I've had my HTC Desire S for a few weeks having had a Nokia 5800 XPressMusic before. I've used the sat nav functions on both of them now and unless I'm missing something I'm not sure the one on the HTC is as good as on the Nokia.
What the Nokia was able to do was to allow me, at the press of a button, to scroll through a list of different routes I could take to my destination, or I had the option of putting an address to go via. This came in extremely handy on a number of occasions where the sat nav initially tried to get me to go on one route when I knew that we wanted to go via a different one.
What the HTC seems to do is to say 'this is the way you're going' and doesn't give me an option to change!
For example, at the weekend we'd used the sat nav to drive across country through various towns. I'd put in my home address for the return journey but it then suggested that we go back on a totally different route through Cheddar Gorge in the winter and in the dark! On the Nokia I would have been able to go into a subscreen and keep pressing 'Alternative route' until it came up with the one I wanted (the way we'd travelled up). Even when we turned off the suggested route back on to the road we'd travelled up, it still kept on getting us to turn off to go on to the wrong road.
Has anyone come across this and found a solution, or found another sat nav application that has the 'via' and/or alternative route options?
Google Maps/Navigation will calculate alternative routes. After entering your initial destination and it finding the initial route > Menu > Route Info > Alternative routes (3rd icon from the left) > then select each route to see what it looks like on the map by pressing one of the options on the top > 'Show map' to return to the main screen with your new route.
I don't know any way of doing something similar with the HTC Locations app, although you can set it for shortest or fastest route in the Settings menu. However, I don't use the Premium/paid satnav service, which might have an alternative routes option. On the Route66 website, which powers the HTC satnav app, it says it gives 'alternative route recommendations', but I've no idea if this is the same as what you want.
NavFree claims to give alternative routes based on economy, easiest, fastest, etc, so that might be worth checking out.
I'd be surprised if the well known fee-based satnav apps, like CoPilot, didn't do what you're after - that's if you want to pay for the privilege!
Edit: Also in Navigation (Google Maps) Menu > Route options, and you get the choice to Avoid main roads and tolls.
Last edited by notebook; February 15th, 2012 at 06:28 AM.
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What software are you on? I've had my Desire S for a few months now and have used Locations a number of times. Since the OTA upgrade to Sense 3.0 in January, the 'Trip' function is available. You can set your start and destination with any number of intermediate locations using any of the options from 'Pick a Location'.
The following link takes you to a help page on using 'Trip'.
Thank you both! The alternative route on the Google Navigate is much more helpful than the HTC alternative, though it doesn't seem to give you every available option, only about two or three.
I'm running HTC Sense version 2.1 on my Desire S, which I've probably only had for about a month. Do you think I should be upgrading to a different Sense version?
One thing I do like about the HTC version is the option to put widgets for routes on your home page(s). Its just then getting that navigation option to go on your preferred route rather than one its decided for you that's the tricky bit!
Sense 3.0 has been out now for a good few months and, depending on your network provider, it might be available to you. Most providers have released the Sense 3.0/Android 2.3.5 update.
Menu > Settings > About phone > Software updates > Check now, to see if it's available.
If you don't get it, either call you provider for advice or let us know your phone's software number, Menu > Settings > About phone > Software number and we might be able to suggest (alternative) ways of going about getting the update.
Ah, I've just asked it to check if there are any software updates available but it says there aren't. I'm on T-Mobile so I may well get in touch with them on their helpdesk via Twitter to find out whether or not I'm missing out on something. I'm on contract with them so I'd better do what they tell me otherwise I could get into trouble!
It looks as though there may be some more options available to me by getting an upgrade. As T-Mobile and Orange are sort of joined together now, I'm surprised that one has got the upgrade and not the other, so I'm going to ask! If I find out something interesting, I'll get back in touch.
Ah, just been in touch with T-Mobile and they say that they are not currently aware of updates available for my Desire S, so I'm currently stuck with an older version of Sense. I guess I'll just have to wait and see how long it takes for them to roll it out to their customers!
I wrote a while back that some people have received the Sense 3.0/Android 2.3.5 on T-Mobile - see here and here.
If those reports are true, it's been well over a month since T-Mobile released this update, so I'm surprised that your phone a) didn't already have it as new, b) that you've had it for a few weeks and it still hasn't updated.
Last edited by notebook; February 23rd, 2012 at 11:00 AM.
No, still no update, even though I have tried to update manually. I've just been told that when the upgrade is available I should have an automated message. I'm not too fussed about the upgrade - I've discovered that the Google maps version of Navigation is far superior to HTC's and will definitely be using that in future!
Hi pinkythepolo, I'm interested to know why you think Google Nav is better than HTC Locations. I must admit I do find the satellite view extremely useful but all in all I prefer Locations for navigation despite the fact that it's a paid for option where Google is free, offset of course because you have to have a gprs connection for full functionality with Google. I've got a 16GB SD card and have most of western Europe and USA downloaded and can check a route/navigate irrespective of wifi/gprs availability. What doesn't help with Google Nav is I'm having trouble with the Voice function - it usually doesn't work, which seems to be a historic problem and I've been through all the relevant threads to no avail. I assume you have had no problem in that respect.
Had another play with Google Nav and am now happy that it's working ok. Unlike Locations Premium Nav, the voice function seems to only kick in when GPS locks on to satellites. Before getting my Desire S, I had a HTC Kaiser with Route 66 for Windows Mobile for my sat nav which, like Locations, does not depend on GPS locking on before enabling voice. (Locations also uses Route 66 mapping)
I still prefer Locations, especially so because I think Google's text-to-voice is crap.
Last edited by tommo47; March 4th, 2012 at 03:30 PM.
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I can only go on the two occasions when I have used sat nav on my HTC Desire S which I have only had since the end of January. Some of it could be user error, but anyway!
The first time I used the satnav function I used HTC Locations. I found having the options of putting widgets for the destinations on the home screen very useful. The first time I used it was to go to a village hall in the hills near Bath here in Somerset. The route it selected was fine and we followed it okay, though every now and again it would suggest that I drive straight on and so I would drive straight on at a junction only for the screen to suggest that I'd turned right, or was in the housing estate to the left and should do a U-turn! The route we went to the village hall on was fine and so we planned to come back on exactly the same route, only it decided it wanted to send us on a completely different road that was several miles out of our way. Despite us actually turning down the road that it had guided us up the first time around, all it then did was try to get us to turn off to go back and join the road we didn't want, so we just ignored it!
I then tried Google Navigation last weekend. I must admit that I was a passenger and was only using it as a map guide without the voice. This was a route around the western edges of London and I was far more impressed with it. It gave me three choices of route and we just wanted to adapt that slightly. It was far better at route recalculations and almost immediately re-generated a route to our destination based on the road we had chosen to drive along, rather than Location's determination to get us to turn off on to a road we definitely didn't want to use!
I will be using the satnav function again in the spring (if not before then) when we go on holiday and I will see how Google fares then. I must admit that Locations is very good for finding details of factilities where you are - such as banks, shops, attractions, etc, which is very handy when you are somewhere you don't know, but I think that Google may have a better navigation function only because it offers you a choice of routes and then quickly adapts to any changes you make to that route choice. I have also found - elsewhere in this very helpful forum - the ability to save maps on the pc version of Google Maps and tailor that completely, and then save that to 'My Maps' and access that on the mobile. I love that!!
pinky the polo, there is an update for the desire S but for some reason t moblie wont admit to there being one. do you have the intermitten signal loss and delayed recieving of texts?? (more info on that is here - Signal drops completely - HTC Desire S) im still waiting for the update so my phone actually functions properly as a phone , althought there are reports of people recieving the update on t mobile as early as start of jan.
anyways what sat nav are we talking abt here on the desire s? ive tryed the ones on my hone and they dont seem to work very well. anybody care to explain where they are and how to use them? i normally get the one that says about havin 30 days free then got to upgrade (think i get on this by selecting 'car panel') where the other sat navs or a good app to download?
oh is goin on maps and selecting navigation to go on google navigation the one we are on about and is it any good??
Last edited by leono1; March 22nd, 2012 at 06:55 PM.
Reason: just seen the maps and gooogle navigation on phone
@leono1, there were two nav apps on my Desire S from stock - Maps (Google's own with a blue spot on the icon) and Locations (HTC's own with a red pin on the icon). I've used them both and prefer Locations for the reasons already mentioned earlier in this thread. My Desire S had a 'User Guide' PDF file on the SD card which has a good section on Locations and Maps. If you haven't got it on your SD card you should be able to download it from the HTC website, and I put a link in one of my previous posts to a guide on the new Trips function that came with the HTC Sense 3.0 upgrade.
The main benefit I find with Locations is being able to download as many maps as I want free of charge. You can then plan and review your routes turn by turn, independent of GPRS or WiFi availability, even if you don't pay for the Premium Nav option.
Up to now I've found the maps to be accurate - they are provided by Route66.
Last edited by tommo47; March 23rd, 2012 at 06:29 AM.
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