hm i was just wondering, theres a lot of people who sell unlock codes for htc. but they must get them from somewhere, somehow. were livin in 21st century and everything can be hacked / cracked, so is there a tool similiar to a KeyGen which can generate unlock codes for htc? i think there must be one somewhere...
I don't know if it's possible, but if it is it's illegal and has no place on these forums. Which makes this thread redundant either way.
I just wonder what the basis for this is?
I don't claim to be a legal expert, but just because group A charge for a service doesn't mean it is illegal for that service to be provided for free. If you pay £15 for a taxi ride and I give my mate a ride down the street for free is that illegal?
Unlocking has been discussed loads on these forums, so that in itself cannot be against the rules. I cannot see how the price of a service has any affect on its legality (or lack thereof).
Again I'm not expert, and I would welcome some evidence to prove me wrong. Does charging for something make it legal?
You're missing the point. Doing things the legitimate way, it costs the companies to get the codes off the network providers. They aren't going to give them away free or they'd make a loss. Therefore any free codes available would have to be acquired illegally, or given away by someone with more pennies than brain cells.
But as far as I know the point is moot, because you can't generate the code using an algorithm. I believe the codes are randomly applied, and therefore the only way to obtain them is by buying access to the network providers database.
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so by this logic the unlock code could be obtained straight from the carrier?
Yes they usually charge you £15 to £20 (in the UK) I think with most you need to be in your 2nd or 3rd month of your contract before they will supply you with the code.
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The codes do NOT come from the carrier. They come from the manufacturer. My code was £8.99 (not what Orange charge, £30) and came straight from HTC.
A couple of years ago carriers tried to get the practice of selling unlock codes banned because it robbed them of revenue. However, UK courts agreed that seeing as Orange, O2, etc etc were sticking around 200% on top of the actual price, that it wasn't unreasonable for other people to enter the market and offer lower prices.
And yes it is possible to get an algorithm that processes HTC unlock codes. The codes are not random and are generated based on your IMEI number. So one IMEI number could generate a number of codes, but they'd all be correct. IF you have ever seen someone unlocking iPhones for anything less than, I think, £20, then they're using an algorithm (or a particuarly good root and unlock)
The only other illegal part of unlocking a mobile phone is unlocking a phone that has been IMEI blocked by a carrier.
For the good place to get a unlock code for HTC mobile,
Just visit this site here it gives the code along with easy instructions and methods for your mobile......
As you clearly missed the post above you, here it is again:
Having extensive experience in the field of HTC unlocking, I can clear up some confusion. Firstly, it should be known that these codes are in fact random, and are not calculated in any hack-able way (unless their randomisation algorithm somehow gets cracked).*
HTC unlock codes come from the manufacturer, as opposed to some service provider-based unlocking services. That means that the only way to have access to them is by direct access to HTC's database, or through someone who, hopefully legally, is able to resell you unlock codes, which they retrieve from HTC's database.
In most countries worldwide, being able to purchase and unlock your device is a legal right. This is the case in at least USA, UK, Canada, and Australia (and many more). More info can be found here: SIM lock - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Another point raised is if selling them vs. providing codes for free is different. The answer is, as the OP hinted at, is that it is no different to any other product, and does not change legalities based on price, unless some sort of SLA is made between the code supplier and a reseller regarding the minimum/suggested resale price.
These codes *do* cost everyone along the line money. This is not avoidable.
The closest you can come to a free remote HTC unlock code (there are some free software solutions, which may work, but they will void your warranty), is through our site, which I will describe in a minute.
In summary, remote phone unlocking is legal, safe, permanent, and does not void any warranty. It consists of simply typing in a code into the phone, and does not involve any software. I highly recommend going through an online seller instead of your provider, as they often charge excessive fees and take a limitless amount of time, as providers do not want their customers unlocking their phones... That's not to say it's not legal (it is), they will just make it as hard as possible to unlock their phones. So do yourselves a favour, and unless the provider offers a good unlocking deal, don't give in, as you will receive much better service elsewhere.
Now, not to put in a shameless plug, but I wanted to explain the only way that an HTC unlock code can be free. Our site, which has been running for 2 years now and has unlocked almost 4,000 phones to date (now doing 1,000 a month, and clearly growing in popularity), FreeUnlocks.com works through a sponsored solution. That is, customers have the option of completing a free advertising offer (such as a Netflix free 14 day trial, which can be cancelled at any time, with no charge, for example) in exchange for their code. In this way, the customer gets their code for free (guaranteed to work, with awesome support which service providers may/may not provide), the sponsor (Netflix in our example) gets the temporary, if not permanent lead, and our site is paid a small sum to cover costs and make a slight profit, by the Sponsor. We believe this options helps a lot of customers, who should not have to pay for a code again, if they are willing to utilize their resources. Obviously, this is not for everyone, so our site still has a safe payment option for a low price, but I definitely recommend that you look around for price comparisons as there are many sites online (most of which will provide you an accurate code, and some level of support) that are worth looking at, should you be willing to pay. In the end, most unlock code services are the same, with the exception of our site which has the added "Get it free" layer.
Moderators, definitely feel free to remove this post. I did read the rules of your forum in full, and only provided our link as I think we have something completely different to offer forum members than other sites that choose to spam the forum with no other reason for posting. I have made sure to be transparent with my affiliation with the site above, so my post may be somewhat biased, by nature, however I feel that I have explained the facts to the best of my ability.
Happy unlocking, and hope I could answer the OP's question. Please "Thanks" my post if I helped
Moderators, definitely feel free to remove this post.
That won't be necessary. The information you provided was on-topic and useful to the community, you were up-front about your interest in the topic, so I think we can let this one slide.
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point is though the desire doesnt need any unlock codes and doesnt need you to submit your email address to a company that can then pass on your information to advertisors and spam campaigns.
the above is very nice and im sure for other devices it is a very good alternative however using the simunlock util for the desire is free, needs little knowledge on how to use it.
as for warranties, HTC's warranty for desire is a hardware one as well as software. in the case of software you can RUU it, if its a hardware fault it is still covered so using a tool to unlock the phone would not void this
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point is though the desire doesnt need any unlock codes and doesnt need you to submit your email address to a company that can then pass on your information to advertisors and spam campaigns.
Hi, I made it clear that I was referring to remote unlock codes, not software solutions (which may be free to download). Most unlocking companies would not share customer information, and do have privacy policies in place. Of course, I can only speak for our site; we do not participate in the distribution of private information.
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as for warranties, HTC's warranty for desire is a hardware one as well as software. in the case of software you can RUU it, if its a hardware fault it is still covered so using a tool to unlock the phone would not void this
I assume than the RUU would undo the unlock? Remote unlock codes are permanent.
All I am saying is that remote unlock codes are the official/supported way of doing things, and there is zero risk in using them. Of course, it is each user's choice -- I'm just sharing my expertise and making a recommendation.
That won't be necessary. The information you provided was on-topic and useful to the community, you were up-front about your interest in the topic, so I think we can let this one slide.
Thanks Mate. Wasn't entirely sure, but I did make sure to read the rules. I will continue to provide my expertise to the AF community, sharing behind the scenes information that other sites may hide. Just to be clear, anyone, including mods, can feel free to PM me for additional info.
No. RUU is replacing Rom, radio, hboot, recovery. The sim lock is not touched by flashing any of these. The sim unlock tool is free, easy to use and permanent
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Hi, I made it clear that I was referring to remote unlock codes, not software solutions (which may be free to download). Most unlocking companies would not share customer information, and do have privacy policies in place. Of course, I can only speak for our site; we do not participate in the distribution of private information.
I assume than the RUU would undo the unlock? Remote unlock codes are permanent.
All I am saying is that remote unlock codes are the official/supported way of doing things, and there is zero risk in using them. Of course, it is each user's choice -- I'm just sharing my expertise and making a recommendation.
Hope that clears things up!
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im not sure you are fully aware.
you may not share the information, but the surveys that get submitted have a user email address submission. this gets put in a marketing database thus the user has exposed his email to a system that can pass his data on to other businesses who will want to send him information regarding their product.
im not knocking your site, im just saying its not needed at all for the desire
No. RUU is replacing Rom, radio, hboot, recovery. The sim lock is not touched by flashing any of these. The sim unlock tool is free, easy to use and permanent
No problem. Thanks for the correction. I only have experience with remote codes.
Either way, the OP clearly titled his thread "free unlock codes".
Again, it's obviously your choice what method to use. I'm just answering the OP's question.
As for Rastaman's point, the offers are done through the TrialPay network, and trusted companies all the way through, with opt out policies for each. None of my customers have complained about future spam.
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each to his own, if im getting something from your site for free and im aware of what im signing up for im not going to complain about it.
the thread maybe entitled free unlock codes, i see you are offering them. thats fine
what im saying is that there is no need for it for the desire alone.
This program does not work on any other htc so your site has a good purpose. this is a desire area
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