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Old November 30th, 2012, 07:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Well, I've seen a few posts talking about how amazing the battery life is, and I personally am experiencing something different.

I've owned my DNA for about 2 days. The battery life isn't bad, but it concerns me with its' current performance. These past 2 days, I checked my battery once school ended. Both times, they were around 70-75 percent. I hadn't used the phone for much of anything past checking the time, and it managed to drain 1/4 of the battery. It kinda concerns me in all honesty. I'll try it out this weekend, but I was wondering, would anyone have any idea why? I don't have Bluetooth on or anything, so I don't see why.

I really like this phone, but if I can't get the battery to perform well enough to not worry me, I will have to move on to the Note 2.

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Old November 30th, 2012, 09:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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So wait is it lasting a 6-8 hour school day and only going down to 70-75%, that is pretty good to be honest. I work 8 hours a day and my GNex which has an extended battery goes down that much and i do a little texting and listen to music.
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Old December 1st, 2012, 06:15 AM   #3 (permalink)
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What do you think it should be? Do you have all radios turned off and all updating/syncing tuned off?

This phone/bettery isnt going to rival the Maxx. What it does do is very good given size and capability of the phone. Lots of posts indicate it will go toe to toe with SG3 which is the comparitive phone class. Not the Note.

I have also seen a recent post showing a person with 60% and a day and six hoirs logged on the phone. So results do vary on location, whats enabled and what the phone is doing. What logging investigation have you done to track down.whats running?
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Well, I've seen a few posts talking about how amazing the battery life is, and I personally am experiencing something different.

I've owned my DNA for about 2 days. The battery life isn't bad, but it concerns me with its' current performance. These past 2 days, I checked my battery once school ended. Both times, they were around 70-75 percent. I hadn't used the phone for much of anything past checking the time, and it managed to drain 1/4 of the battery. It kinda concerns me in all honesty. I'll try it out this weekend, but I was wondering, would anyone have any idea why? I don't have Bluetooth on or anything, so I don't see why.

I really like this phone, but if I can't get the battery to perform well enough to not worry me, I will have to move on to the Note 2.

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I moved on to the Note 2 from the DNA just yesterday in fact. I was running juice defender and it still wasnt working. Yesterday I used the DNA moderately. A few texts and emails, some web browsing, watched a few Youtube videos and downloaded a few apps. After 5 hours off the charger, I was at 42% battery. I literally watched it drop 5% while I was reading an article on Phonedog for 6-7 minutes. Completely unacceptable. I loved lots of things about the phone but putting a tiny battery into a phone with a 5 inch, 1080p display and then making it non removable was a terrible idea.

My Note 2 has been off the charger from its first full charge for 3h 32m and I am still at 83% battery. My DNA was well under 60 yesterday at this time. A 2500mah battery would have been perfect or at least the option to swap in a new one. Oh well.
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I moved on to the Note 2 from the DNA just yesterday in fact. I was running juice defender and it still wasnt working. Yesterday I used the DNA moderately. A few texts and emails, some web browsing, watched a few Youtube videos and downloaded a few apps. After 5 hours off the charger, I was at 42% battery. I literally watched it drop 5% while I was reading an article on Phonedog for 6-7 minutes. Completely unacceptable. I loved lots of things about the phone but putting a tiny battery into a phone with a 5 inch, 1080p display and then making it non removable was a terrible idea.

My Note 2 has been off the charger from its first full charge for 3h 32m and I am still at 83% battery. My DNA was well under 60 yesterday at this time. A 2500mah battery would have been perfect or at least the option to swap in a new one. Oh well.
From my own personal experience when you want something you will find a reason why the alliterative is better. I go 16 hrs on my DNA before needing a charge and as others have pointed out the battery life isnt that bad -- It just depends on what you really wanted vs what the DNA had to offer. In the end Im happy you found a device that makes you happy.
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Yeah, its more what YOU want. I personally have no interest in the note 2, its too bulky and its a samsung device which i dislike from the start really. DNA has been perfect for me. Zero complaints honestly.
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I moved on to the Note 2 from the DNA just yesterday in fact. I was running juice defender and it still wasnt working. Yesterday I used the DNA moderately. A few texts and emails, some web browsing, watched a few Youtube videos and downloaded a few apps. After 5 hours off the charger, I was at 42% battery. I literally watched it drop 5% while I was reading an article on Phonedog for 6-7 minutes. Completely unacceptable. I loved lots of things about the phone but putting a tiny battery into a phone with a 5 inch, 1080p display and then making it non removable was a terrible idea.

My Note 2 has been off the charger from its first full charge for 3h 32m and I am still at 83% battery. My DNA was well under 60 yesterday at this time. A 2500mah battery would have been perfect or at least the option to swap in a new one. Oh well.
I must say, based on my experience, yours WAS terrible. Makes me think you had a wakelock or something, because the only time I have had battery drain that fast I was using it almost non-stop for the entire 5 hours. Had 3 hours of screen on time, on a weak 4G connection during that time. Today I was at 6.5 hours, same 4G connection, 1h45m of screen on time, and still had 66% remaining. But it if it ain't working, it ain't working, hope you are happy with your Note 2!
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I moved on to the Note 2 from the DNA just yesterday in fact. I was running juice defender and it still wasnt working. Yesterday I used the DNA moderately. A few texts and emails, some web browsing, watched a few Youtube videos and downloaded a few apps. After 5 hours off the charger, I was at 42% battery. I literally watched it drop 5% while I was reading an article on Phonedog for 6-7 minutes. Completely unacceptable. I loved lots of things about the phone but putting a tiny battery into a phone with a 5 inch, 1080p display and then making it non removable was a terrible idea.

My Note 2 has been off the charger from its first full charge for 3h 32m and I am still at 83% battery. My DNA was well under 60 yesterday at this time. A 2500mah battery would have been perfect or at least the option to swap in a new one. Oh well.
With respect, a 2500 battery would give you another 1.5 hours battery life? (or about that)

A jumo from the 2020 to a 3100 (note 2 right?) would be a huge difference I'm sure. If the DNA had a 3000+ battery it would destroy all other phones (including the maxx) imo. Battery optimization is just that good IMO

But it is what it is, HTC went with a 2020. Hope you love the Note! (i personally can't stand samsung UI but to each there own)
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DNA wont let you turn off background data(jellybean driven?)...if it did everyone would pick up an extra hour or so a day.

I ran 14 hours straight (4:30am -6:30pm) on my 1st day initial charge w/4G running all day, auto sync off all day, 60 min of youtube combined, pulled email 5 times, browsed 10-15 websites(static pages) texted 20 times, screen set at 45 sec timeout. (4-5) 2-10 min calls

In 14 hour period it was 96% in morning and 12% after 14hrs. YOU HAVE to know how to turn things on/off in settings - bottom line. If this is unacceptable to you than smartphones may not be for you.

If I left autosync 'on' all day just to pull a few emails as they came in id only get 5-9 hrs. Autosync is the big battery killer besides 4G. If your not browsing TURN 4G OFF! Battery will skyrocket! Only downside is you wont get MMS delivered instantly.....lol
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DNA wont let you turn off background data(jellybean driven?)...if it did everyone would pick up an extra hour or so a day.

I ran 14 hours straight (4:30am -6:30pm) on my 1st day initial charge w/4G running all day, auto sync off all day, 60 min of youtube combined, pulled email 5 times, browsed 10-15 websites(static pages) texted 20 times, screen set at 45 sec timeout. (4-5) 2-10 min calls

In 14 hour period it was 96% in morning and 12% after 14hrs. YOU HAVE to know how to turn things on/off in settings - bottom line. If this is unacceptable to you than smartphones may not be for you.

If I left autosync 'on' all day just to pull a few emails as they came in id only get 5-9 hrs. Autosync is the big battery killer besides 4G. If your not browsing TURN 4G OFF! Battery will skyrocket! Only downside is you wont get MMS delivered instantly.....lol
would that only be sync with stock email..i dont have the dna yet but most likely will be getting one so trying to read up and gather all the tips..right now i use k-9 emails and have that pushing email
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I've been chiming in on how great the batt life is also. But since it's X-mas time I ran into a few problems recently (sorry to hijack). I went to two different Malls in the past week. Both Malls killed my Batt. It was like I had the Gnex again. At work and around town it's been great. But in these two malls the battery drained infront of my eyes. I don't know if it was the 4G/3G thing? when I check to see whats draining battery, "maps" is always at over 50%. I shut off Google now in case it was that but Maps is still coming up even today. Does anyone know why Maps would be showing up all the time? What uses it? Because I haven't used maps or navigation either time I had these bad Batt drains. It must be the 4G/3G bad signal. I did lose reception totally in a few of the stores. So the signal must be bad in these two Malls. But I thought these new "combined radios" we didn't have to worry about that anymore? Is anyone else having Maps as the number one batt drain when they check?
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Maps is always on on mine too, it might be location setting
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Maps is always on on mine too, it might be location setting

I wouldn't care but it seems to be using most of the battery. Unless those stats we go to don't really mean that? I would think somone would of complained about this already?
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I wouldn't care but it seems to be using most of the battery. Unless those stats we go to don't really mean that? I would think somone would of complained about this already?
I disable maps unless I'm using navigation so it's not always running in the background.
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I wouldn't care but it seems to be using most of the battery. Unless those stats we go to don't really mean that? I would think somone would of complained about this already?
Did you check location settings in google map? Turn off things like location report, sharing, history if they are checked. Otherwise it will monitor, track your location in background.
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Did you check location settings in google map? Turn off things like location report, sharing, history if they are checked. Otherwise it will monitor, track your location in background.
Thanks for the tip!

Now my battery life, which I already thought was pretty good, has improved markedly!
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Did you check location settings in google map? Turn off things like location report, sharing, history if they are checked. Otherwise it will monitor, track your location in background.

Thanks. I did it but Maps is still the number one user of my battery. But I don't think that was my "Mall" problem anyways. I think that was bad 4G/3G signal area. I shut off 4G and am going to same mall this weekend to test.


But i still would like to know why Maps is using so much battery. Or, again, maybe it isn't. maybe that over 50% is normal and i just mis-understand it?
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Worked for me , maps is not runnung all the time now
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Worked for me , maps is not runnung all the time now

Humm, nope i just checked again. EVERYTHING under location setting (in Maps) is off. i don't have one thing checked. Plus i just checked my batt stats again and maps is over 50%. I even found a location setting on the browser and shut everything off in that also. what else could be using maps?

i also shut off google now (in case that was using it)


P.S. just restarted my phone to see if i never cleared it. And the second i checked "whats using battery" , maps is at 50% (instantly) and on top of the list.
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Humm, nope i just checked again. EVERYTHING under location setting (in Maps) is off. i don't have one thing checked. Plus i just checked my batt stats again and maps is over 50%. I even found a location setting on the browser and shut everything off in that also. what else could be using maps?

i also shut off google now (in case that was using it)


P.S. just restarted my phone to see if i never cleared it. And the second i checked "whats using battery" , maps is at 50% (instantly) and on top of the list.
Following your thoughts and this thread. My maps is at 2% for the day. I have Location on (and GPS minus Verizon GPS on). I have set my stuff to Sandroids recommendations a few posts up.

Have you attempted to hand shut down the service using apps? I have also found that a misbehaving service doesn't always get cured by a reboot either. What does your Maps say for data, cache and so forth?
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Thats the problem. I don't think I have any services apps on. There must one or some that I don't realize. How about a battery app? is there one that tells you specifically what is using maps? And thanks by the way
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Thats the problem. I don't think I have any services apps on. There must one or some that I don't realize. How about a battery app? is there one that tells you specifically what is using maps? And thanks by the way
If you go settings=>Apps=>Running (lower tab). What does Maps show? As I have been playing with it the last few minutes. I keep killing it and finally it "dies". While its running, it appears to have a memory leak as the process grows and grows with no apparent use. I might have to puzzle over this a bit more.
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2 show up.
The first one says - PrefetcherService (Started by app)
The second one says - GoogleLocationService (started by app)

I turn google location services back on when I saw maps didn't change under battery(and because you get no weather with it off). I did check weather and all those setting are off also.
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2 show up.
The first one says - PrefetcherService (Started by app)
The second one says - GoogleLocationService (started by app)

I turn google location services back on when I saw maps didn't change under battery(and because you get no weather with it off). I did check weather and all those setting are off also.
Keep stopping the apps until it doesn't appear anymore and see what happens. Obviously this isn't the root cause you are chasing; but without seeing all the running apps/services it might a bit more time consuming.

I have both of those and the total MB used was around 190 MB and growing a little bit as I watched.
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Thanks. this is the stuff i don't understand or should i say "good at".

I did stop them both. But like you said I want to see what starting them.

Under "running" now they are both still gone. But in my Batt usage it still shows up with a non-ghosted out "X" next to it. Some of the things using battery have a ghosted "X". the only other one that doesn't is my twitter app called Plume. Maybe it's that? I don't know what the ghosted or non-ghosted X's mean.

See i told you i wasn;t good at this stuff.... thanks again
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Whoa!!!!!! i don't know if this is it or not but I did find something. I have two twitter apps. The stock HTC one i use for my work account. Just went into it and saw there was "Allow twitter to use your location" checked off. But i manually update it. i don't have it auto syncing. We'll see if that was it (doubt it)
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Thanks. this is the stuff i don't understand or should i say "good at".

I did stop them both. But like you said I want to see what starting them.

Under "running" now they are both still gone. But in my Batt usage it still shows up with a non-ghosted out "X" next to it. Some of the things using battery have a ghosted "X". the only other one that doesn't is my twitter app called Plume. Maybe it's that? I don't know what the ghosted or non-ghosted X's mean.

See i told you i wasn't good at this stuff.... thanks again
A ghosted out X is a service that cant be stopped without intent. Meaning you have to go to the Apps Tab and intentionally stop it; it keeps services and other programs from accidentally being stopped. My handcent and several others services I have show up similarly.

What I am expecting to happen is your %used should go down as the day progresses (indicating it no longer runs and its overall % remains even) as the service is terminated. I have yet to figure out what launches Maps. I was never able to find it out on my Dinc either.

I have noticed that when I launch programs that use GPS, it tends to show back up (like Google Play downloaded weather program). So maybe when the GPS is tickled, it spawns the Maps app...just spit balling.
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Whoa!!!!!! i don't know if this is it or not but I did find something. I have two twitter apps. The stock HTC one i use for my work account. Just went into it and saw there was "Allow twitter to use your location" checked off. But i manually update it. i don't have it auto syncing. We'll see if that was it (doubt it)
Possibly.

Monitor and let us know. I bet GPS use spawns the Maps app. Again, a hunch not a fact.
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That was it Bearcats!!!!!! My HTC Twitter app was the cause. Once I unchecked it my Maps was gone all day yesterday. And today it's there but only at 6% (which is probably for weather or something like that)..

I still don't think that was my 'Mall problem' but it doesn't hurt to NOT have maps using over 50% of the battery

And thanks again for helping me. I really appreciate it. You didn't have to do that. And I wouldn't of figured it out without you pushing me. Thanks again
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Old December 14th, 2012, 03:49 PM   #30 (permalink)
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That was it Bearcats!!!!!! My HTC Twitter app was the cause. Once I unchecked it my Maps was gone all day yesterday. And today it's there but only at 6% (which is probably for weather or something like that)..

I still don't think that was my 'Mall problem' but it doesn't hurt to NOT have maps using over 50% of the battery

And thanks again for helping me. I really appreciate it. You didn't have to do that. And I wouldn't of figured it out without you pushing me. Thanks again
Glad you got it worked out!

And for theory sake, if you launched something in the mall and it launched the maps in the background and the GPS couldn't get a lock...you could chew battery quick. So I think you did find your issue.

Here is to happy battery life!
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Forget it. Stupid maps came back. Number one on the list. Off to start looking again....ahhh
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Old December 18th, 2012, 11:28 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Seems like this is a problem with the phone. Maps accounts for 53% of my batt usage. The closest after that is Go Launcher at 6%. Judging by this my batt life would be awesome if this was worked out.
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Old December 19th, 2012, 12:03 AM   #33 (permalink)
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I checked mine just now, maps is at .3% for me today. I used my phone alot today since work was slow. Im around 2 1/2 hours of screen on time. I had to stick with 4g alot also since wifi at work was flakey today. Overall, Im down to 27% with 14 hours on battery.
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Old December 19th, 2012, 08:16 AM   #34 (permalink)
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If you guys don't run Maps all that often (for actual point to point navigation), you can go to Settings\Apps\All\Maps and clear the data, stop the service and then disable it.

I did this with all the Amazon garbage that was constantly running in the background.

And I dont think its a problem with the phone. I think its a problem with the linked software. I don't do Facebook or tweeting on my phone. I have those functions disabled and my Maps never runs until I use my GasBuddy app. I truely believe other apps start Maps and there is a memory leak.
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If you guys don't run Maps all that often (for actual point to point navigation), you can go to Settings\Apps\All\Maps and clear the data, stop the service and then disable it.

I did this with all the Amazon garbage that was constantly running in the background.

And I dont think its a problem with the phone. I think its a problem with the linked software. I don't do Facebook or tweeting on my phone. I have those functions disabled and my Maps never runs until I use my GasBuddy app. I truely believe other apps start Maps and there is a memory leak.
You might be right, but I don't use Facebook or Twitter, so I'm not sure what starts Maps for me. Might be my weather widget since it uses location data. I don't know.
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Old December 19th, 2012, 11:17 AM   #36 (permalink)
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You might be right, but I don't use Facebook or Twitter, so I'm not sure what starts Maps for me. Might be my weather widget since it uses location data. I don't know.
I use the HTC sense weather widget on home screen and another one called Fox19. While I would suspect they could start maps, they dont appear to have done that on mine. I have not disabled maps.

I also only have stand alone and google location on. I have verizon location off in the location/gps section.
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Old December 19th, 2012, 02:08 PM   #37 (permalink)
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It's weird because Maps doesn't even show up in my list of running apps, but it's still consuming the battery. Only at 33% now though, so I guess that is some improvement.
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I've been in meetings for a while, so very little use of my phone other than to check email. Battery is at 85% after 6 hours, which is great. But Maps is using 69%. That essentially means is Maps wasn't running I'd be around 96%. I really hope this gets figured out.
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Could it be Google Now that's causing it? edit: Google Now uses Location History from Google Maps to track where you've been, to provide more useful cards

You could try unchecking everything in Google Maps Settings -> Location settings.

I don't know if it would be causing that much battery drain, but I do know my battery's been improved since I did that.
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On a slightly different note, what is the best battery monitoring/energy saving app out there. I've looked at a couple but honest, they don't see to do anything different than what you can do yourself by selecting the energy saving options in your settings.
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On a slightly different note, what is the best battery monitoring/energy saving app out there. I've looked at a couple but honest, they don't see to do anything different than what you can do yourself by selecting the energy saving options in your settings.
Well juice defender is probably the most widely used. For monitoring I use GSAM, I find it excellent.
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I am using Longevity and it has been great for me. I have been getting some really seriously great battery life....so much better than my GNex....
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Installed Longevity. I like it. I don't know how much it will help in conserving energy, but it does give you a lot of information regarding what's hogging your energy and how much energy you have left.
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On a slightly different note, what is the best battery monitoring/energy saving app out there. I've looked at a couple but honest, they don't see to do anything different than what you can do yourself by selecting the energy saving options in your settings.

Energy saving options? Where would I find that?
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