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Old June 24th, 2010, 08:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I heard rumors that google navigation can now be used offline, like any GPS device( Tom tom, Co-pilot 8, Navigon etc..).
Is this true? If so it's the end of all the others GPS companies.

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You can create your own off line maps with this app free on the Market.

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Google Maps had a recent update that included Navigation yes, but it is currently in beta form at the moment so don't expect great things just yet. CoPilot on the Desire is a cracking Sat Nav you should try in the meantime tho..
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Whilst Google does now include the navigation software in google maps, this does not make the maps available offline.

When you are planning your route you need a data connection/wifi. This will cache your route so technically you do not need data connection to get to your destination. HOWEVER, if you take a wrong turning or leave the route, you need a data connection for it to re-route you as it will only cache the roads needed for the chosen route.

So in summary, maps are not available offline; you do still need a data connection.
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Thats exactly the rumor I heard, that there is a google map offline beta.
But since no one here(and some here are buddies with google) confirmed it I guess it is just a rumor.
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How do I at least get navigation on my desire?
The current version does not support it.. It keeps saying "no route found".

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The current version does not support it.. It keeps saying "no route found".

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Install Google Maps from the Marketplace.
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Install Google Maps from the Marketplace.
Google Maps for Android

This is what I can find but when I scan the barcode, it says that nothing is found in the market. Maybe it's been removed?
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Google Maps for Android

This is what I can find but when I scan the barcode, it says that nothing is found in the market. Maybe it's been removed?
I just scanned the QR code (using ShopSavvy) and it took me to google maps in the marketplace just fine.

Why not just open the Market and text search for it if the QR code is not working for you.
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Or you could just get CoPilot. A very good and in depth sat nav.
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Why would anyone pay for Copilot?, google maps are great and getting even better
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Try as I might, I simply cannot gain access to google maps.
I tried the barcode scanner, manually searching in the market, and checking for an update..
Does it depend on location? Why am I unable to update?? I really need the navigation!
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Why would anyone pay for Copilot?, google maps are great and getting even better
So you can have offline maps.

I would never go on a trip to somewhere 'need' GPS and expect to have data connection all the time.

Offline is a must in that case, as far as I'm concerned. That 1 % of the time data isn't available (or in some cases much more than 1%) is exactly when you will need the GPS. Just ask Murphy.
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Try as I might, I simply cannot gain access to google maps.
I tried the barcode scanner, manually searching in the market, and checking for an update..
Does it depend on location? Why am I unable to update?? I really need the navigation!
What country are you in?
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So you can have offline maps.

I would never go on a trip to somewhere 'need' GPS and expect to have data connection all the time.

Offline is a must in that case, as far as I'm concerned. That 1 % of the time data isn't available (or in some cases much more than 1%) is exactly when you will need the GPS. Just ask Murphy.
I must be blessed because I had my Desire for three months and never letted me down on navigation including when I went for a holiday to the Lake District.

I have used it for Northamptonshire, Bedfordshire and Leicestershire and I'm on Tmobile data.

and on voice navigation
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I have discover that you can turn on mobile data, do your directions search and turn off data for a long time driving or until you do a wrong turn, then, turn mobile data on again and then turn it off again. All this assuming that you want to save mobile data of course

Google maps for android and Ovi maps for Nokia are the way forward and this is just the beginning.
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What country are you in?
I'm in Dubai, UAE.
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Or you could just get CoPilot. A very good and in depth sat nav.
Or a proper sat nav
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Is there a free alternative? Preferably with offline map download?
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I found Google Maps Navigation to be terrible on my recent trip from Portsmouth to London, and then back down to Lymington.

The instructions were terrible, those that you could understand in the synthesised voice, that is. Some how instead of sending me to London Zoo it sent me to a café over a mile away, tried taking me the longest, most difficult route out of London via as many residential roads and backstreets, and at points, randomly switched to an earlier route, trying to send me back in the opposite direction (Good job I know my way back to Lymington).

Next trip I take, I'll be purchasing Co-Pilot (although, whilst sorely missing TomTom on my old iPhone).
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Just out of interest, how much is the TomTom software for the iPhone?
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Around £40 for UK & Ireland.
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I'm in Dubai, UAE.
That's why. It's UK & US only for now
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That's why. It's UK & US only for now

That sucks.

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Ok..
I have got the google maps 4.3.0 apk file from somewhere on the net.
If I install it, will it overwrite the default app or make a new one?
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It'll overwrite it, but is unlikely to give you nav.
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Hi, I've been using maps for transit with my htc sensation 4g, and it worked fine, though i noticed it crashes every once in a while, but now it seemed to have acted up pretty bad coz everytime i try to access it with transit mode it says "NO ROUTE FOUND" and continues to give me directions in driving instead.

Has anyone ever had the same problem? how can i fix this? thanks!
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I have Copilot on my Desire after an hour of using it my Desire overheats and reboots had the Mobo changed but it still continues to overheat what I would like to know is if anyone as Copilot sat nav on another make of phone with this same problem
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The overheating issue is generally down to a faulty Mobo on the PVT1 version HTC Desire. Boot into hboot (from off, hold vol down and press power). On the HBOOT screen, it will say PVT1, 2, 3 or 4.

If it's PVT1, its likely that they swapped the mobo for another faulty one. The issue is Desire Specific.
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Thanks will try that boot....... trouble is the darn phone is out of guarantee now
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the 2 years is up for you?

Shame, the replacement part costs more than the phone is worth.

You could ask a mobile phone shop if they could reflow the motherboard...

http://androidforums.com/desire-support-troubleshooting/555979-oven-reflow-method-fixing-bad-main-board.html
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On The Hboot screen it reads PVT 4 does this mean the board is faulty
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PVT 4 didnt necessarily suffer from the issue like the PVT1 did.

PVT4 is no way over the 2 year warranty period though.
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Thanks again..... I purchased my Desire when they first came on the market I live in Spain so I sent it to a Spanish service centre they returned it saying there was nothing wrong with it but there was...... so my friend who speaks fluent Spanish was able to return it that is when they changed the mobo this time I do like the Desire but not sure whether I would purchase another HTC phone
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