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Old November 13th, 2012, 01:26 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Check out the sharpness and clarity of the screen next to the iPhone 5, wow!

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Well, crud. Been waiting patiently for the GN2 on VZW and now this guy looks pretty awesome. Have the Galaxy Nexus Google phone from the Google Play store (a ccompletely clean phone is amazing) but I'm getting on LTE.

Okay, so I don't have a million apps and I go back and delete pictures I don't care about. My current phone has 13.3 gigs open, so no sd slot isn't that big, I guess. Wireless charging is cool, but for $10 you can mod the GN2 as well with Palm parts.

So, aside from the $100 less, what does this phone have over the GN2? I can't decide right now.
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So, aside from the $100 less, what does this phone have over the GN2? I can't decide right now.
A much better display, arguably better CPU and GPU, its thinner and lighter, Sense instead of TouchWiz and better build quality.
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Thanks, NightAngel for the additional hands-on info. Very helpful.
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A much better display, arguably better CPU and GPU, its thinner and lighter, Sense instead of TouchWiz and better build quality.
It's not thinner
DNA 9.73mm
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You gotta give props to HTC and VZW for the pricing. In the day of $299 super phones, they got this right. Might need to transfer my wife's upgrade for this one.
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And $599 Full Retail price is on par with the Motorola Droid Razr HD and the Samsung Galaxy S3 16GB.
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NightAngel, I am guessing Isis is not set up on this phone yet.
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NightAngel, another question.

How does this phone fit into your pocket? I know some people with the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 say it fits fine while some others have problems.
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NightAngel, I am guessing Isis is not set up on this phone yet.
Not sure what Isis is off top of head...

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NightAngel, another question.

How does this phone fit into your pocket? I know some people with the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 say it fits fine while some others have problems.
So far its been fine, I can def notice the difference from my rezound with extended battery though.
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And $599 Full Retail price is on par with the Motorola Droid Razr HD and the Samsung Galaxy S3 16GB.
If you have a family plan, a subsidy over $350 means its actually cheaper to add a line, buy said phone, swap a dumbphone onto the new line in order to be able to take the data package off, and move the new phone to your existing line, than it is to buy outright. Plus then instead of paying it all upfront, you are paying $199 up front, and the rest over the two year contract for that new line. Add in the sales tax savings of $400* your rate, and its a healthy $50+ savings in addition to not needing it all upfront.
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Isis is VZW's answer to Google Wallet.
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If you have a family plan, a subsidy over $350 means its actually cheaper to add a line, buy said phone, swap a dumbphone onto the new line in order to be able to take the data package off, and move the new phone to your existing line, than it is to buy outright. Plus then instead of paying it all upfront, you are paying $199 up front, and the rest over the two year contract for that new line. Add in the sales tax savings of $400* your rate, and its a healthy $50+ savings in addition to not needing it all upfront.
Yeah I know about this. I know some people who have used this 'workaround' to keep their VZW Unlimited Data Package. I was commenting on the Full Retail price is the same for the other two phones I listed, in case somebody is interested in paying Full Retail price for the phone.
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It's not thinner
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Saw this phone and got happy at first. The specs look really good, but the batt life and limited memory really kill it for me. I've had a Thunderbolt for the past two years and the crappy battery life has really been an issue. I'm not trying to set myself up for that problem again. And the lack of memory is just puzzling. I can't understand why they'd only offer 16 GB and no other alternatives. I don't even consider myself a memory hog and even I am using more than 16 GB of total storage on my phone.
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The phone looks awesome and I'm sure if i had to i could get used to the battery, but 11GB of storage is a definite no go for me. This is why HTC is spiraling downward, because they're either too stubborn or stupid to get everything right with one of their phones. VERY disappointing.
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If it had more storage it would be in danger of being the perfect phone, since that is never gonna happen I can live with the storage.

I may have to adjust some of my habits but I don't think this will be an issue
If its not personal, what would you need to adjust? I dont use my phone for games but movies in the future...?

I see TDKR and Asphault as primary storage hogs...
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So disappointed. Such a nice big display and no way to store more than about 3.5 hours of 1080p video. Automatic deal breaker for me. I carry about 14 gb of music on my phone at all times. Can't afford to stream it all day thanks to shared data. Boneheaded move HTC. You lost a sale. Holding on to my GN2 preorder.
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So disappointed. Such a nice big display and no way to store more than about 3.5 hours of 1080p video. Automatic deal breaker for me. I carry about 14 gb of music on my phone at all times. Can't afford to stream it all day thanks to shared data. Boneheaded move HTC. You lost a sale. Holding on to my GN2 preorder.
Oh yeah, thanks for reminding me about this. If I upgrade, I lose my unlimited data, so being able to store things on my phone rather than having to stream it makes all the difference. Very disappointing.
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Yeah I just checked my phone, and I don't actually use up that much storage space. (With the exception of Nandroid back-ups, I have 7GB of those, but I can watch those to make sure I only have one at a time on my device)
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The battery size and storage are a deal breaker from me. I'm coming from a Thunderbolt and I won't deal with battery problems again.
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The battery size and storage are a deal breaker from me. I'm coming from a Thunderbolt and I won't deal with battery problems again.
Well you won't have that to worry about with the DROID DNA, the battery has been leaps and bounds better than I expected

Storage is regrettable but I will see if it actually makes a difference in long run
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Well you won't have that to worry about with the DROID DNA, the battery has been leaps and bounds better than I expected

Storage is regrettable but I will see if it actually makes a difference in long run
I hope you're right, I'm going to hold off on upgrading my Tbolt until I get some hands on with a DNA and see what the battery life is like when the phone is activated.

Thanks for all of the info, great job.
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I hope you're right, I'm going to hold off on upgrading my Tbolt until I get some hands on with a DNA and see what the battery life is like when the phone is activated.

Thanks for all of the info, great job.
Glad I could help :-)

But phone has been activated all day now. So far kicking butt still, tomorrow is the real test. Start off day full battery, use phone all day at work on lte and see where I stand after my shift
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I just preordered mine. I am disappointed by the 16Gb memory but I think I can live without it. Finally decommissioning my DINC1 that I've had since before they originally hit the shelves, a real trooper of a phone. I'd keep it around but it keeps overheating when I'm pushing a 3G signal.
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I am curious to see the diplay in person. I prefer the brightness and colors of LCD over Amoled in general. But, I don't know if I will notice the difference between 720p and 1080p on a device that small. When I was shopping for TVs and Projectors, what I always read was that over two screen diagnals away from the unit, the human eye can no longer tell the difference. If that is true, than on a 5 inch display, if you are 10 inches or more from your face, you can't tell the difference between 720p and 1080. Now my 13 year old son can hold the phone 5 inches from his face and still be in focus. But, I am starting to notice my age, and I am getting to that 10 inch zone soon. I will definitely check this phone out in person, but I'm leaning toward the Note 2 for the bigger screen, super battery life, S pen, and expandable memory. I did not like the screen in my brothers S3 very much, but was blown away by the Note 2 screen, in terms of brightness, color reproduction, and lack of pixelation/sharpness to my eyes.
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Saw this phone and got happy at first. The specs look really good, but the batt life and limited memory really kill it for me. I've had a Thunderbolt for the past two years and the crappy battery life has really been an issue. I'm not trying to set myself up for that problem again. And the lack of memory is just puzzling. I can't understand why they'd only offer 16 GB and no other alternatives. I don't even consider myself a memory hog and even I am using more than 16 GB of total storage on my phone.
Anyone who's been rocking a Thunderbolt for two years deserves mad props.
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Amen to that! Lol
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16 Gig storage is disappointing.

My Rezound came with about 40 Gigs (That's what it says when plugged into the PC) and I am using about 10 Gigs of it so that would max out the DNA storage.

I don't carry movies around as HULU + Netflix + Unlimited data works for me.
But I do record a lot of videos and if I'm away form home long I guess I'd be using Dropbox like crazy to clear my HD videos I record to make room.

I was planning on getting the Note II because I thought the DNA was coming out next year.

But I dunno. I love my HTC's.

I sure hope this thing can play youtube and be able to go send messages at the same time like the Note 2 can.
That's the one thing that I wish my Rezound could do.
Other than that my Rezound works flawless.
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But phone has been activated all day now. So far kicking butt still, tomorrow is the real test. Start off day full battery, use phone all day at work on lte and see where I stand after my shift
Try to kick it's a**. Battery performance could really be my tipping point. Of course, don't get in trouble at work.
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I did not like the screen in my brothers S3 very much, but was blown away by the Note 2 screen, in terms of brightness, color reproduction, and lack of pixelation/sharpness to my eyes.
I need to look into this. You're saying there is a discernible difference between S3 and the Note 2 displays?

The other major detail...if not THE most important...is reception. I'm still trying to get over the banana in the tail pipe that was the Samsung Galaxy Nexus on Verizon. It kept me from taking advantage of my last subsidy (while keeping my unlimited data) from Verizon with the S3, and has me leery of the Note 2. I've read the S3's reception is improved from the Nexus, but the Note 2's performance on LTE is still a question mark, is it not? I guess the same could be said about DNA, but we have NightAngel as our guinea pig, lol. Work that LTE tomorrow NA.
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Wow, my wife said go get it! Of course for the subsidized price, not the retail price, Haha. Oh well. We'll see if I can resist it once I see it in person.
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I just checked my memory cards on my Bionic. I don't have a lot of apps, but do have music, photos, and documents for work, notes, etc. I'm at 11 gigs total. I Would have no room for any additional photos or videos taken with the new phone! What were they thinking?!? A version with 32 gigs has to be in the plans....
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I just checked my memory cards on my Bionic. I don't have a lot of apps, but do have music, photos, and documents for work, notes, etc. I'm at 11 gigs total. I Would have no room for any additional photos or videos taken with the new phone! What were they thinking?!? A version with 32 gigs has to be in the plans....
It would be nice but it doesn't look like it (so far)
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I think so. The technology is different between the two, and the N2 is brighter.
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I've got mine pre-ordered and I can't stand waiting..
I am however, waiting on the battery test on this thing.

Any ideas of qi compatible chargers beside the energizer and lg? I thought I saw one before that had the phone held at an angle but cannot find it for the life of me.
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I've got mine pre-ordered and I can't stand waiting..
I am however, waiting on the battery test on this thing.

Any ideas of qi compatible chargers beside the energizer and lg? I thought I saw one before that had the phone held at an angle but cannot find it for the life of me.
Probably thinking of the nexus 4 charger
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Nah, that wasn't it. Was a sexy looking device that held it at a greater angle.
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for those complaining about the storage, use one of the many cloud services to store your bigger files. with 4glte accessing them is quick and simple!
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for those complaining about the storage, use one of the many cloud services to store your bigger files. with 4glte accessing them is quick and simple!
Cloud storage is great if you have unlimited data and always have a solid lte connection, but that's certainly not the case for the majority of people anymore. I used to only use Google music to play my tunes through my car stereo, and there was a few months where i went over my 10GB data limit.
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Cloud storage is great if you have unlimited data and always have a solid lte connection, but that's certainly not the case for the majority of people anymore. I used to only use Google music to play my tunes through my car stereo, and there was a few months where i went over my 10GB data limit.
Good point and the only complaint I have with phone so far, I'm unlimited but I had over 5 gigs of books saved to sd on rezound
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Regarding accessories are the chargers for the droid incredible 2 compatible with the DNA?
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Regarding accessories are the chargers for the droid incredible 2 compatible with the DNA?
Yes, it is standard micro usb, it's not even the funny shaped rezound one
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Anyone who's been rocking a Thunderbolt for two years deserves mad props.
Well it's not like I had much of a choice. I signed the contract, so I was stuck with it for two years. It has it's problems but not enough of them to warrant me going and buying replacement phone at the full retail price.

It was my first smartphone though, so it was definitely an upgrade even with all the problems.
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Good point and the only complaint I have with phone so far, I'm unlimited but I had over 5 gigs of books saved to sd on rezound
I was wondering how you were so sure of the 2020 battery BTW Lol! Yeah the storage is a real bummer for me they were so close to making my dream phone!
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Yeah, I still have unlimited data, but my issue is with my Nexus, my desk at work gets almost no 4G, and only dismal 3G. Streaming is hit or miss, and transferring files to/from the cloud is pretty much out of the question. But I have found HTC's radios to be better (that is the case comparing my phone to the Rezound anyways), so maybe I will be able to hold on to a 4G signal, and then its no problem.
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NightAngel, another question.

How does this phone fit into your pocket? I know some people with the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 say it fits fine while some others have problems.
This device feels way better in my pocket than my Rezound. Especially considering that I had the extended battery on it, which made it an absolute brick.

This thing is slim enough that I don't even feel it there. Feels a lot like my GS3.
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Yeah, I still have unlimited data, but my issue is with my Nexus, my desk at work gets almost no 4G, and only dismal 3G. Streaming is hit or miss, and transferring files to/from the cloud is pretty much out of the question. But I have found HTC's radios to be better (that is the case comparing my phone to the Rezound anyways), so maybe I will be able to hold on to a 4G signal, and then its no problem.
This was my concern about SG3. Some said the radio was fine and others experienced issues. And since I tend to travel into the middle of nowhere for my job, I have not had issue with me Dinc.

Now to see how DA's battery stress test goes. I am looking forward to all the data points and sampling to put together my own theory. LOL! Of course I jest about the data points....
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This was my concern about SG3. Some said the radio was fine and others experienced issues. And since I tend to travel into the middle of nowhere for my job, I have not had issue with me Dinc.
This was also my biggest complaint with the GS3. Samsung's radios just don't cut it.
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This was also my biggest complaint with the GS3. Samsung's radios just don't cut it.
And that was my waffle. I like the SG3 features with TouchWiz (text to phone call, left right swipe from contacts); but being stuck out in a mill with no signal makes my life miserable.

I also assume that should I get giggly I can use launchers on this phone as well? I also want to dive into Tasker and NFC tags as well because...well just because I am a dork!
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I'm researching this for my wife's replacement, she has the original TB as well and always complains about the battery, so that is huge, along with boot up time and phone quality. I have the Galaxy Nexus and while I like the phone, call quality is not what I expected. She doesn't need lots of storage so that's a non issue for her. I'm also looking at the Droid Maxx HD from Motorola which is supposed to have great battery life. She's thinking about the iphone 5 but isn't sure she'll like learning a new system and the lack of a back button on the iphone worries her as well. Looking forward to battery use reports. Thanks again, NA
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