for using the G-tablet outside a WIFI Zone, I have "Wireless Tether" installed on my android phone. This way I am not dependent on the wireless carrier bring in Brazil or US, no matter who my 3G is coming from.

All this from a non-rooted $269 tablet , I think I am getting more than I bargained for.

By the way, I have not been able to share GPS and I have played with the recommended applications.
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As for using the G-tablet outside a WIFI Zone, I have "Wireless Tether" installed on my android phone. This way I am not dependent on the wireless carrier bring in Brazil or US, no matter who my 3G is coming from.

All this from a non-rooted $269 tablet , I think I am getting more than I bargained for.

By the way, I have not been able to share GPS and I have played with the recommended applications.
I also did the tether but now I have mifi which frees me from the cellphone entirely.
I am totally in agreement about getting our money's worth!
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Thanks DavidET for the write up. You don't see too many write ups on not to root. I decided to root my G pad, and I'm really pleased with the Brilliant Corners Froyo ROM that I upgraded to. I didn't try the stock version (in fact, my Gpad seemed to have been rooted already by a previous owner, but it looks brand new, so oh well), but it's good to hear that it may not be as bad as the reviews have said.
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I read Davidet's article "do not root your G Tablet" with great interest because since I rooted my G tablet I experienced nothing but trouble. I would like to un-root it and return to factory settings but I don't know what is the proper way to un-root. Can any one help.
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I read Davidet's article "do not root your G Tablet" with great interest because since I rooted my G tablet I experienced nothing but trouble. I would like to un-root it and return to factory settings but I don't know what is the proper way to un-root. Can any one help.
Flash a stock Rom.

make sure you get the one for the proper bootloader
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I read Davidet's article "do not root your G Tablet" with great interest because since I rooted my G tablet I experienced nothing but trouble. I would like to un-root it and return to factory settings but I don't know what is the proper way to un-root. Can any one help.
You can always perform a NVFlash and restore it.

Probably the best way to start fresh with a stock ROM.

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I also did the tether but now I have mifi which frees me from the cellphone entirely.
I am totally in agreement about getting our money's worth!
What is MIFI?????
By the way, I have Clemsyn and Caulkulin v8 Installed. It's ridiculously fast!
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You can always perform a NVFlash and restore it.

Probably the best way to start fresh with a stock ROM.

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THank you for your input. I did as suggested in "NV Flash for dummies" and lo and behold it worked. Only one problem. The search utility in the buil in WEATHER application does not respond so I am now stuck with 4 locations that are useless to me whereas originally I could chose any location in the world. Is there any way to fix this perhaps by downloading the application? I liked that application and used it all the time.
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THank you for your input. I did as suggested in "NV Flash for dummies" and lo and behold it worked. Only one problem. The search utility in the buil in WEATHER application does not respond so I am now stuck with 4 locations that are useless to me whereas originally I could chose any location in the world. Is there any way to fix this perhaps by downloading the application? I liked that application and used it all the time.
Sorry I have know clue how stock roms work. I only had my gtab on the stock ROM for maybe a week.
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I believe that most geeks agree that although the G Tablet has very good specs it comes with poor firmware and restrictions. It is also genelally agreed that by routing it and flashing custom ROMs it can become as good as an iPad for half the price. The problem as I see it is that most people don't have the expertise or the time to do a good job of it and they end up screwing up. My question is this: Why can't someone who has the knowledge and time prepare a micro SD, with all the necessary files including a good custom ROM and of course Android Market, and instructions that would upgrade the G Tablet and other tablets and market it for a profit. I for one would gladly pay a reasonable price for this service.,
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What is MIFI?????
By the way, I have Clemsyn and Caulkulin v8 Installed. It's ridiculously fast!
Mifi is a portable hotspot. Here's the wiki explaining it:

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/MiFi

I have a mifi I bought at Walmart for Virgin Mobile. It's a pay as you go service. However, since my vibrant can act as a hotspot, I use that instead.
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Mifi is a portable hotspot. Here's the wiki explaining it:

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/MiFi

I have a mifi I bought at Walmart for Virgin Mobile. It's a pay as you go service. However, since my vibrant can act as a hotspot, I use that instead.
Ahh, yeah, thanks for the reply, I actually Googled it. As long as I can tether to my phone I personally won't shell out for one of these. Also using Share GPS and Bluetooth GPS to share that to the tablet.
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I believe that most geeks agree that although the G Tablet has very good specs it comes with poor firmware and restrictions. It is also genelally agreed that by routing it and flashing custom ROMs it can become as good as an iPad for half the price. The problem as I see it is that most people don't have the expertise or the time to do a good job of it and they end up screwing up. My question is this: Why can't someone who has the knowledge and time prepare a micro SD, with all the necessary files including a good custom ROM and of course Android Market, and instructions that would upgrade the G Tablet and other tablets and market it for a profit. I for one would gladly pay a reasonable price for this service.,
I think the answer would be that someone would be profiting off the work of others, and all heck would break loose. I don't know of a ROM that is solely the work of one developer, so to market it would require the approval of everyone who contributed, plus the division of the profits. Much easier to offer it for free and ask for donations.

Basically all the stuff and materials you want are out there, but you do have to put all the pieces together yourself. It's not too much work, considering the time and effort spent by the developers to put the ROM's out there.
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i just wish they would do an update...last one i think was in april...
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Thanks for your input. Since my original writing I did some research and I came upon an outfit called DROITPIRATES that aqppear to be marketting through E-Bay something close to what I am looking. The link is eBay - New & used electronics, cars, apparel, collectibles, sporting goods & more at low prices . Has anyone tried this before?
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Sorry about that the link did not copy for some reason. I will try once more:eBay - New & used electronics, cars, apparel, collectibles, sporting goods & more at low prices
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wow, interesting but I find it odd. I got the gtablet last November and rooted it, applied some patches and moved on to ROM's. I never had any issues on the custom ROM's, only stock before. I understand it has gotten better, I did stay on it for a short time while I switched from 1.1 to 1.2. I did go to a honeycomb ROM though, and have no issues.
Overall switching from stock to custom ROM's has saved me more time, when I first bought this tablet I thought I wasted my money but after rooting it and getting a ROM that fixed what VS messed up I was really happy and surprised on the good deal I ended up with.
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wow, interesting but I find it odd. I got the gtablet last November and rooted it, applied some patches and moved on to ROM's. I never had any issues on the custom ROM's, only stock before. I understand it has gotten better, I did stay on it for a short time while I switched from 1.1 to 1.2. I did go to a honeycomb ROM though, and have no issues.
Overall switching from stock to custom ROM's has saved me more time, when I first bought this tablet I thought I wasted my money but after rooting it and getting a ROM that fixed what VS messed up I was really happy and surprised on the good deal I ended up with.

I agree, after putting honeycomb on it, i feel like i got a 500$ tab for only 260$. What makes it better is that those 500$ tabs dont have a microsd slot or a full size USB port
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I was surprised and so very happy to run across David's comment today on this subject as I thought I had read just about everything on here and other places regarding rooting the Gtab. I wish I had the technical ability to understand all the hard work that developers put into the rooting processes. I'd give my right arm and maybe a few other things if I just could follow it. Sometimes it seems logical, then I read further posts and I just lose the flow of comprehension.

I also agree with the idea of having someone supply an SD card with everything ready to go for us newbies and those who just want the ease of rooting. But I also realize the time and money issues involved. SO...with that being said, I'm going to leave my G tab as it is. I'm on stock 1.2. It's the latest. Maybe someday Viewsonic will have an update, maybe not. In any case I'll be looking more into the options presented in this thread and see what happens.

Best of luck to all you G-tab'ers. And a special thanks to David and all his research. This has made my day.

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I ordered the all inclusive SD micro for rooting and upgrading my G tablet from DroitPirates for $12.99. When I install it I will report results.
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I ordered the all inclusive SD micro for rooting and upgrading my G tablet from DroitPirates for $12.99. When I install it I will report results.
Have your received the SD Micro yet and how are things going?
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You must have not read the FIRST paragraph! So many articles have been written about how good rooting is and I didn't see anyone get offended!

In my case, if I want to own a WORKING tablet with Honeycomb 3 , I buy something else and not what Gtab was intended for.

Do as you wish with your tablet and in life always :-)
Unfortunately there are those of us who want to use the tablet for a list of progs. I don't want to be a rom guru. The info was spot on and gave me exactly what I was looking for after getting this back from repair....(WHAT A NIGHTMARE THAT WAS)

I didn't read shouldn't, I read I didn't need to.
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Well I wrote this whole elegant reply and "selected all" to copy so that I would have it in case my reply disappeared. Well I selected all and accidently hit the "w" before I copied and it all got deleted. Grrrrr... so I'm not spending another 45 minutes getting this all just right etc etc... it was basically all about how easy it was to root and not to be discouraged.. just go to this gtablet for dummies site... took me all of an hour and I didn't even know what root meant: ROM - Viewsonic GTablet For Dummies .I did it last July and have never had to troubleshoot anything ...for 249$ and an hour I have a practically top of the line tablet.


Now that I look at my other post about my evo... I rooted my gtablet in May. It was so easy that I decided to root my year old evo 4g. It was like a brand new phone... love it; however, that process was not as simple as the dummy site for the gtablet.
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A friend and I both bought gtablets. He's running CM7, and I'm running VeganTab Ginger. Neither one of us are really satisfied with the results. His wife needs to video chat and he says it's wonky, and I have lots of issues like random browser and game FCs and wake up issues.

I've been a ROM guy since my G1, but it always seems like I settle on some quasi-official release for stability. I'm thinking of going back to rooted stock and adding the market and a better launcher (VTL is nice).

My worry is that in this case, maybe stock OS actually isn't that stable. I didn't spend more than a few days on it to start with.
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Breagh. Went back to stock with CWM, rooted, added gapps, market fix, and VTL Launcher. Now I get a bunch of Google Framework force-closes.

I hate the "Settings" setup on stock. The options are all arranged weirdly and some stuff is missing.

Is it true that none of the custom kernels support the dual-core processor? I thought I read somewhere that they were only using one core (albeit overclocked in most cases).
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