I've only got the same info as everyone else i.e. what was posted in the article, so I can't definitely answer that. However recent firmware updates have reintroduced the missing characters from the <SYM> menu so I would expect this to be carried over to 2.3.
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We know that you’ve been seeing a number of posts about the Gingerbread update (Android 2.3.3) for HTC Incredible S and HTC Desire HD. Just to let you know that we’re in the final stages of testing here in the UK, just to ensure that the update runs smoothly and will confirm a date for rollout as soon as we can. We really appreciate your patience and support on this.
My wife got the update a few days ago on her Desire HD. Now i want it on my Desire Z. Her phone seems so much smoother after the update so i'm looking forward to it!
Yeah, I read somewhere end of June, but the days are ticking away. They are going to have to hurry. Sadly, My Desire Z may never see Gingerbread if it keeps acting up like this. I'm almost ready to replace it. It seems to overheat after continued gaming (i got addicted to Drag Racing), and it becomes totally unresponsive after awhile. Plus had to get rid of my otterbox for it, as it would overheat after awhile in my pocket.
Yeah, I read somewhere end of June, but the days are ticking away. They are going to have to hurry. Sadly, My Desire Z may never see Gingerbread if it keeps acting up like this. I'm almost ready to replace it. It seems to overheat after continued gaming (i got addicted to Drag Racing), and it becomes totally unresponsive after awhile. Plus had to get rid of my otterbox for it, as it would overheat after awhile in my pocket.
I was talking about this with someone the other day. They got less than a week left of June and we haven't anything since May. DHD came out at the same time and its got it. The Desire came out in March 2010 and its getting it before the Z. I went through the same thing with my HTC Hero, it was meant to be the Flagship phone when it came out and then they just left it for ages before they released an update. As much as I love my Z and HTC they are getting on my nerves especially with Sense. It just doesn't want to work, 5 times out of 10 when I press the home button, Sense will restart. I had the same thing with the Hero too.
True that, which makes you wonder if HTC's software engineers are having problems squeezing it into 256MB less RAM? If so it would be ironic considering I've been running 2.3.3 with Sense 3.0 (essentially the Sensation ROM ported to HVGA) for weeks. If that can be done then surely the "experts" with access to the propriatory Sense source code can do a better job?
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The Desire came out in March 2010 and its getting it before the Z.
Or is it? It was, then HTC announced that it wouldn't be updated due to space constraints, quickly followed by a retraction saying it would but with some content relegated to optional downloads. Since then... nada.
I pray I'm proved wrong, but right now I have a feeling that HTC will say whatever they think their users want to hear. First the so-far unfullfilled promise of unencrypted bootloaders, now this.... I'm not sure if I trust them any longer tbh.
True that, which makes you wonder if HTC's software engineers are having problems squeezing it into 256MB less RAM? If so it would be ironic considering I've been running 2.3.3 with Sense 3.0 (essentially the Sensation ROM ported to HVGA) for weeks. If that can be done then surely the "experts" with access to the propriatory Sense source code can do a better job?
Or is it? It was, then HTC announced that it wouldn't be updated due to space constraints, quickly followed by a retraction saying it would but with some content relegated to optional downloads. Since then... nada.
I pray I'm proved wrong, but right now I have a feeling that HTC will say whatever they think their users want to hear. First the so-far unfullfilled promise of unencrypted bootloaders, now this.... I'm not sure if I trust them any longer tbh.
I am 100% positive that it is possible to give the HD and Z the full blown feature set that is sense 3.0 and Android 2.3.3 seeing as the Virtuous Unity rom delivers exactly that!
I just feel that HTC is releasing so many new phones now that they are dropping support for their previous flagship phones way too early. My wife got Android 2.3.3 on her HD, but she has only got a few of the new addition from sense 3.0 otherwise the GUI hasn't changed.
Either that or we who purchased a Desire HD/Z got the 'bridge' phones which were released to fill the gap before the Incredible S and Sensation which are the current top of the hill models.
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I don't get it, why is everybody crying about not getting Gingerbread? When you do get it I bet you won't be able to tell the difference...
Sense 3.0 looks really nice and is a big change from sense 2.1 as well as bringing bug fixes and optimizations.
Android updates will improve phone performance and fix security issues and bugs.
Why wouldn't we want to update?
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I am 100% positive that it is possible to give the HD and Z the full blown feature set that is sense 3.0 and Android 2.3.3 seeing as the Virtuous Unity rom delivers exactly that!
Exactly!
edit: just noticed a report that Orange rolled 2.3 out to their HD handsets today. By all accounts that's the HD update complete.... so where's ours HTC, huh?
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I don't get it, why is everybody crying about not getting Gingerbread?
People are complaining because
(a) the manufacturer stated months ago that we would get it.
(b) 2.3.x brings added functionality and increased efficiency.
I have been looking on several sites these last few days and noticed a lot of them are showing this quotation from HTC regarding the 2.3 Gingerbread OS being cancelled:
"Our engineering teams have been working hard for the past few months to find a way to bring Gingerbread to the HTC Desire without compromising the HTC Sense experience you’ve come to expect from our phones. However, we’re sorry to announce that we’ve been forced to accept there isn’t enough memory to allow us both to bring Gingerbread and keep the HTC Sense experience on the HTC Desire. We’re sincerely sorry for the disappointment that this news may bring to some of you."
I'm pretty sure somebody out there will have found a way to get this installed on a Desire Z as that was one of the reasons for going for this phone with the antisipation of using 2.3 with it.
Sense 3.0 looks really nice and is a big change from sense 2.1 as well as bringing bug fixes and optimizations.
Android updates will improve phone performance and fix security issues and bugs.
Why wouldn't we want to update?
With the arrival of gingerbread to the Z we won't get sense 3.0. There is an article in gsmarena where they say that we won't get sense 3.0 due to hardware.
With the arrival of gingerbread to the Z we won't get sense 3.0. There is an article in gsmarena where they say that we won't get sense 3.0 due to hardware.
And you wanted to know why people were "Crying"? You just answered your own question.....
Not to mention Virtuous Unity rom that has sense 3.0 and Android 2.3.3 that works buttery smooth on my Desire Z. The Desire HD is more powerful than the Desire Z and it didn't even get the full Sense 3.0 experience (My wife has the latest update for her HD).
I have a feeling HTC wants to try to make it's new flagship model stand out from its older top dogs. I don't see myself buying a new phone just for a new GUI though.
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I have been looking on several sites these last few days and noticed a lot of them are showing this quotation from HTC regarding the 2.3 Gingerbread OS being cancelled:
"Our engineering teams have been working hard for the past few months to find a way to bring Gingerbread to the HTC Desire without compromising the HTC Sense experience you’ve come to expect from our phones. However, we’re sorry to announce that we’ve been forced to accept there isn’t enough memory to allow us both to bring Gingerbread and keep the HTC Sense experience on the HTC Desire. We’re sincerely sorry for the disappointment that this news may bring to some of you."
I'm pretty sure somebody out there will have found a way to get this installed on a Desire Z as that was one of the reasons for going for this phone with the antisipation of using 2.3 with it.
I'm running Android 2.3.4 on mine at the moment. There are heaps of custom roms for the Desire Z that have both Android 2.3.3 and Sense 3.0 if you want that.
It's ahrd to take HTC seriously when i can download and install a rom made by a coder at home and it works perfectly. That HTC with all their engineers and equipment can't figure it out blows my mind.
Last edited by smakme7757; June 30th, 2011 at 04:07 PM.
We are. Smakme's point is valid.... it's difficult to take HTC's claims about 2.3.x seriously when community devs can prove them incorrect. Remember that it was HTC who announced to the world that the HD and Z would be receiving 2.3.x, so it's not unreasonable to expect that they knew what they were talking about.
well, we're well past Mid-Summer's Day. By no stretch of the imagination can we describe July as 'Spring'. So WHEN is the proclaimed update to Android 2.3 aka Gingerbread going to happen? Christmas 2011? 2012?
At a guess I'd say perhaps by the end of this month, going by this article.
I'm not holding my breath. My impression is that HTC is focussing all its efforts on tablets, and new phones for the US market - leaving us in the UK/elsewhere out in the cold ...
quick question regarding whether to update or not due to there being multiple issues with my phone. I hope you don't mind helping me out since this isn't COMPLETELY to do with the update
-turning my phone off was easy, turning it back on meant the sound came on (as though it was loading) but there was no screen picture for 5 or so minutes.
-opening with the keyboard instead of unlocking with the unlock button means the screen doesn't turn on.
-sometimes it takes multiple attempts to unlock with the unlock button; I have to keep pressing it.
-opening with the keyboard in general, as though to text, makes the screen have a blue and yellow tint (I think this is a result of dropping my phone lots and there now being a misconnection between the screen and the keyboard).
I don't want to send it away for repairs, since I have next to no money to buy a phone to get myself by (the poor life of being a student, a girl, and loving spending money on myself and other people :P).
I'm just wondering if I should update, like I want to, or if it's going to be a gamble as to whether my phone turns on again after I update.
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I got my gingerbread update today. My Z is running a bit smoother but no great improvements :P
I'm still on Froyo. I find that when I flip open the keyboard and the home screens switch to landscape mode, it takes quite a while for the home screens to display. The same thing happens when I switch back to portrait. I find that I end up having to remember to close the keyboard before taking any action that takes me back to the home screen to avoid this long delay of several seconds. Does Gingerbread improve the performance when switching the home screens between portrait and landscape?
Not much, but yes i can definitely see a difference. The biggest improvement I've seen so far is when i open "Manage applications". On froyo it took my Z nearly 10 seconds or more to display apps and now it does it almost instantly. With my gingerbread update i got a sense update too. Now it's sense 2.1
Works great and all. Only slightly annoying thing is that my Network connection stopped functioning.
It doesn't matter what I do, I just can't get the connection to function.
It is enabled as it should, and my settings for my APN hasn't changed and my provider, Telia, says everything is working at their end.
Anyone else got this problem with the latest update?
You meant data connection? Ooohh... I'm so NOT getting this update if this is not an isolated case. Anybody got the update without any problems afterwards?
You meant data connection? Ooohh... I'm so NOT getting this update if this is not an isolated case. Anybody got the update without any problems afterwards?
Yupp. Data Connection went bye bye.
Strange thing is that I got it working ONCE after the update and after that it just won't work anylonger.
Perhaps the wrong place, but...
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I'm running Android 2.3.4 on mine at the moment. There are heaps of custom roms for the Desire Z that have both Android 2.3.3 and Sense 3.0 if you want that.
Anyone tried custom roms and got it working properly? (Noticed some people have problems with Virtuous Unity)
The thing i notice after the 2.3 update is that the trackpad wake by using the no lock app has stopped working and any other app which is made to do this not working either.
Do you have any idea how i can enable touchpad wake again (not root device)?
Hi, I've just updated tp 2.3.3 on my desire Z with Vodafone UK, however, most apps have stopped working, especially one of my preferred Navfree. It just won't launch along with many others. Any ideas? My phone worked better on 2.2, how can I revert back to the previous software?
I'm up on 2.3.3 (Build 2.42.707.3 CL104011) finally!
The phone's a tad bit faster and everything seems to be working still. Also noticed a few added features here and there. Is there a link where the features of 2.3.3 are well documented?
I'm not happy about it. The more I read each day, the more I just see "... has got 2.3" "2.3 is now available for.." but nothing about Desire Z
I neeeeeeeed it. My phones dying slowly, all stuff which SHOULD be fixed by the update
I guess they're doing a stepped deployment. I'd imagine that given that the firmwares are region-specific, they're likely to be doing it slowly so in case a problem pops up, they won't have to deal with the whole world.
And oh, my Desire Z has the Asia Pacific firmware. The 2.3.3 update became available on July 28 (my local time is GMT+8). Well at least HTC did a good job sticking to their promise about it being available "by the end of the month".
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