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Old November 15th, 2012, 07:31 AM   #151 (permalink)
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This device runs real cool. Both of the sides are completely ventilated with metal grates that run almost the whole length of the phone. I expect this thing will stay nice and cool.
I may have missed something, but this is the first mention of the side grills actually being vents. If so, that may be a great idea (unless it allows moisture, etc. to get in.) I've had problems in the past with my Dinc2 getting hot while doing heavy GPS + Streaming audio. I'm very interested in getting more temperature vs load info.

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You won't need a new contract to go from 3G to 4G, so you won't lose unlimited if you do that. They DO have to change the data code, but since data is considered an add-on feature, and not associated with the contract plan, you can change it without affecting your contract.
Looking at my bill I am paying 23.99 pre tax/title/license for my unlimited data plan per phone (2) I got on 1/03/10.

Do given what you said above do you think they will adjust that pricing? I know we are talking in theoreticals and only a Verzion person will either do/wont something.

And 8hr 43 minutes doesnt sound to bad. Seems like if they could have squeezed in a 2100 or heck a 2500 it would surpass the GS3. So 2020 seems to be acceptable processing right now...
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A Full Review was just posted. 10hrs of battery life were stated...everything else was glowing! 99% sure I'm going to Verizon on Wednesday to buy this.

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Anyone know the in-store release date? I hate preorders and shipping. The wait kills me.
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Verizon Stores will have it when their doors open on the 21st. Not sure about Best Buy, but I'm assuming they will have it too.
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Looking at my bill I am paying 23.99 pre tax/title/license for my unlimited data plan per phone (2) I got on 1/03/10.

Do given what you said above do you think they will adjust that pricing? I know we are talking in theoreticals and only a Verzion person will either do/wont something.

And 8hr 43 minutes doesnt sound to bad. Seems like if they could have squeezed in a 2100 or heck a 2500 it would surpass the GS3. So 2020 seems to be acceptable processing right now...
Shouldn't change anything at all. Same price, same unlimited, just different data code that the CSR has to put in when you activate the phone.
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New battery screen shot request.

GPS on all the time, LTE on all the time, BlueTooth on all the time, Wif-Fi on all the time....moderate/heavy screen use. Can this go past 6-7 hours?

Every review I've ready across the internet, which is only a few, has 8-12 hours as the average with this phone. To me this is pretty great considering the battery size vs screen size, but I'm still skeptical of just how they are using it. Are they "trying" to eek out the battery life to make it sound good? I want someone to use and abuse the phone and try to kill it! "Insert Evil Laugh!"
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A Full Review was just posted. 10hrs of battery life were stated...everything else was glowing! 99% sure I'm going to Verizon on Wednesday to buy this.

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Yeah, the news about the 4G inside was huge for me... I am plagued by a horrific 4G signal inside my office. I can get it only by placing my phone on top of my highest shelf, where my charger won't reach... If I can get 4G on my desk, it is worth its weight in gold, and the storage issues go away, as I will just stream from the cloud or internet my media..
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Can you post shots with screen on time please? I'm really curious.
Phone doesn't keep track of that, will need an additional app.

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GPS on all the time, LTE on all the time, BlueTooth on all the time, Wif-Fi on all the time....moderate/heavy screen use. Can this go past 6-7 hours? "
I feel ya but this isn't really practical. Why would you have LTE AND WiFi on all the time?

Check out the screen shots in first post of this thread. I have a TON of screen on time last couple hours of phone being on, netflix, reading books, and some pandora (with screen off)

It 'real' world use I will turn LTE off at times, and use wifi maybe if i'm gonna be somewhere (other than home) for a while and i wanna save battery life.

I purposely don't use WiFi at home to 1. test out the battery life, and 2. because I'm unlimited data and the LTE performs better than my home 20mbps internet.

If I turned wifi on at home i could [i]easily]/i] get 20 hours with heavy to moderate usage.
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I feel ya but this isn't really practical. Why would you have LTE AND WiFi on all the time?
At least on the Dinc, if you are connected to WiFi, even if 3g radio is active, it; the 3g goes dormant and is not used until WiFi is disconnected. So its an either or scenario isn't it? Does 4G behave differently?
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Yeah on every phone I have, both wifi and 3g or LTE is on. Thats not saying my wifi is connected at all times but I don't turn it off.
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Yeah on every phone I have, both wifi and 3g or LTE is on. Thats not saying my wifi is connected at all times but I don't turn it off.
I don't turn my GPS off ever. I usually turn wifi off, but occasionally I leave it on all the time with my mobile data.
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Can you address the Amazon bloat that was mentioned in Engadget article. Two concerns: 1) Is it removable to provide additional storage; and 2) Can you confirm that Google play is installed?


There seems to be some confusion/conflicting reports. Thanks for your help with all the info.
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Hey NightAngel. Thanks for all of the info you've given so far. I'm gonna ask a non battery related question lol but what do you think of Sense 4+ and the pre loaded apps. I'm on a GNex right now so I've been lucky with very little bloat pure Vanilla Android. Do you think Sense is kind of overpowering? For comparisons sake, I'm not a big TouchWIZ fan. Thanks!
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I leave gps on 24/7 as well. I never have WiFi on at though
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Can you address the Amazon bloat that was mentioned in Engadget article. Two concerns: 1) Is it removable to provide additional storage; and 2) Can you confirm that Google play is installed?


There seems to be some confusion/conflicting reports. Thanks for your help with all the info.
Comes with a pre-installed amazon widget (which i removed) and I hid all the bloat (there wasn't much) so my app drawer is very clean.

I had to side-load the amazon app store

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Hey NightAngel. Thanks for all of the info you've given so far. I'm gonna ask a non battery related question lol but what do you think of Sense 4+ and the pre loaded apps. I'm on a GNex right now so I've been lucky with very little bloat pure Vanilla Android. Do you think Sense is kind of overpowering? For comparisons sake, I'm not a big TouchWIZ fan. Thanks!
LOVE sense, preloaded apps I've hid already so they don't bother me at all. Love the sense interface personally
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Anyone know the in-store release date? I hate preorders and shipping. The wait kills me.
When I pre-ordered the DINC1 I received it two days before it arrived in the stores and by that time there was a wait list.
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Nov 21st?!? Nooo I am going to be out of the country.
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from what I see on my DNA, you can't uninstall the amazon stuff, only disable it so you wont gain back that storage space, but it is negligible anyway. There is very little bloatware on it as nightangel said.
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I will say, lean ROMs will have a lot of value for this phone.
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also after my first use of it on network and wifi, and constantly downloading stuff from my box account it went down to 14% after 10 hours of use. this was with screen on most of the time, network on and wifi. gps was off but i was downloading apps, music and other files over the network.

Tomorrow i will be driving around all day with the gps on and in use with google nav. Ill leave it unplugged while doing it to see how long it lasts.
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If 10 hours of moderate-heavy usage is what I have to look forward to... I am going to be just fine with this phone
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HTC could have eased our concerns with a slightly bigger battery but it seems it is just ok now.
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Agreed. Not a flop, but they didn't go beyond the call of duty for sure.
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Also want to mention this phone is a steal at the price they set it at.

$199 on contract is pretty good considering the Note 2 is $299!

I personally buy my phones off contract and it is $599! That is a STEAL. The iPhone 5 costs $650 and the Note 2 is $699!
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Also want to mention this phone is a steal at the price they set it at.

$199 on contract is pretty good considering the Note 2 is $299!

I personally buy my phones off contract and it is $599! That is a STEAL. The iPhone 5 costs $650 and the Note 2 is $699!
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Thanks for the info NightAngel, I'll be stealing an upgrade and likely losing my unlimited in the process, but i use less than 1 gig a month with wifi at both home and work. It also opens the door for my parents to get phones that arent complete turds haha. Ill be sad to see the rezound go as its been a great phone, but I just love everything about this phone from what Ive seen and read.
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just wondering if it came out of the box with a task manager
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None that I can find.
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None that I can find.
That's OK since Astro exists and is possibly one of the bests free apparently out there.

I meant to ask this before, but how fast is the phone. I use all the Go products (launcher, locker, SMS, etc). I love the customization, but at times they noticeably bog my Thunderbolt down. Will this be an issue with the DNA?
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That's OK since Astro exists and is possibly one of the bests free apparently out there.

I meant to ask this before, but how fast is the phone. I use all the Go products (launcher, locker, SMS, etc). I love the customization, but at times they noticeably bog my Thunderbolt down. Will this be an issue with the DNA?
I haven't tried GoLauncher on here, only NovaLauncher so far. I can't imagine there will be any noticeable lag. Between the processor/GPU/RAM I doubt there'll be anything to worry about.
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Does anyone know if the DNA does simultaneous voice and data? I know the Thunderbolt did and it was great for that. My Nexus does not and it would be handy. Thanks.
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Does anyone know if the DNA does simultaneous voice and data? I know the Thunderbolt did and it was great for that. My Nexus does not and it would be handy. Thanks.
It does, as long as you have 4G coverage
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Only the Thunderbolt and Rezound did SVDO on 3G, due to their radio setup.
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Just checked Wirefly. They have it on pre order for $149.00 upgrade or new line!
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Hey NA I was wondering if you could comment on the brightness level of the DNA's screen at max brightness. I love bright screens and have always kept my phones' "automatic brightness" controls disabled so the phone can always be on max. That was one of the primary reasons I didn't get the GS3. The screen was/is way too dark for me even at maximum brightness. I know the brightness king is the iphone 5 but I was wondering if you found the DNA's screen to be adequately bright? Also one or two reviewers have mentioned a "bluish cast" to the screen. Have you compared the whites of this phone on the google home page to other, competing phones? Are the whites truly white? I'm a current owner of the Gnex and the horrible yellowish cast on what's supposed to be white has driven me nuts.

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Hey NA I was wondering if you could comment on the brightness level of the DNA's screen at max brightness. I love bright screens and have always kept my phones' "automatic brightness" controls disabled so the phone can always be on max. That was one of the primary reasons I didn't get the GS3. The screen was/is way too dark for me even at maximum brightness. I know the brightness king is the iphone 5 but I was wondering if you found the DNA's screen to be adequately bright? Also one or two reviewers have mentioned a "bluish cast" to the screen. Have you compared the whites of this phone on the google home page to other, competing phones? Are the whites truly white? I'm a current owner of the Gnex and the horrible yellowish cast on what's supposed to be white has driven me nuts.

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Disclaimer! I am colorblind, lol (not really bad, but bad enough where words like 'true white' have zero meaning for me, lol)

That said, I have the iPhone 5 (hush up, its company provided) right here. That darn thing is so bright it almost hurts to look at. DNA is much easier on the eyes. But everything looks great, just not quite as bright as the iphone
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Disclaimer! I am colorblind, lol (not really bad, but bad enough where words like 'true white' have zero meaning for me, lol)

That said, I have the iPhone 5 (hush up, its company provided) right here. That darn thing is so bright it almost hurts to look at. DNA is much easier on the eyes. But everything looks great, just not quite as bright as the iphone
I see nothing wrong with using an iphone, I have an iphone 5 as well. I am the biggest android supporter I personally know, but I like to switch it up and try out everything.

The iphone 5 is nice, but no way is revolutionary. It really is still too small for my liking but I understand why some like it. Honestly I have found more bugs with it than any other iphone I have used, could just be ios6 though.

I could never leave android though, I don't mind using ios and wp7, soon to try out wp8, but android is home to me, and I've been there since the first android phone.

But what kind of tech person would I be if I didn't give everything a fair shot? I love all tech, just so happens when it comes to phones, I love android more.

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Reading the reviews and the comments about battery life are concerning to me. I got a DInc 4G (after a GNex and TBolt) solely due to the battery life. It is the first phone I've had since I switched from BB 3 years ago that I can go all day with and do not have to always be on the lookout for a charger. I want to pre-order this to have it over Thanksgiving, but I cannot go back to always needing to charge. Hopefully the real-world comments come back in and prove the reviews wrong.
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But what kind of tech person would I be if I didn't give everything a fair shot? I love all tech, just so happens when it comes to phones, I love android more.
I'm with you, but when it comes to phones I can't afford to own more than one at a time. I am planning to pick up the DNA on Wednesday though
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iPhone 5 user here too. No shame at all. It is downright more reliable and the best daily driver for me.

I like to play and tinker with Android though.
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I used the phone this morning driving around with the GPS on using google nav, with 4g data turned on and wifi turned on(but obviously not connected to anything) and i left the screen on bright and the map open. After 3 hours it went down to 51%.

I think that is pretty good. Normally when driving around using nav I turn wifi off, switch 4g to 3g and generally dont have the screen on.
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I used the phone this morning driving around with the GPS on using google nav, with 4g data turned on and wifi turned on(but obviously not connected to anything) and i left the screen on bright and the map open. After 3 hours it went down to 51%.

I think that is pretty good. Normally when driving around using nav I turn wifi off, switch 4g to 3g and generally dont have the screen on.
That's actually really amazing. I'm usually down 10% within 15 mins when I do the same on my GNex
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I also used navigation for about an hour, while playing Pandora hooked up to car with auxiliary cable. After an hour battery barely went down 5 percent.

Beats audio sounded awesome with Pandora btw
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Hmmmm... now I'm thinking I might want to get a new phone.
Thanks a lot NA, before this I was perfectly happy with my Razr.
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