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Old September 15th, 2010, 07:12 AM   #1 (permalink)
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does anyone know if this will work with the desire?

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Old September 15th, 2010, 07:13 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Well, it's software running on Android 2.2 so it should do, let's just hope HTC decide to share the love and not keep it on the Desire HD & Z
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Well, it's software running on Android 2.2 so it should do, let's just hope HTC decide to share the love and not keep it on the Desire HD & Z
They may not offer it because of screen size differences making the text smaller on Desires, but since the resolution is the same and it's not a huge difference in size, I don't see why not. Perhaps in the next HTC update.
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Yeah, I imagine it would have to come through an OTA update since it seems to incorporated into HTC Sense / the firmware.
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But the Z's screen is the same size as the Desire's so if it will run on that screen, there's no reason it won't run on the Desire.

I just hope that the new Sense features won't slow the Desire down like iOS4 did to my iPod Touch.
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Desire Z = QVGA screen, 800MHz Qualcomm chip

Isn't that slightly lower spec than the Desire?

Desire = WVGA, 1Ghz snapdragon (is the qualcomm the make or the processor name?)
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But the Z's screen is the same size as the Desire's so if it will run on that screen, there's no reason it won't run on the Desire.
Oh I missed the Z in the above, so yes it should work.
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It would add a little overhead, but I can't see it slowing it down much and certainly not enough to worry about, especially with the 2x faster speed thanks to Froyo.
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Desire Z = QVGA screen, 800MHz Qualcomm chip
Isn't that slightly lower spec than the Desire?
Yes, the Desire has a faster chip running at 1000MHz (1GHz), yet both are Snapdragon chipsets.
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Qualcomm is the designer and manufacturer of the chipset. Snapdragon is the name of the chipset used in the Qualcomm configuration, and Scorpion is the name of the processor.
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Desire Z is only 800 Mgz but dont forget it is the newer gen more optimized Snapdragon. It would probably perform the same as current snapdragons and run more power efficient thanks to it being 45nm. In my mind this is an improvement over current snapdragons.
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Old September 15th, 2010, 08:59 AM   #10 (permalink)
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but what about the new snapdragon shipping in the Desire HD? how does that one fare against the snapdragon in the Desire Z?

as great as the Z looks, the HD still nips it for me with the bigger screen and higher resolution camera.. i like to take pictures with my phone.. the slide out keyboard looks brilliant though... i want the new desire's lol..

who wants to buy my desire?



on a serious note, how long until we get htcsense.com incorporated into rooted phones if at all?
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well about the Desire HD's processor. It is pretty much the same generation as the Desire Z, but clocked at 1 Ghz rather than 800 mgz. So it has the new Adreno 205 gpu. Expect this to be a beast

Check this out

Qualcomm Products and Services - The Snapdragon? Platform

Under Product Details and Second Generation there's the 7x30 chipset (Desire Z) and the better 8x55 chipset (Desire HD). You can compare the stats.
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Just read some more about the new Sense; it includes upgraded camera software to enable editing and fun effects

I'll be surprised (and disappointed) if the new Sense doesn't arrive on the Desire
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I would dearly love to have the fast boot, cached maps, and landscape home screen that this new Sense provides. Please HTC, pretty please...
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No mention of the Wavesecure style features?

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At the heart is HTCSense.com, a series of dashboard-connected services for backup, security, and control of your HTC handset. A new locate feature triggers the handset to ring loudly (even when set to silent) while flagging its location on an online map. If the phone was lost or stolen, owners can remote lock and/or wipe the phone. Backups will automatically archive your contacts, text messages, call history, customizations and data.
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lets play a fun game and see how expensive the Desire HD and Z will retail for sim free.

i'm gonna say £420 for the Z and £499 for the HD
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lets play a fun game and see how expensive the Desire HD and Z will retail for sim free.

i'm gonna say £420 for the Z and £499 for the HD
you're close with the Desire HD

Desire HD MoDaCo package now available to pre-order from superetrader - Android @ MoDaCo
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Expansys UK have them both listed already...

HTC_DESIRE_FAMILY - Products Tagged - eXpansys UK

£449 - Desire Z (Sim-free)
£499 - Desire HD (Sim-free)

EDIT: FOUND CHEAPER @ Play.com

£429 - Desire Z (Sim-free) - HTC Desire Z Andoid Sim Free / Unlocked / 5 Megpaixel / Touch Screen Mobile Phone - Mobiles at Play.com (UK)

£459 - Desire HD (Sim-free) - HTC Desire HD Andoid / Sim Free / Unlocked / 8 Megapixel / Touch Screen Mobile Phone - Mobiles at Play.com (UK)
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Exclamation the new sense for Desire hd Desire z

Found this video of the Desire hd and Desire z

YouTube - Introduction to HTC Desire HD, Desire Z and new Sense Experience

I am wanting to know whether we will be getting any of these updates.
Like the car panel and the different camera

HTC locations sounds good
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Some lovely new touches there. Here's hoping we get them too!!

Also is it just me who's ocd starts flaring up, cause the clocks on the two phones are not at the same time, not even the same hour. Grrr
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do you guys think the reason they removed backup feature in the latest update is because of the upcoming htcsense.com back up service?
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Old September 15th, 2010, 01:48 PM   #21 (permalink)
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some nice additions, if you want something similar to the car panel - the leedroid ROM has a version of it already
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That is one BEAUTY of a phone.

Now I'm torn as to what to upgrade to when my contract is up in 2012. The hinted at HTC Olympian, or the Desire HD.

And the girl doing the demo sounds HOT LOL
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Some lovely new touches there. Here's hoping we get them too!!

Also is it just me who's ocd starts flaring up, cause the clocks on the two phones are not at the same time, not even the same hour. Grrr
Please.. its CDO. Alphabetical, like it should be!
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That is one BEAUTY of a phone.

Now I'm torn as to what to upgrade to when my contract is up in 2012. The hinted at HTC Olympian, or the Desire HD.

And the girl doing the demo sounds HOT LOL

Lol how does someone sound hot??? She could be an ogre for all you know!
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Who thinks this will run on a rooted Desire running a 2.2 official rom???????
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Oh my goodness, if only I had just waited another 2 months, I coulda gotten the HTC desire HD!!!
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LOL an ogre with an accent.
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Now I'm really torn, I like the Desire HD and the Z, but I was looking at moving to the Motorola Defy as I wanted something a little more robust. Choices choices.
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£459 for the desire HD?

how much will a used desire shift for? im tempted to put in £150 for the HD...
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HTCSense.com sounds good....
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Wow those are some very nice updates.

And I still don't trust that Z-hinge :P
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i think one of the best feature from here is the ability to store maps on SD card so if anyone travels abroad could use it without any roaming data charges. just really wonder how it would be implemented and who would supply maps or just would store it as a region or country? hmm.. sounds really interesting
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The only thing I miss from my current Desire is Quad Band 3G. I don't understand why HTC don't make a version that supports all frequencies for worldwide use.
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New sense will come in a near future upgrade to complete the full Desire range placement
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Now I'm really torn, I like the Desire HD and the Z, but I was looking at moving to the Motorola Defy as I wanted something a little more robust. Choices choices.
Wow, I don't suggest the Defy or any other Motoblur devices.
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does anyone know if this will work with the desire?
I think the question wasn't about the new sense overlay to come to Desire (though I certainly hope it will), but would Desire users be able to use HTCSense.com cloud service?

Anyone in the know, plz... (I'm considering dearly to get Desire instead of these new products)
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i heard that there might be a fee to pay to use the service though
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i heard that there might be a fee to pay to use the service though

Hmm... guess not from what I've heard...
HTC Sense.com: remote services for HTC Desire HD and HTC Desire Z | Electricpig

read the last line...

Anyway, this is perfectly makes sense of what HTC would do, how else would they fight the Apple giant AND gain tremendeous fanboy-ism loyalty?

By making their cloud service to be free would ensure most of their current users to loyally join in their next product line whenever it arrives.
With the ease of use to sync contacts from this phone to the next one, that alone would have convinced most to stay with the brand.

I'd imagined Steve Jobs would be pissed and add another clause to their patent breach law process. (their same service -MobileMe- is a paid service)
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IMO htcsense.com just highlights what Google should be doing with stock Android but isn't. It would be so much more streamlined and convenient if these extra cloud services were simply a part of the existing Google cloud service we already enjoy, and would also ensure older devices get the same treatment. Something for Gingerbread perhaps?
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New sense will come in a near future upgrade to complete the full Desire range placement
Thanks for this...but...

I'm sorry to ask this, but I'd like to understand and be certain - are you saying that the upgrades to HTC Sense will be become available in the near future to standard HTC Desire owners (not Z, not HD - just a plain 'old' Desire!!)?

Do you know when, and do you know for sure?

These updates - FroYo, new HTC Sense, etc - it feels like an upgrade every time it happens - I love it! And I love my Desire..!!! (a bit sad I know...)
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dang then that's pretty good then. just hope that it's compatible with the regular desire (i'd be surprise if it's not)
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All I know is new sense is designed for the ENTIRE Desire range. As to when, is up to HTC, and then your sp to provide it in a update.
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Doubt we'll get it officially, why would HTC release 2 new phones and then just upgrade the old ones?

Not good business sense if you ask me...
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well it is when the Desire is a third option; if you don't want a keyboard or a large screen then the existing Desire is the one for you.

If htc opt NOT to update our version of Sense then they've effectively written it off. It makes much more sense to have all three Desire phones running 2.2 and the new version of Sense UI

The ONLY issue I see is that in order to store maps you'll need an SD card, whereas the two new Desire variants have on board memory.
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You have to log on to the website, I guess that getting a log on is part of the set up process on the new phones? We won't get access until HTC update our version of Sense (and we don't know for sure that's happening)
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Doubt we'll get it officially, why would HTC release 2 new phones and then just upgrade the old ones?

Not good business sense if you ask me...
of course HTC won't release this for the Desire just yet. if they did, they'd never sell any HD or Z models.

it might come but it could take time...
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Default Are we getting the new HTC Sense?

I saw some speculation as to whether the HTC Desire would be getting the new Sense found on the new HTC phones. Was any information found?

Also, will we be able to use HTCSense.com?
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is this service up and running yet for the desire ?
when i go to the page it asks for password , but seems no way to create an account
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Old September 18th, 2010, 11:24 AM   #50 (permalink)
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