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Old May 22nd, 2010, 02:09 PM   #51 (permalink)
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I've made a point of letting it discharge pretty fully before overnight-charging it and I have no issue with the battery life at all. With heavy use it'll easily last a day and, with light use, I've had it last three.

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How hot do people's batteries run? Mine will idle at around 28c-ish, but when i'm browsing it can go up to 38-39ish, which is bound to be reducing the effectiveness of the battery.

I'm still inside a time period where Vodafone have to supply me with a whole new handset, and i'm kinda toying with the idea, as the only downside is gonna be setting it all up again.

My big thing is the when browsing on 3G my battery can go down pretty quickly, like 10% in 15 mins as I load up different pages (email site, forums etc.)
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3G is very battery hungry. H or Wifi are both lower, and both use similar amounts of power for me.
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Just wanted to mention that some of you that have the battery drain very fast might have hit a bug. I had the problem that the phone never went to sleep, even with the screen off. Quite a few others were hit by this issue as well.

You can dial *#*#4636#*#* to get the battery information and check the history. The percentage at the top should NOT equal 100% if you had the screen off for quite a while. In my case it was at 100% so the phone never went to sleep. So even when charged all night the battery was down to 70% in the afternoon with hardly any usage at all.

There seem to be 2 workarounds for this problem. Some found out that killing the Calendar with a taskkiller solved the issue (doesn't come back when restarting the Calendar). In my case it was solved by removing my Flickr account from the synchronization options.

After that I got MUCH better batterylife. Sent some texts, bit of internet, hardly any other usage but the battery only went from 100% to 88% in 24 hours.

My father has the same phone and didn't have the problem. The cause is still a mystery, just glad I have a workaround.
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My father has the same phone and didn't have the problem. The cause is still a mystery, just glad I have a workaround.
That's quite interesting and if it turns out to be validated, also wierd. Are you and your dad on different mobile carriers? Maybe something aet up differently.
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You're right, it's weird. We do have different carriers but the problem isn't carrier related. The other people having the problem had different carriers as well. I had a Flickr account setup, my father didn't. But others mentioned they didn't even have a flickr account. If you check the Wake-Up section of the battery history information it always shows the Calendar as the software that keeps the phone awake if you have the problem. Yet I never use synchronization and I don't use the Calendar. And even though the Calendar is on top, removing the Flickr account solved it while it has nothing to do with the Calendar.

The problem seems to start when booting the device and probably has to do with backgroundservices getting 'stuck' so the phone doesn't go to sleep. After restarting the Calendar services the problem disappears for some as well. Until the next reboot that is.

I know several people have sent the information to HTC and they said they will look into it. In the meantime I just wanted to get the word out that it might not be the battery that's the problem. I almost bought a new battery to check if it would help. Glad I read about this problem first somewhere else.
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Have to agree, it's a poor show. I've had to turn off all my syncs to get close to a full days use but the idea of having the phone is that it can do so much but the battery just can't handle it!!!
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I don't think that Android is as intelligent as they say about stopping programs automatically. I wasn't concerned with battery life after the first week, it seemed ok and I always switch off all auto updates, mobile internet, wifi, bluetooth, gps etc overnight. I also have it on 2G only as the 3G reception here is patchy. I charged it yesterday evening and now, just over 12 hours later I only have a 3rd of the battery left. I've not used it at all, only turned the screen on a couple of times to check the battery and have everything turned off. How could I have lost 2 thirds battery in that amount of time with just GSM on and everything else turned off, it's ridiculous.
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Just checked my battery history using the keycode above and selecting Other usage and since last unplugged it says Running 99.2%, Screen on 33.4%. My battery drained half overnight with everything turned off and on GSM only. Do though percentages indicate a problem?
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Think that you have a problem indeed. Your battery drain is way higher than it should be. Try going to the battery history, click on 'Other usage' and then 'Partial wake usage'. It will show you what programs have caused android to stop going to sleep. The top one is probably the problem.

In the last 22 hours I've been playing with a new home replacement (quite a while), listened to some music, tried a navigation app for 5-10min while on the way to a party and checked with SoundHound to see what kind of music was playing. During those 22 hours the battery went from 100 to 79. Not bad at all I'd say.

I have the feeling that most reports concerning battery usage aren't related to the battery but to software issues. Android is an OS running on all types of hardware with all kinds of software running on it. An OS is going to have bugs, so is the software on the market. It's annoying but that's not going to change.

With reasonably heavy usage you should probably get through a working day (google 'HTC desire - a day without a charge'). Some friends have iphones and they don't even dare to leave the house without a charger. Now that my phone is going to sleep again like it should I have no problem with the battery at all anymore.
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While not using the phone I get about 2% loss in 8 hours which is perfectly acceptable. With average use per day for me. i.e. 8 5min calls. 20 emails and maybe 30 mins on internet my battery is still more than 50% at end of day. I charge every night but could get 2 days use easy.

I use "Juice Plotter" to see where the high drain occurs. It's internet use in my case.
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I don't think that Android is as intelligent as they say about stopping programs automatically. I wasn't concerned with battery life after the first week, it seemed ok and I always switch off all auto updates, mobile internet, wifi, bluetooth, gps etc overnight. I also have it on 2G only as the 3G reception here is patchy. I charged it yesterday evening and now, just over 12 hours later I only have a 3rd of the battery left. I've not used it at all, only turned the screen on a couple of times to check the battery and have everything turned off. How could I have lost 2 thirds battery in that amount of time with just GSM on and everything else turned off, it's ridiculous.
If on Tmobile turning on and off data uses more power than leaving on 24/7 in my experience. I tried it for a few days, and it zapped battery.
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Used a task killer and then recharged the battery, it's been off charge for 20 hours now and has only just dropped from displaying the full battery symbol to the one with just a bit missing. So it seems to be behaving itself again and something must have been running all night last time to run the battery down.

It's annoying that that kind of thing can accidentally happen though. Especially when we're told we don't need to worry about shutting apps down. It's my understanding that an app has it's state saved when you go back to the home screen so it's not actually running in the background which is reasoning not to use a task killer. Clearly a task killer actually is needed though.
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Am currently going with the android gurus and have uninstalled Advanced Task Killer.
Had mobile network switched off yesterday and the battery life *seemed* to hold up better than when it was *ON*.
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I've heard a few differing pieces of advice about task killers: one of which is that it's best to let Android control the tasks.
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If an application loses focus it gets a chance to save state. That means the visible part of the application stops/pauses but it can still have services running. This happens for instance while playing music.

So basically android is only able to do the right thing when the programs running on it behave well. If the program keeps doing stuff even when not needed or it doesn't allow the phone to go to sleep android can't determine if it's intentional or not. You wouldn't want the music to suddenly stop when you switch to another app or go to the home screen. You'd still want the services to keep running in the background.

If an application is developed correctly then a task killer shouldn't be needed at all (the task killer itself would only drain extra battery in that case). Unfortunately this isn't always the case.
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If an application is developed correctly then a task killer shouldn't be needed at all (the task killer itself would only drain extra battery in that case). Unfortunately this isn't always the case.
This is my thinking too. How can the OS tell if something is running but shouldn't be? I'm currently using Task Panel, which seems like it doesn't run in the background killing stuff all the time but has a button to kill all running tasks. I've added all the essential stuff to the ignore list but first killing everything and then looking to see what started up again straight away. That way I think i've got everything essential on the ignore list and after I finish with a session on the phone I just go back to the home screen and kill everything that's running, which doesn't kill anything on the ignore list.
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I find that unplugging it at around 7am lasts me until about midnight on medium usage - 20% or so remaining. If it has had heavy usage during the day then a quick top-up either at work on a USB plugged into the computer, or in the car on the way home, or even just plug it in for half an hour when I walk through the door while I put the dinner on keeps it going all evening. For the masses of power-hungry applications and functions this is hardly worth complaining about!


I have to say though, than an ENORMOUS drain on battery life occurs when you are in an area of particularly low signal. The phone spends a lot of time trying to pick up a signal. This is made worse when the phone is constantly switching between 2G and 3G signal (again, where signal is weak). If you have poor signal, consider switching off mobile internet or activating Airplane mode until you get back to a decent signal area. On one occasion I was in a meeting deep inside a building, and I found that the battery ran down completely after about 7 hours in a low-signal area, and the battery use meters said that 'Cell standby' had used 98% of available power. On a normal day, it's about 20%.


Having said all this, I really don't see why people have a problem with plugging it in overnight - I do this as a matter of course. It's not like it's a problem having it tethered to a plug socket, as I myself am asleep and don't need it to be portable during that time. I wake up in the morning, and it's fresh as a daisy for another day's usage.
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Having said all this, I really don't see why people have a problem with plugging it in overnight - I do this as a matter of course. It's not like it's a problem having it tethered to a plug socket, as I myself am asleep and don't need it to be portable during that time. I wake up in the morning, and it's fresh as a daisy for another day's usage.
Precisely my feeling on the battery thing. I usually get through a day with 60% remaining. Defo the poor signal of the OP is probably what is causing his battery woes.
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Yeah, the looking for a better signal absolutely nails the battery. I switch mine to 2G only whilst at home as the 3G signal is really weak.
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I have to say though, than an ENORMOUS drain on battery life occurs when you are in an area of particularly low signal. The phone spends a lot of time trying to pick up a signal. This is made worse when the phone is constantly switching between 2G and 3G signal (again, where signal is weak). If you have poor signal, consider switching off mobile internet or activating Airplane mode until you get back to a decent signal area. On one occasion I was in a meeting deep inside a building, and I found that the battery ran down completely after about 7 hours in a low-signal area, and the battery use meters said that 'Cell standby' had used 98% of available power. On a normal day, it's about 20%.
Had a similar thing myself today. Was in the London office where the signal is 'weird' (can't explain it exactly, but doesn't behaviour like normal) and my battery drained much quicker than my office in Cardiff.
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After my huge battery drain last weekend I decided to do some experimenting. I charged my phone up monday afternoon and took it off charge at around 6pm. I've switched everything off, all syncing, background syncing, data connections, everything, and put the phone to GSM mode only. So it's basically running like an old phone that can only do calls and texts. I wanted to see how long the battery would last under these circumstances. The battery is now still on 30% nearly 4 whole days later so there's nothing wrong with the battery life in my opinion, it's just 3G etc is VERY power hungry.

I have been running Juice Plotter the whole time though and have found something very interesting. For the first couple of days I was only texting occasionally and the battery has a constant drain of about 1% every 2-3 hours, which is what you would expect. Last night I had two quite lengthy phone conversations plus I also connected to wi fi to do a sync all etc then turned the wifi off straight away afterwards. So between 18.00 and 20.30 last night the battery dropped from 60% to 44%, again, to be expected given the use.

The interesting part is, once the phone had returned to it's just GSM state at 20.30 the battery continued to drop by a further 13% between 20.30 and 00.45, despite it supposedly being in exactly the same state as when it was only dropping 1% every 2-3 hours. At 00.45 I ran Task Panel to kill all background tasks and then checked the Juice Plotter graph this morning and sure enough the battery returned to dropping 1% every 2-3 hours from 00.45.

So, whilst I admit it's not conclusive proof, it does seem to indicate that either making calls or using sync etc leaves some processes running that drain the battery more than needed and running a task manager stopped them and return the battery drain to it's original drain state.
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Very happy with my battery. I'm easily getting a day out of it which is what I consider acceptable as I charge it overnight.
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i got more then 100 hours lifetime in one charge


but only talking around half an hour a day and ...no games, music, bluetooth, wifi etc.
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I've had mine for 4 days now.

Battery life is still horrible. I feel like I've bought a Sports car with a 5 litre fuel tank.

I don't buy all this stuff about turning off this and that. My experient since I bought the phone was to move from the 3gs, so I have set up the same services and the same apps etc, and I use it in the same way and work in the same location.

I will give it until next friday, and if it doesn't improve then I'll have to get rid. It lost 10% per hour while doing nothing last night while I was watching a movie. I went to bed at midnight with 70% showing and it was dead when I woke at 8.00am.
Screen is down to 25% brightness, no wi-fi (despite the 3gs being connected all the time), no FB, only one mail received in the night.

As I say, the jury is out. There are features I love about the phone, but the delicate nature of the OS is making it feel unreliable for me. Personally.
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10% drop an hour indicates something is running excessively.

What does spare parts show for other and partial wake? Flickr is a known killer
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I don't use flickr, I use photobucket (one of the best things I've discovered so far with android is that when I take a snap, PB uploads it automatically. I love that).
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Then spare parts is the only help you have in finding the cause
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Is that an app I can DL from the market?
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You could buy a second battery.

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@trick202 - yeah, rogue app from the sounds of it. you shouldn't be losing more than a couple of percent overnight.

To find out what's keeping your phone awake, just dial *#*#4636#*#* and select battery history. Then select partial wake usage from the drop down menu.
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I'm not even going to dignify that with a response.

A second battery? Lets fix the problems with the existing battery first eh? I've NEVER had to carry a second battery on any phone I've had, and I would consider it a sad day when I did.
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I've NEVER had to carry a second battery on any phone I've had, and I would consider it a sad day when I did.
The OP did say "I'm having to take my charger if I'm going out.". I figured a second battery would be a better solution.
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But that would be treating the symptom, not the illness.

There's a reason the battery life is so poor. THAT needs addressing - not just accepting.
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But that would be treating the symptom, not the illness.

There's a reason the battery life is so poor. THAT needs addressing - not just accepting.
Did you miss my above post?

Check your partial wake usage and report back.
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Battery life is not a problem IMO. Lasts 2 days easy.
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But that would be treating the symptom, not the illness.

There's a reason the battery life is so poor. THAT needs addressing - not just accepting.
In your case I would agree, but then there is some issue with the setup on your phone. Mine loses virtually nothing overnight, even leaving mobile and wireless on.
Mine has lasted 2 days with normal usage (bit of browsing, several phone calls, texts etc). To be honest I was trying to run the battery out and switched everything on to run the battery out, I reckon it would of lasted 3 days.

I think you need to do some investigation as to whats causing your problem before giving up.
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But that would be treating the symptom, not the illness.

There's a reason the battery life is so poor. THAT needs addressing - not just accepting.
I had exactly this problem last weekend. Charged the phone up, went to bed and by the time I got up it only had 50% left, despite everything being turned off data wise. I did some experimenting over the last week using Juice Plotter to see a graph of the battery decline. I also used Task Panel to shut stuff down. Made the battery last 5 days with light texting and calling use but no data.

In my opinion Android isn't as efficient as they say it is and people think it is and it's something that needs to be worked on.
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I had exactly this problem last weekend. Charged the phone up, went to bed and by the time I got up it only had 50% left, despite everything being turned off data wise. I did some experimenting over the last week using Juice Plotter to see a graph of the battery decline. I also used Task Panel to shut stuff down. Made the battery last 5 days with light texting and calling use but no data.

In my opinion Android isn't as efficient as they say it is and people think it is and it's something that needs to be worked on.

There's absolutely no question whatsoever of losing 50% charge overnight unless you have one of two things going on:

1. A faulty battery
2. An app preventing your phone from sleeping.

Since you say you're getting better performance now, we can rule out the faulty battery.


So this isn't representative of normal behaviour on an android phone and isn't an android issue. There's a bug with HTC's flickr syncing (possibly - there are conflicting reports over this) that could be causing it in your case. Or, as stated, it could be another app causing it.


The one area that really is a problem with android is the lack of quality control in the market. There are far too many dodgy, poorly tested apps out there that are causing issues like the one you guys are seeing.

They really need to get it sorted out, because most users won't know any better and will just assume that losing 10% charge an hour when you're not even using the phone is normal on the android platform...
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There's absolutely no question whatsoever of losing 50% charge overnight unless you have one of two things going on:

1. A faulty battery
2. An app preventing your phone from sleeping.

Since you say you're getting better performance now, we can rule out the faulty battery.


So this isn't representative of normal behaviour on an android phone and isn't an android issue. There's a bug with HTC's flickr syncing (possibly - there are conflicting reports over this) that could be causing it in your case. Or, as stated, it could be another app causing it.


The one area that really is a problem with android is the lack of quality control in the market. There are far too many dodgy, poorly tested apps out there that are causing issues like the one you guys are seeing.

They really need to get it sorted out, because most users won't know any better and will just assume that losing 10% charge an hour when you're not even using the phone is normal on the android platform...
Indeed, it does need sorting, I totally agree that a lot of people won't even realise and will think the phone has really bad battery life. It's for this reason I use Task Panel though. Not an automatic task killer as I don't think that's necessary, I've just added all the essential stuff to the ignore list and once I'm finished with a session on the phone I just press a single icon once to kill all the apps I've been using. That way I know nothing rogue is still running.
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I've stopped using the HTC widgets (eg calendar, clock, friendstream) and selected GSM only and my battery life has improved greatly. I also leave the screen brightness set to auto.

My phone has been unplugged from the power for 8 hrs. My wifi has been on all day today, and I've made over 1hr 10mins of calls, used the browser several times, sent numerous texts and my battery life is still 68%.

Live wallpaper doesn't seem to make much difference.

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I can get about a days use out of my desire, i think people just need to have realistic expectations. you can't expect to have a small phone that does everything AND has 100's of hours of standby time!

make sure all updates are set to off or reduced.
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Ok, I've been having problems too, but I think I've sorted my one out. I'll first go through the symptoms (apart from the obivious that the battery life is poor).

1. Go to Menu>>settings>>about phone>>battery. If your "awake time"="up time" then your phone isn't sleeping.

2. Type *#*#4636#*#* into your phone dialler. This will bring up the testing menu. Go to Battery History, then press "other usage" and select "partial wake usage". This shows what is causing your Desire to remain awake (even though the screen is off). More likely than not, this will show "calendar" as the biggest use. If this is the case go to the next step.

3. Go to Menu>>Settings>>Accounts & Sync. Now select the flickr account and then "remove account". Hopefully this should sort it. I don't use flickr and only logged in once hence why it's here.

Hopefully that should sort out 90% of you. If you have the "awake time"="up time" problem then at least you know that the problem is your Desire not going to sleep. And then the 2nd step will tell you what the problem is.
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I stll think somethings eating mine so ive done the above steps and indeed the calendar does top the list.

However, I removed Flickr when i got the phone as I dont use it..

Any other ideas what could be causing it.???

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Im pretty annoyed now people are reporting more than a days usage and im cutting no-where near it...


Ive recharged.

Forced closed calender + Disabled the syncs in it.

All ive got on is my mobile network.. (H)

I've literally only unlocked the phone to check the battery and after one hour, yes one hour i'm already down to 93%.

What am I doing wrong????
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Had my Desire for 3 weeks now, at first I thought the battery life was really bad but now I'm getting 2 days out of my battery, I class myself as an average user...
The battery does seem to get a lot better after a few charges
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Im pretty annoyed now people are reporting more than a days usage and im cutting no-where near it...

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I've literally only unlocked the phone to check the battery and after one hour, yes one hour i'm already down to 93%.

What am I doing wrong????


Well, I suspect anybody claiming to be getting two days out of their phone while actually using it is bullshitting.

In fact if anybody is going to claim that from now on, I'd suggest they post accompanying screenshots of their usage statistics.

Nonetheless, 7% in an hour is a lot if you genuinely haven't been using it.

How often are your various accounts syncing? ie Twitter, Facebook etc. Check this in accounts and sync.

Do you have any other apps that regularly connect to the net to update their data?



If you're sure that this isn't the issue, check out the partial wake usage again before your next charge and see if there's anything unusual in there.

And don't forget to check your awake time vs running time too.


edit: probably still be the calendar causing it... if that's the case, have a read through this thread on XDA for suggestions:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=666404
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Well, I suspect anybody claiming to be getting two days out of their phone while actually using it is bullshitting.

In fact if anybody is going to claim that from now on, I'd suggest they post accompanying screenshots of their usage statistics.

Nonetheless, 7% in an hour is a lot if you genuinely haven't been using it.

How often are your various accounts syncing? ie Twitter, Facebook etc. Check this in accounts and sync.

Do you have any other apps that regularly connect to the net to update their data?



If you're sure that this isn't the issue, check out the partial wake usage again before your next charge and see if there's anything unusual in there.

And don't forget to check your awake time vs running time too.
Thanks for your help pal..

Facebook is on manual, dont use twitter or anything else... I have my googlemail set up thats been given permission to use backround data as I need to see my emails as they're sent to me.

Admittedly I do have the screen on 100% as I love the look of it however i've hardly used it in the last hour so it cant be that.

As I type this its 10 minutes from two hours and is only dropped another 1% sanding at 92%.

And to be honest, calendar has gone to practicly nothing.... Maps has the tinyest bar (how i dont know though as been no-where near it) and had a brief look at face book...

So maybe as there is no trickle charge id already lost some...

I'll continue to monitor and report back..

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Just from my own experience, over the course of a day I expect an average of 4-5% battery usage an hour on my phone. For about 20 hours total.

But I wouldn't expect it to drop by more than maybe two percent an hour when I'm not using it.
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I am struggling to get a days worth of battery life out of my HTC desire.

I turn off wifi when not using it; rarely turn on GPS; use it in flight mode and I've just started using it on on request synchronisation rather than continuous updates for gmail, facebook etc
(and I don't use a live wall paper).

I've bought a spare battery which I carry round with me. For example today I was using my HTC desire and used 2 batteries during the day.

The battery is certainly not as good as the one I had on my previous Nokia smartphone.

I am using this phone more than any phone I've used previously (camera, browsing...). However, it definitely needs a better battery. The Desire is a brilliant phone. The battery is its achilles heel.
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