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Old May 15th, 2011, 04:32 AM   #1 (permalink)
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according to 2.3 spec, yes. however those of us that are waiting for the official update won't know till tomorrow. Anybody who has flashed an early release got any info on the battery life?
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Anybody who has flashed an early release got any info on the battery life?
If you check the Gingerbread sticky, there are a few folk who mention it has drastically improved battery life. It's difficult to wade through though, but here's one of the posts to mention it -

HTC Gingerbread update.

Don't have it as of yet so I can't really comment, but the general consensus is yes.
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Certainly looking forward to tomorrows OTA update!
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I can say that my battery has vastly improved since the gingerbread update. Along with Juice defender, i can now get over a days heavy use.

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Seems to have done for me, maybe my imagination though
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Undeniably yes For me anyway, I know others have had a few issues.

Presently, I'm 1 day, 13 hours and 3 mins since last charge and I've 41% remaining. It's not been hammered, but I've made 27 mins worth of voice calls, 25-30 Texts, Wifi/3G has only been for about half an hour and I've recorded a 5 min video and took about 4-5 photos. Even so, on that usage in Froyo, I was most likely sitting at 20% or so.

I'll post a screen shot when it's about to die.
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Be little caution before going 2.3.3

I have only had a day on my Desire HD but battery life seems to be completely screwed, In cradle all night, woke up to find not quite fully charged!! put back on charge, finally got green.

Nearly flat now, 6 hours into the day with almost NO use.

Only done few seconds googling but lots of Nexus owners seem to be struggling to get past half a day with little or no use.

With 2.2 I usually had a couple of days without charge on my fairly light use, but lots of wifi & some GPS.

Going to do more research but beware!


-- Seems to back to normal now but still early days,
Had full charge and managed 13 hours up time, little use but still got 60% left so I feel about as before.
Not sure what if/fixed it.
From other threads might be one of the following:-
Forgot & re-established connection to my WiFi routers.
Immediately after the 2.3.3. update I set the WiFi advanced setting to Best Wf-Fi performance, some say this alone can have quite a high power drain, always have had it off before but did seem to struggle to choose the best router so I thought would give it a go & forgot I had.
Perhaps simply running battery down & full recharge recalibrated the battery, I did not do charge/power/remove etc etc. others refer to, not sure what the exact procedure for this is anyway.
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I think Gingerbread has helped. I've had my HD for nearly 4 months and have an idea which number to expect on my battery widget in the mornings (Battery Indicator Pro displays a % number). I've noticed I've been pleasantly surprised after the update..hardly a scientific opinion though!

I tried Greenpower for a while with 2.2.1 but started getting mobile internet problems (though GiffGaff were having internet outages, so it's hard to say whether it was the app, or a combination). Took it off and no mobile internet problems since.

Now battery saver app-less. I've read mixed reviews about Juice Defender; wondering whether that's worth a try. I've read JD can also cause mobile internet problems! (I don't mean Jack Daniels )!

PS: Had no issues with Wi-fi whatsoever, by the way.
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My battery life has tripled, no exaggeration, before hand (i had that update that got pulled because of the sms probs) I would get about 8 hours of use with 3g on and a lil browsing + ebuddy app, now that same use probably uses about 30% of my battery, this is great, shame it didn't come sooner, am happy with my phone now finally
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Yes I do believe it as, I also seem to be getting a stronger mobile signal!
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Wish mine was, no difference whatsoever
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Mine has lastly improved too. Got through whole weekend without charging. Also I think my signal strength has improved.
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Mine has lastly improved too. Got through whole weekend without charging. Also I think my signal strength has improved.
grrrr
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Admittedly, WiFi was off for most of the time, but that's with 40 mins worth of voice calls, 40ish texts, 5-10 mins of video usage and 10 or so pics.

Interestingly, since updating to Gingerbread, that's the first time I've seen Android OS in the battery usage.
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Admittedly, WiFi was off for most of the time, but that's with 40 mins worth of voice calls, 40ish texts, 5-10 mins of video usage and 10 or so pics.

Interestingly, since updating to Gingerbread, that's the first time I've seen Android OS in the battery usage.
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Given your issues, I do actually feel slightly bad about posting that...
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At the moment I'm not too bad.

6h 6m on battery - 87%

Display - 43%
Android System = 12%
Dialer - 12%
Cell Standby - 10%
Phone Idle - 9%
Lookout - 6% (Only just installed)
Wifi - 6%
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Been on battery 12 hours and on 50% charge left.

Calls of 35 mins, 20 text, 20 mins of games and about an hour web surfing on 3g.

Must have improved at least double or more since upgrade because before with that use the phone would have been dead! Very happy
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I've had my phone since the end of January and have noticed a definate improvement in the battery life with the update. I can hammer mine all day, wi fi/mobile internet etc and not have to worry at all about battery life.
I didn't have any issues with any apps or Wi Fi dropping out either.
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My battery use is allot worse. could easily get a day and a half before the update, now with the same use I am lucky to get through a day. Tried everything to get it better, only solution I have found is to turn the phone off, and only switch it on when I need to use it. HTC seem un interested in helping sort the issue, so have gone from a loyal HTC customer, to one who would happily use any other phone but HTC or for that matter at the moment anything other than android.

The new features that have been put in gingerbread are totally destroyed by the atrocious battery life.

NOT A HAPPY HTC OR ANDROID USER

Maybe htc need to actually test their updates, it's not like they had long enough to test it out.
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I'm with El Presidente on this one:



I still maintain that its easily possible to get this kind of life out the our DHDs by being proactive about app monitoring and using the tools available to everyone within the phones as standard. I'd be interested to know of all the people complaining of crap life which of those maintain their laptop/pc on a regular basis with disc defrag, cleanup and registry optimisation? These little palm sized wonders should be treated with equal enthusiasm.
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Made no difference to mine, potentially worse. I'm abroad right now and mobile network is off all the time and just get a day's worth.
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Mine has increased by 40% at least, now getting 2.5 days out of it with heavy use and everything turned on 4 email accounts syncing, twitter facebook updating every hour.

After updating software i also done a hard reset, might be worth doing.

Very happy now as before i was lucky if i got 1 day of use.
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Mines increased, too. 25 hours since I charged and currently at 66%. The last 2 charges have lasted about two and a half days, and this looks like being similar. Wifi is on continuously (incidentally without any dropping out problems), but I don't sync with facebook etc.
I'm also loving the new vibrance of the screen.
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I still maintain that its easily possible to get this kind of life out the our DHDs by being proactive about app monitoring and using the tools available to everyone within the phones as standard. I'd be interested to know of all the people complaining of crap life which of those maintain their laptop/pc on a regular basis with disc defrag, cleanup and registry optimisation? These little palm sized wonders should be treated with equal enthusiasm.
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but how do you get to that screenshot above that shows what has used the battery? And presumably to 're-set' it so that you can see how much you are getting, do you just turn the phone off and back on and that re-sets that time usage setting?

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Sorry if this is a dumb question, but how do you get to that screenshot above that shows what has used the battery? And presumably to 're-set' it so that you can see how much you are getting, do you just turn the phone off and back on and that re-sets that time usage setting?

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Not a dumb question at all.

Settings -> About Phone -> Battery -> Battery Use.

To reset the time usage, charge it for a couple of minutes, then take it off charge again. I don't believe turning it on or off again changes that figure.
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Thanks El Presidente, I found it now.

Do you know what the difference is between the setting called 'Dialer' and 'Voice Calls'? I would have thought they were the same, but in the example screenshot above they have different values...??
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Not a dumb question at all.

Settings -> About Phone -> Battery -> Battery Use.

To reset the time usage, charge it for a couple of minutes, then take it off charge again. I don't believe turning it on or off again changes that figure.
Spot on the on/off again won't change anything as it just starts counting from when you remove it from the charger. So to get an accurate idea install Current Widget from the market and plonk it on your homescreen. Put your phone on charge and as soon as the marker hits 0mA unplug and leave it and use your phone as normal then as soon as you hit 15% go to the above setting to see how long your phones been on without charging.

To take the screenshot though without root you'd need to use the android sdk and use your computer. Guide for which is here: Taking Screenshots on HTC Desire

Or root your phone and download screenshot app lol
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Do you know what the difference is between the setting called 'Dialer' and 'Voice Calls'? I would have thought they were the same, but in the example screenshot above they have different values...??
Dialer is what's used to dial calls and voice calls is the actual call time on that particular charge.

It's discussed a little -

Battery readings since 2.3.3 Update & Dialer?

It's not known why it appears to be using so much battery in GB.
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Uh oh, bad news on the battery front....

I upgraded to 2.3.3 this morning, fully charged it at about 11.30am and the battery is now flat (6.5 hours later!). I sent about 5 texts, made no calls, didnt browse the internet, and my email is set to check for updates once an hour

I did notice that the 'best wi-fi performance' setting was selected, so I dont know if this has had an effect (and I dont know if this was in 2.2 and if it was if I had it selected).

This is not good news, as getting better battery life by moving to GB was my main reason for doing it.

Has anyone got any ideas what might be causing this? Do I need to re-condition the battery again?

ready to throw it in the bin at the moment...
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I did notice that the 'best wi-fi performance' setting was selected, so I dont know if this has had an effect (and I dont know if this was in 2.2 and if it was if I had it selected)
Yes. When I have this set (normally at work), it can eat up as much as 1% every ten minutes even when not doing anything. Turn it off, see if that makes a difference.
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Yes. When I have this set (normally at work), it can eat up as much as 1% every ten minutes even when not doing anything. Turn it off, see if that makes a difference.
yes, I've turned that off now and will re-charge and then see what happens...
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Well, I've done several tests with mine the last few days. I've been texting less and noticed that with Wifi set to switch off after 15mins, I've been going from 7am to 2pm and dropping to about 80-85%, on Froyo with probably more usage I was getting 70% so don't think much difference.

Went to a customer site yesterday afternoon. Was on about 85% at 2pm, was texting a bit, browsing net a bit until 5pm and emailing missus for hour and it dropped to 45% by 5.30. I then had bluetooth on for 30mins while in the car and a quick 5min call to missus. Got home and it hit 30% and power saver

Also noticed that power was the same whether Wifi was on or no
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Uh oh, bad news on the battery front....

I upgraded to 2.3.3 this morning, fully charged it at about 11.30am and the battery is now flat (6.5 hours later!). I sent about 5 texts, made no calls, didnt browse the internet, and my email is set to check for updates once an hour

I did notice that the 'best wi-fi performance' setting was selected, so I dont know if this has had an effect (and I dont know if this was in 2.2 and if it was if I had it selected).

This is not good news, as getting better battery life by moving to GB was my main reason for doing it.

Has anyone got any ideas what might be causing this? Do I need to re-condition the battery again?

ready to throw it in the bin at the moment...

Could be conflicting with another app. I was using Green Power to manage my wireless/ data connections and after GB update had the same issue as you, getting no more than 7 hours out of a full charge an no use (ie overnight). I have removed the GP app and am now 2ds and 35 mins since last charge and medium usage.
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Bizarrely I woke this morning only to find my clock 10mins fast. Just come into work, still fast, although just jumped on Facebook and noticed it's corrected itself
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Could be conflicting with another app. I was using Green Power to manage my wireless/ data connections and after GB update had the same issue as you, getting no more than 7 hours out of a full charge an no use (ie overnight). I have removed the GP app and am now 2ds and 35 mins since last charge and medium usage.
I'll have a try and see if turning any apps off makes a difference, although I dont run that many that are on all the time such as GP

What I did notice was that turning off the 'best wifi perfomance' setting in the advance wi-fi settings made a huge difference (thanks El Presidente!) - I am now at about 18 hours and at 20% battery left since my charge, whereas before when I had the best performance selected (which it turned on by default) my battery was dead after about 6 1/2 hours, and that was with the phone being hardly used.... its still not great but much better with that off
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Bizarrely I woke this morning only to find my clock 10mins fast. Just come into work, still fast, although just jumped on Facebook and noticed it's corrected itself
http://androidforums.com/htc-desire-hd/343466-andriod-clock-10-mins-fast.html

There's a thread about that.

And goalc, what were you getting out of the battery before 2.3.3?
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http://androidforums.com/htc-desire-hd/343466-andriod-clock-10-mins-fast.html

There's a thread about that.

And goalc, what were you getting out of the battery before 2.3.3?
before 2.3 I would get about 12 hours use before the battery was down at 20% approx (I charged it over night, and by 9pm every night it was in power save mode without fail).

I was on 2.2 (I never got the pulled 2.2.1 upgrade) and I didnt use the phone during the day much (as I use my work phone for calls in the day), so only used it for texts (approx 20 text a day) and my pop3 emailed checked for emails once a day. When I was home in the evenings I would do more web browsing etc and a lot more texts, but even then the battery still seemed to drain at a constant rate during the day no matter how much/how little I use it.

My wife has a Samsung Galaxy S and her phone will last for about 2 days before it needs charging, and she uses hers more in the day then I do mine, so that really bugs me .... the good thing is it feels like its made by Fisher Price and is quite laggy, so I can keep reminding her of that
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3 days and 16 hours....now need to charge as it's getting upset and flashing a battery message at me.
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Updated to 2.3.3 this morning and it is sucking the life out of my battery!!!!!

Down to 57% since this morning. Normally on about 75%

Help??
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For those who believe they have battery issues please download CurrentWidget and place it on your homescreen.

I'm guessing most of you just wait to see the green led appear right? As much as you think this should only appear when the battery has charged 100% it isn't always the case.

CurrentWidget shows you how many mA are being charged to the battery and only when this reaches 0ma is the battery fully charged. You can then also using this widget check to make sure that even when your phone shows 0mA that the battery isn't at fault by ensuring the Voltage value is approx 4.20V to 4.25V at 100% anything less is a faulty battery.

However should the green led appear before the 0mA marker this would mean that your batterystats are out of sync and your phone needs calibrating.

This can be done through ClockwordMod Recovery/RootExplorer or an app on the market called "Battery Calibration" from NéMa if rooted. If not you need to follow an extensive charge routine as supplied by HTC:
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this has really improved the batt life, was still squeezing a lil more out of it on 2.2 but will keep playing
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Checked mine this morning after charge. 0Ma and 4.182V, guess that's close enough
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Spent so much time tweaking mine and trying to get a good setup to have bluetooth only running when I need it, I decided to leave as is.

Turned off mobile data, setup WiFi to time out after 15mins and I had 75% still after about 12hours, before I was getting that after only about 6 hours. I then thought ok, I'll leave bluetooth on all the time and see what happens, and I still got the same 12hours yesterday so having bluetooth on, obviously doesn't make much difference.
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Doesn't the Bluetooth time itself out after 2 minutes or something like that?
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Ahhh Mr Presidente. Nope seems to be staying active in the drawer
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Neither it does! I'm sure it did with Froyo though?

Glad to hear your battery life seems to have improved
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For those who believe they have battery issues please download CurrentWidget and place it on your homescreen.

I'm guessing most of you just wait to see the green led appear right? As much as you think this should only appear when the battery has charged 100% it isn't always the case.

CurrentWidget shows you how many mA are being charged to the battery and only when this reaches 0ma is the battery fully charged. You can then also using this widget check to make sure that even when your phone shows 0mA that the battery isn't at fault by ensuring the Voltage value is approx 4.20V to 4.25V at 100% anything less is a faulty battery.

However should the green led appear before the 0mA marker this would mean that your batterystats are out of sync and your phone needs calibrating.

This can be done through ClockwordMod Recovery/RootExplorer or an app on the market called "Battery Calibration" from NéMa if rooted. If not you need to follow an extensive charge routine as supplied by HTC:


HTH
I can't get current widget to display results in the status bar - it keeps a log which I can open and look at, but are real-time stats meant to be displayed in the status bar? If not, is there an app that will do this?
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I can't get current widget to display results in the status bar - it keeps a log which I can open and look at, but are real-time stats meant to be displayed in the status bar? If not, is there an app that will do this?
It's not displayed on the status bar, but via the widget. Hasn't the widget appeared?
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