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Old February 13th, 2012, 05:08 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi all,

I have had my Desire a couple of years, or almost at least and I really fancy a change. The Desire has been a great phone but times do change and I think the time is near.

I'm not really up to speed on phones just around the corner so wouldn't know when the best time would be. I fancy the Sensation but wonder if it's likely to be superseded any time soon.

Can anyone make any suggestions? I love HTC phones but as long as it's Android I'll consider others

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Old February 13th, 2012, 05:12 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Im waiting for more info on:

HTC to announce the quad-core Endeavour at MWC? - GSMArena.com news

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Hey, thanks for the info.

Now that looks one mighty nice phone. I think I'll wait a few weeks to check it out before I jump in.

My wife just got the Xperia Arc S. Nice phone but a bit plasticy and surprisingly no front camera. Wonder if the Xperia S is a little more robust.

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Xperia s..
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I'm liking the look of the Xperia S as well. I want my next phone to have ANT+ connectivity, and the Xperia line is the only brand that seems to feature this at present (apart from one left-field HTC model that I'm not interested in). So I'll take a look at what deals are around for the Xperia S when it comes out, or maybe snap up an Xperia Arc S if some discounted prices come along. My Desire is out of contract in early April.
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I bet the Xperia S is plasticy. It looks it if you look at the rocker button on the side in that picture.

I just cant help thinking "Why buy 1.5Ghz Dual core when I can have Quad?"
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I'm glad you said that about the plastic, I thought I was the only one that thought that.
I want to like that phone so bad, will see what I think when I actually hold one.
I'll have to take a look at the other link you posted.
A quad core phone... Man that sounds immense..
A tad stupid for a phone, but so immense.
Worries me a little bit though even considering a quad core phone, unless the battery has been optimized an awful lot, or just the general system usage.
Knowing how fast my Desire sucked at my battery, from full to flat in 8-9 hours was just silly, hoping a quad core won't be the same. Saying that though, the dual cores (that I'm aware of) last longer than that.

Am I worrying about nothing? Maybe, but I do what I do!
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I just don't know...

I want to be able to run ubuntu nicely on my phone. It runs OK on my desire but requires a monster.
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Just decided I don't like the Xperia S. It's seems to have a band of transparent plexiglass near the bottom.



Maybe it's appearance in the flesh may be OK but from the image.... Yuk!
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I'm not decided on what I think of the see through part, it's not ugly in my eyes, it's just there.

SUroot, why do you run Ubuntu? Is it just because you can or is there a certain reason?
It does sound interesting to me, I'd try it but I know nothing of that os.
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I like that about it.
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Because I can. If it ran better, I would be able to do more with it though.
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My contract will be up in May, so there's no rush. Don't think I'll be running to the store, when that day comes. I still love the Desire, in most part thanks to dGB, but an upgrade will happen eventually, probably sometime next autumn... Barring the unforseen disaster!

My main worry in this upgrade, is that I want to choose a phone with as positive and flourishing a user community around it as the Desire has. Maybe I have been spoiled rotten by you guys, but it is a real concern for me!
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I want to be able to run ubuntu nicely on my phone. It runs OK on my desire but requires a monster.
Quad core & 4.7" screen is certainly that

Actually I suspect I'll be skipping this generation (but want to take a good look at that Xperia S anyway).
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I still dont know what I am doing, it depends on contracts and prices and availability and timing.
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I'm waiting for the Xperia S (as far as I understand the clear bit is where the buttons for menu, home etc. appear - I think it looks quite good), the Galaxy S3, or the Endeavour.

Not too fussed about quad core as I use my phone as, well, a phone really, not for playing games, music or videos, so all that power seems a bit pointless to me. The best phone I've ever had was a Sony (yes, even preferred it to my Desire) so I am leaning towards the Xperia, but I'm interested in the others depending on costs. I'm due for an upgrade in April, so we'll see what's around.
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I have been looking at that quad core phone too, got a bit of time to study it a bit more as my earliest upgrade date is June.
Just hoping to make as good a choice as i did with the desire.
The wife is due her phone upgrade first in march, as she only wants a blackberry i prof as there's a free arnova g2 tablet as a free gift (something else for me to experiment with)
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I've got May to go. Not sure when it will release though. I need to know how it is before doing it as the Desire was indeed, a great choice of device.
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Just hope the onboard storage is decent like the 32gb they are talking about
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HTC have come a long way. Even a couple of GB with mmc would be pretty sufficient... but yeah, the more the merrier
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I'm looking too.

Problem is that I don't want a phone that's too large, the Desire is just about the right size for me.

I've been looking at Sensation XS but with the all reports of daily crashing and poor battery life I still have not found a worthy replacement. I also happen to like Sense so I'm kinda locked in to HTC.
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Ideal choice would be a Samsung galaxy s2 internals with the htc sensation casing also the sensation audio recording to go with the video camera. Personally i think that would make a near as perfect phone as is possible.
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I guess whatever comes out, within 6-months there's always something better faster, more.....
It would be nice if the manufacturers could work on ways to reduce the price of these smart phones though. Back to a 12-month contract being the norm I'm sure we'd all be changing or upgrading more often.
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The good thing about me liking android is all my market app purchases (or most) will transfer, unlike when I went from Blackberry to android.

24 months seemed long to me, but truthfully, I loved my desire so much that it didn't really matter. I would still be happy using it, but if I dont upgrade, I lose out so come May, I need to have a clear idea of the direction I need to go.

But these long contracts do mean I must get as new a release as possible to keep it currentl for longer. However, I need to know its rootable and has a good development communicty behind it.

I would not be able to take a device with no Custom ROM and give it the first custom ROM. Thats a step up from my skill set right now.
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Agreed, the 24 month contract I had on my Desire never seemed to long (I did get out 3 months early though). It was just the draw of the new toy syndrome.

I have though gone for an 18 month on my Nexus as I think things are changing faster than they once were as manufacturers and developers realise Android is THE platform to be behind.
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The good thing about me liking android is all my market app purchases (or most) will transfer,

24 months seemed long to me, but truthfully, I loved my desire so much that it didn't really matter. I would still be happy using it

But these long contracts do mean I must get as new a release as possible to keep it currentl for longer. However, I need to know its rootable and has a good development communicty behind it.
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Well I'm pretty much in the same boat as most of you guys. Contract runs out in May so I can upgrade but to be honest, I think I'm going to keep my desire until it breaks! Or at least another year after May.

Running Oxygen ROM with a few mods and it's perfect I don't have any issues and don't use my phone for that much really. I like the smaller screen as I don't watch videos etc and I think the newer phones are becoming more PDA like than mobile phone!

Plus if you go to Three (in the UK) it's 10 a month (12 month contract) for 300 mins 3000 text and 1GB of data! (Assuming this offer lasts till May I'll be taking it) although I don't know what coverage is like for Three so will have to investigate! Throw in 54 cachback via topcashback and that's 66 for the whole year! Absolute bargain if it all works out and I get to keep my Desire too!
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Plus if you go to Three (in the UK) it's 10 a month (12 month contract) for 300 mins 3000 text and 1GB of data! (Assuming this offer lasts till May I'll be taking it) although I don't know what coverage is like for Three so will have to investigate! Throw in 54 cachback via topcashback and that's 66 for the whole year! Absolute bargain if it all works out and I get to keep my Desire too!
Just to say I purchased my phone new (never, ever had a contract) and I am on 3UK. With the 10 sim (which I have) they block you from accessing 18 rated sites, such as sickipedia. I got in touch with them and they said the only way to get this restriction lifted was to have a 5 a month bolt on, which also gave another 2GB. I said I wasn't after more data just the 18 restriction lifting so they recredit the 5 back each month. Result - I get 3GB a month data for 10.

Giffgaff offer unlimited texts and data for 10 a month. They use the O2 network. My wife and kids use this. As for coverage (my experience) - O2 were one of the first mobile phone companies and their original masts were 2G. They then have to upgrade their masts for 3G. 3UK are one of the newest and as a result theirs all offer HSDPA. So basically you stand more of a chance of getting a signal on O2, but it may not have 3G coverage, where by on 3uk, if you get a signal you will have high speed internet access. I know at our house in Birmingham on O2 there is no 3G, but I've never had an issue on 3Uk wherever I've been, including holiday in Devon last year.
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One final thing - I too thought about what phone I would get next, but for me a lot of the new phones are evolutionary, not revolutionary (nicked that saying ) A bigger issue for me was that with some of the games they can be a bit fiddly on a small screen. So I got myself an android tablet with a dual core processor for games. I have the Desire as my phone and use the tablet for the internet and gaming. The battery life on the tablet is great too.

Don't rule a tablet out.
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.. Just another 7 months for me before I can even consider upgrading. Pff.

From my understanding T-Mobile are being rather uninspiring with the choices they are offering at the minute. Hopefully it will pick up by he time I come round to upgrade. I'll just hang fire for the MWC before I start doing my usual research.
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.. Just another 7 months for me before I can even consider upgrading. Pff.

From my understanding T-Mobile are being rather uninspiring with the choices they are offering at the minute. Hopefully it will pick up by he time I come round to upgrade. I'll just hang fire for the MWC before I start doing my usual research.
Don't forget they carphone warehouse can upgrade your existing t mob contract... you still pay t mob but cpw supply a handset. More choice
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And the handset from CPW won't be network locked.
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That's where i am doing both my contract upgrades, for the very reason that CPW phones are unlocked from scratch. Pity that phones weren't rooted from scratch.
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2 things I have heard neither good... NO SD slot and Micro Sim's....
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2 things I have heard neither good... NO SD slot and Micro Sim's....
Some reports say it hasnt, some say it has. We wont know for sure until HTC make an official announcement, but if it has no SD slot, that would really discourage me.

Micro sim, I couldnt care less. I only use it for connectivity.
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Any advantages using a Micro Sim?
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You can fit a microsim in a phone that uses the normal mini-sim using an adapter. It doesn't work the other way round
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Sounds revolutionary! /sarcasm.
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My contract is up in April. I love my Desire but my wife has the Galaxy S2 which I do like but it is now 1 year since release so I will probably wait to see what the S3 looks like. I went to CPW for a look and a play yesterday, blimey some of these new phones are huge . The Desire fits nicely in my pocket, not sure about these 4.65in monsters, will need to wear cargo pants just to carry my phone around
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Don't forget they carphone warehouse can upgrade your existing t mob contract... you still pay t mob but cpw supply a handset. More choice
Yeah - I will most likely buy from CPW as I learnt the hard wayabout the crippling Bloatware on these devices. I know it wont be an issue with the memory - but I really irks me that I pay a lot of money for a phone which becomes pre-loaded with utter tripe which I shall never use. It's pure cheeky.
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2 things I have heard neither good... NO SD slot and Micro Sim's....
If there is no MicroSD slot, I will be disappointed. Even though there is a lot of conjecture in regards to this phone, it sounds like it could be a bad boy!
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The most recent reports are all saying no Micro SD, though that's probably not many actual independent sources. On the plus side this one is reported to have 32GB, unlike the Nexus.
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The most recent reports are all saying no Micro SD, though that's probably not many actual independent sources. On the plus side this one is reported to have 32GB, unlike the Nexus.

Yeah but ill believe it when I see it. Without raking up the past too much, remember the dual core desire s?
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Agreed. But microSD option is far preferable.
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Well 2 more Xperia's are now official. Unfortunately the 4" unibody Xperia P looks like it has non-expandable 16GB storage
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Well 2 more Xperia's are now official. Unfortunately the 4" unibody Xperia P looks like it has non-expandable 16GB storage
What is with this horrendous idea? Expandable memory is a plus!
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I don't know whether it's Google's fault (the last 2 Nexi have had fixed storage), a design thing (saves space if you don't have to include a slot) or some lunacy from marketing (people might buy the more expensive phone to get more storage, but they might also buy someone else's phone, so I hope it isn't supposed to be some clever plan).

Not seen hard specs from MWC yet, but all reports seem to be saying that the One X (formerly Endeavour) has 32 GB non-expandable and the One S (formerly Ville) is being reported by some as 16 GB non-expandable. That latter would be a bit gutting, as the S otherwise looks very nice indeed - admittedly if there is any phone in the range that wouldn't have room for a slot it would be that one, but giving it too little storage and thereby ruling it out for many people seems really dumb (the origin of my little speculation about marketing messing up specs above).
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Maybe there trying to stray away from SD cards because there slightly slower than the inbuilt memory? Would still be nice to be able to expand though and perhaps add video or music
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If you want a real joke, apparently the One V will come with 4GB fixed storage and no card slot! HTC seem to think that a deal with Dropbox solves their lack of storage - sorry, but for several reasons, no.
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