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Old November 7th, 2009, 03:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I know the specs list 260min or so talk time but for people who have one how is the battery? Do you find you can make it through a whole day without charge or is this a phone that needs a charger at work too?

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Default Battery life-turning off apps to increase

New Eris owner. Happy with the phone functionality but battery life is a killer. Dies after full day of use limited talking. Do I need 3G turned on? Can I shut down wifi? What other apps are battery killers? Any help appreciated.
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You need a program like task killer (free) to close those programs that are running. For instance; footprints, Google talk and many other programs spontaneously start running to get a fix on your location. I have sprint hero and Sprint nav automatically start running even when I don't want it to. At this point there is no permanent fix That I know of but I'm pretty sure there will be soon
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I used mine yesterday full time and it was almost empty at the end of the day. I'm guessing I need something like a task killer app to shut down the apps I'm not using.
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Make sure Bluetooth is not on if you are not using it. I have a tendency to keep the BT on so that when I get in the car it syncs up. But it was sucking battery life something fierce.

I put the BT toggle on one of my home screens so it's easy to access.
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Yeah task killer is a must with the Eris IMO!!! Even with task killer working on my phone I get about a 5 hour charge on it.
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I drained the phone completely last night (where it shut iteslf down) left it on the charger for 10 hours. Took it off at 9am this morning and by noon it was dead again. Not sure if I have a bad battery or what?? But the battery so far (for me) is horrid. I have owned BlackBerry's for years so I don't expect much when it comes to batteries but this surprised me.
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You have to have a bad battery or phone...mine's lasting like a day and a half.
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You have to have a bad battery or phone...mine's lasting like a day and a half.
A day and a half? That's fantastic! I have absolutely no problem with charging my phone every night, in fact it's just become "common" for me to do so... so if the Eris can EASILY make it through a full day, I will be a very happy camper

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A day and a half? That's fantastic! I have absolutely no problem with charging my phone every night, in fact it's just become "common" for me to do so... so if the Eris can EASILY make it through a full day, I will be a very happy camper

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And that was with WiFi and Bluetooth enabled, but probably no more than ten or so phone calls. I'm going to start turning off WiFi even at home...it's just not that much faster than 3G. You might also look into one of the "Task Killer" apps to make sure things you have running unnecessarily are always closed down.

The owner's manual says talk time is 214 minutes and standby time is 373 hours, but I'm sure that's with nothing running and the phone in standby. But still, you should be doing better than you are. With today's smartphones I think charging every night is normal.
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Default Better / Bigger Battery?

Is there a better/bigger battery to buy? I unplugged my phone at 8:00 (100% charge) this morning, came to work. Have barely been using it - 2 calls and checked e-mail twice. Had task killer killing all sorts of shit. And I'm still at 59% at 11:13 AM. WTF. At this rate it'll be dead by 5pm and I have barely touched it.

Or is my battery just junk?
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Don't know if this will help or not, as I just got my phone today, but I'm wondering if there is a "2 or 3 full charge then discharge phase" required on the battery.

I have read that the newer batteries do not need to be "seasoned" anymore, but while looking on the web for a bigger battery option I've seen some talk of doing a 2 or 3 cycle before the replacement battery achieves full capacity.

BTW, I have yet to find a better battery anywhere online.
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Default My battery life progression...

So here is a major problem for me - I've decided to go through my phone and piece together my battery progression and activity.


8:00 - 100% - Unplugged and went to work
8:28 - ??% - Called Sister, lasted 1 minute 34 seconds
9:14 - ??% - Called mother, lasted 1 minute 08 seconds
10:11 - 79% -
11:09 - XX% - Between 11:09 and 11:53 Sent 4 Texts, Received 2
11:53 - 59% -
11:53 - XX% - Between 11:53 and 1:40 Sent 2 Texts, Received 4
1:40 - 31% -
1:47 - 28% - The time it took to write this...

I'm at work and barely using it. I showed one co-worker the internet for about a minute. Showed her the teeter game. I've also had my apps killed with the advanced task killer

WTF?
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Hey guys, head on over to the htc sprint hero forum, you'll find a buttload of info on this issue. you need to find out if your phone is sleeping. mine wasnt sleeping at first and my battery was dead by noon. now i can go a day and a half before its dead. btw, do yourself a favor and get rid of the task killer. it was keeping my phone "awake" and killing my battery.
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head on over to sthe sprint htc hero forum and you'll find out why. the eris is the same phone as the hero.
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My battery life has been pretty decent so far.

First, make sure GPS is off unless absolutely necessary (Google Maps). This will kill the battery.

Next, make sure there isn't a data-intensive widget in-use. Also, Gmail accesses in real-time, so maybe there is a way to cut the syncs down to 15 or 30 min.

For battery info, dial (*#*#4636#*#*) and press Call. This will bring up a sort of field test mode. Select Battery Information. This will tell you a lot about your battery.

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I'm posting this same thing in a few of your threads...head to the sprint htc forum and you'll get alot of your questions answered. the hero and the eris are the same phone.
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Yeah task killer is a must with the Eris IMO!!! Even with task killer working on my phone I get about a 5 hour charge on it.
Which is better...Task Killer or Advanced Task Killer?
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Task killer was causing my battery to drain faster. didable the native sms and download hancent. there is a bug that keeps the phone awake in the factory sms. task killer seems to cause this on a few phones i have seen.
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Default Eris vs. Moto Droids - What the owners are Saying.

It seems to me that more Eris owners are happier with their phones than the Motorola Owners.

I am a Eris owner after trying both phones and instantly knew the Motorola Droid, even with it cool now Google NAV, was not going to make me happy. Rather, it probably would have really frustrated me with it's choppiness and flimsy design.

So far I've had absolutely no issues with Eris. Everything works well, and compared to my G1, it is a completely different experience with Android and for the better. I compare it to an iPhone experience and functionality except with more options. I mean I wouldn't mind an iPhone of course but whether Android or Apple, they each have their limitations.

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Tried both, did not like either.
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Tried both, did not like either.
Yeah...I have now done the same thing. I hate to say it, but the "few" problems Droid Eris has may just cause me to go back to a BlackBerry...though I love the OS. I can't live with a phone whose battery won't even last one day of gentle use...has a demonic spirit that mysteriously redials numbers occasionally...and forces me to use a magnifying glass to read my email. The latter will likely be fixed someday, but until then...??
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Task killer was causing my battery to drain faster. didable the native sms and download hancent. there is a bug that keeps the phone awake in the factory sms. task killer seems to cause this on a few phones i have seen.
How do I disable the factory sms?
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Yeah...I have now done the same thing. I hate to say it, but the "few" problems Droid Eris has may just cause me to go back to a BlackBerry...though I love the OS. I can't live with a phone whose battery won't even last one day of gentle use...has a demonic spirit that mysteriously redials numbers occasionally...and forces me to use a magnifying glass to read my email. The latter will likely be fixed someday, but until then...??
Why don't you change the font size for your e-mail?
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Why don't you change the font size for your e-mail?
You can't. This is an Android problem and the internet is filled with complaints about it. It works in "Android Email" but NOT in "Gmail". The problem is with Google and Android.
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Hey guys, head on over to the htc sprint hero forum, you'll find a buttload of info on this issue. you need to find out if your phone is sleeping. mine wasnt sleeping at first and my battery was dead by noon. now i can go a day and a half before its dead. btw, do yourself a favor and get rid of the task killer. it was keeping my phone "awake" and killing my battery.
Now that I think about it...when I first got my phone I got about a day and a half with it, just a few calls and texts, but a lot of playing around with it. Then this morning I had it fully charged, loaded Advanced Task Manager and it was DEAD at 9PM. I only made two calls and three text messages. I think LTZGuy is onto something here about not using as Task Killer. Mine has just been deleted.

I'm going back to a scheme I used with my BlackBerries...uninstall the stuff I don't use and if I can't uninstall it (Android apps) there has to be a way to shut them down.
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You can't. This is an Android problem and the internet is filled with complaints about it. It works in "Android Email" but NOT in "Gmail". The problem is with Google and Android.
Sorry about that. I don't use Gmail. I use IMAP and Exchange and it allows me to select the font size.
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Now that I think about it...when I first got my phone I got about a day and a half with it, just a few calls and texts, but a lot of playing around with it. Then this morning I had it fully charged, loaded Advanced Task Manager and it was DEAD at 9PM. I only made two calls and three text messages. I think LTZGuy is onto something here about not using as Task Killer. Mine has just been deleted.

I'm going back to a scheme I used with my BlackBerries...uninstall the stuff I don't use and if I can't uninstall it (Android apps) there has to be a way to shut them down.
The other bad news is once deleted, the problem isn't fixed yet. You'll have to restore your phone. Check out the threads in the Sprint HTC hero forum. Some people swear that task killer Isn't an issue. I know for a fact with my phone it was. I was instaling one app at a time then checking the sleep time. When I installed task killer, my battery life dropped quick. I turned the phone off then back on and my awake time was 100%...and after getting rid of it...my awake time stays around 8%
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Task killer is bad.

When people are saying their battery is dead, how dead is it? 100% or just getting the 15% warning. I am trying to drain my battery to the point where it shuts off and although the home screen battery meter shows one red bar and the connect charger warning pops up its been running like this for 4 hours. Under menu -> settings -> about phone -> status it still shows 2 of 10 bars. It hasnt been on a charger for over 30 hours.
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Task killer is bad.

When people are saying their battery is dead, how dead is it? 100% or just getting the 15% warning. I am trying to drain my battery to the point where it shuts off and although the home screen battery meter shows one red bar and the connect charger warning pops up its been running like this for 4 hours. Under menu -> settings -> about phone -> status it still shows 2 of 10 bars. It hasnt been on a charger for over 30 hours.
With the other issues I'm having with this phone I'm about to "restore" it to my old BlackBerry and wait for someone to get the bus out of the Android OS and the VZW hardware before trying it again.
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The other bad news is once deleted, the problem isn't fixed yet. You'll have to restore your phone. Check out the threads in the Sprint HTC hero forum. Some people swear that task killer Isn't an issue. I know for a fact with my phone it was. I was instaling one app at a time then checking the sleep time. When I installed task killer, my battery life dropped quick. I turned the phone off then back on and my awake time was 100%...and after getting rid of it...my awake time stays around 8%
My sleep time is hovering around 55%. I just uninstalled advanced task killer (that the verizon store put on it). If it continues to drop at this rate, its been unplugged for 45 minutes and down to 91% from 1 test e-mail to the phone and one test reply, I will find a way to restore the phone.

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When people are saying their battery is dead, how dead is it? 100% or just getting the 15% warning. I am trying to drain my battery to the point where it shuts off and although the home screen battery meter shows one red bar and the connect charger warning pops up its been running like this for 4 hours. Under menu -> settings -> about phone -> status it still shows 2 of 10 bars. It hasnt been on a charger for over 30 hours.
Mine was at 14% yesterday at 5:00 when I traded the battery in for a new one under warranty. The new one started at 56% and died (shut down) at 9:00 PM.
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Eris battery did not perform well out of the gate. This may due to the twitter client and multiple IMAP, POP and Exchange accounts running in the background.

With very little talk time and intermittent browsing, I am concerned I will need to carry a second battery.
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I'm going to start turning off WiFi even at home...it's just not that much faster than 3G. .
and that would be a really dumb thing to do.....wifi radio transmitter uses a fraction of the power the cellular radio does.
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For those who have their batteries drained...do you have apps open? I know on the BBs if you leave apps open (due to multi-tasking) the battery drains.

What kind of apps/functions are being used during the day?
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I get 1.5 days of GOOD usage (youtube, internet, calls, MP3 player on train) out of my Eris and I have not even cycled the new battery yet.
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I'm at 43% "awake time" and down to 40% battery about 6 1/2 hours after taking it off the charger. GPS, Wifi and Bluetooth are all off. I have Advanced Task Manager but not Killer. This is driving me up a wall.
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I just got my new Eris last night. I unplugged from charger at 4:30am. Only lasted to around 1:30pm. Of course, I was playing with it a lot but that seems ridiculous. This is a great phone, but the battery issue is huge!
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Is there a place on the phone that shows what is running? Is there an option to shutdown apps? Or do you have to use one of these app killers or managers?
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Ugh. Day two with my Eris. I really like it, but the battery is killing me. I played with it fair amount today, but no phone calls - just email & texting, and trying to set it up with Exchange at work. Took it off the charger at 6:30 AM, had to plug it in to charge at 1:30. I don't know how you guys are getting a day of life out of yours. I don't have the weather widget running, don't have bluetooth or wifi on. Mostly just playing with configuration, reading/sending email & sms, that's it. Tried wifi for a while, turned on GPS for about ten mintues, nothing else.

I really like my Eris, but I don't know about having a phone I have to charge in the middle of every day. I'm going to give it a few more, but even though I don't really want to go back to my Curve, I may have to. Damn!
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Ugh. Day two with my Eris. I really like it, but the battery is killing me. I played with it fair amount today, but no phone calls - just email & texting, and trying to set it up with Exchange at work. Took it off the charger at 6:30 AM, had to plug it in to charge at 1:30. I don't know how you guys are getting a day of life out of yours. I don't have the weather widget running, don't have bluetooth or wifi on. Mostly just playing with configuration, reading/sending email & sms, that's it. Tried wifi for a while, turned on GPS for about ten mintues, nothing else.

I really like my Eris, but I don't know about having a phone I have to charge in the middle of every day. I'm going to give it a few more, but even though I don't really want to go back to my Curve, I may have to. Damn!
That sounds almost exactly like my day. I was just trying out the phone, never really leaving things on too long. I am in your shoes, I really don't want to go back to my Curve!
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The batter is very Poor. I am not happy
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The batter is very Poor. I am not happy
Yup. I just exchanged mine for the droid under the 30 day guarantee.
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Posted this on another forum:

Seidio carries a 1750 mAh battery that is compatible (according to their website) with: For use with HTC TouchPro2/HTC Hero/HTC Tilt II.

It works in conjunction with your current battery door. Not sure if this is compatible with the Eris, but I'm sure it's only a matter of time before they develop one if not.

I know lots of BlackBerry users who have used batteries from this company, and they're all happy.

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Has anybody done any testing to see if using Wifi where available helps with battery life? I'm wondering what data goes over Wifi versus the radio: gmail syncing, etc?

As for the higher mAh batteries -well, I would think a 1750 battery would be great - but for $50? Ouch. Seems a little steep.
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Here's what I can tell you about my battery:
- Woke up at 5:15, unplugged phone from charger
- At 6:45, I checked the phone and it was already at 80% with ZERO usage
- My awake time is about 23%, so it's not a messaging problem
- I don't have bluetooth or WIFI on

WTF???

This is really an issue for me. Going to the Verizon store today to get a replacement battery. Any thoughts or suggestions?

Otherwise, I LOVE the Eris. One other small complaint - the vibration on the phone is very hard to feel, especially when in the holster.
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Ok, here are my battery issues. I charged all night after a complete discharge. I unplugged at 4:30am. All I did was watched it boot, and made sure I put it to sleep. At 5:00am it was down to 89%!! What! I absolutely did nothing. I think it said it had "awake time" of 8 minutes??? I wonder if it is something on initial boot after a charge. Yesterday, I got 6 more hours out if by turning off a few things and was able to get "awake time" down to like 10%. I am recharging with phone on and see if topping it off and starting over helps.
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Ok, here are my battery issues. I charged all night after a complete discharge. I unplugged at 4:30am. All I did was watched it boot, and made sure I put it to sleep. At 5:00am it was down to 89%!! What! I absolutely did nothing. I think it said it had "awake time" of 8 minutes??? I wonder if it is something on initial boot after a charge. Yesterday, I got 6 more hours out if by turning off a few things and was able to get "awake time" down to like 10%. I am recharging with phone on and see if topping it off and starting over helps.
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Here's what I can tell you about my battery:
- Woke up at 5:15, unplugged phone from charger
- At 6:45, I checked the phone and it was already at 80% with ZERO usage
- My awake time is about 23%, so it's not a messaging problem
- I don't have bluetooth or WIFI on

WTF???

This is really an issue for me. Going to the Verizon store today to get a replacement battery. Any thoughts or suggestions?

Otherwise, I LOVE the Eris. One other small complaint - the vibration on the phone is very hard to feel, especially when in the holster.
Advanced Task Killer was killing my battery. I would be in the same boat as you guys. After deleting it (and using no task killer) my batter life has improved dramatically. Been unplugged for an hour and a half right now and still at 100%. Even took a phone call and sent a text message.

Beware though - watching three episodes of the office on m.nbc.com and some SNL killed my battery yesterday at work haha.

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Advanced Task Killer was killing my battery. I would be in the same boat as you guys. After deleting it (and using no task killer) my batter life has improved dramatically. Been unplugged for an hour and a half right now and still at 100%. Even took a phone call and sent a text message.

Beware though - watching three episodes of the office on m.nbc.com and some SNL killed my battery yesterday at work haha.

Andrew
I see you did get a new battery at one point? Did that impact it at all? Are you doing anything special like turning off notifications or not using google data sync? I am not using any task killer so that isn't my issue. How are you charging your phone? Do you let it completely die and then recharge?
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Advanced Task Killer was killing my battery. I would be in the same boat as you guys. After deleting it (and using no task killer) my batter life has improved dramatically. Been unplugged for an hour and a half right now and still at 100%. Even took a phone call and sent a text message.
I second this...I installed ATK almost immediately after getting my Eris. I was worried about running apps and not being able to kill them. My battery life was horrendous. I read some other posts in the forum about Task Killer and uninstalled it. My battery life has almost tripled since then. I still have to charge it every night when I mess with it alot but at least I can make it through the day now.
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I see you did get a new battery at one point? Did that impact it at all? Are you doing anything special like turning off notifications or not using google data sync? I am not using any task killer so that isn't my issue. How are you charging your phone? Do you let it completely die and then recharge?

I have notifications on. It syncs with my gmail contacts almost immediately (I am amazed I can delete someone on there and it delete them on my phone) and it syncs with facebook once a day.

As for all the apps/programs I'm using... I use the browser, facebook app, text messaging, HI AIM (once in a while), Pandora, and a little bit of google maps and a little bit of Gmail. I check my hotmail through the browser unless I need to download an attachment since the HTC app doesn't update immediately.
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