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Old September 8th, 2010, 08:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Is the Eris at end of life as far as OS upgrades? I have 2.1 now and am wondering if I will ever see 2.2.

2.2 introduced support for Exchange policies and I would like to see that support added to my phone.

A friend with an Incredible got an update to 2.2 on Verizon, but so far my Eris remains at 2.1.

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2.1 will be the last official update. If you want 2.2, your going to have to root. There are some unoffical 2.2 ROMs.
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After HTC refused to fix a problem their MR4 update created, I filed a BBB report--after trying 3 other support reps. The one who responded to my BBB filing said that HTC has no intention of releasing any more updates for the Eris--they know there are more bugs to fix and features that are desired, but they've decided it's not worth the effort.
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Thanks guys, I guess I will need to read up on rooting and give that a try. I was worried about doing that if it was going to prevent my phone from getting future updates, but it sounds like that won't happen no matter what. I read in one thread that rooting was easier these days. Can anyone point me to an instruction set for the Eris? If I root will I lose the HTC keyboard? That is the one thing I would really hate to lose. Compared to my Motorola, the HTC on screen keyboard is so much better.
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This is the tutorial I used to root my brothers Eris:

Universal Eris Root for Dummies!

It was my first time rooting a phone and I had no problems.

He's running KaosFroyo V30 and loves his phone again!
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They haven't said they won't, but I don't think it will happen.
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They haven't said they won't, but I don't think it will happen.
I think it was confirmed a while back that they had officially decided that the Eris will never get 2.2.
Was the Eris even out for a year? If it was, it can't have been much over a year.
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I think it was confirmed a while back that they had officially decided that the Eris will never get 2.2.
Was the Eris even out for a year? If it was, it can't have been much over a year.

The Eris still hasn't been out for a year...won't have been till this November.
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I just used the Universal 1 Click Eris App Apk. So easy I can't believe I waited so long. I paid for setCPU to overclock the CPU. Was hoping for better speeds than 520 but that is all I got out of it. Nice to know I could slow it down with profiles when the screen is off too, that should extend my battery life.

My SLINGBOX application works great now.
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I just used the Universal 1 Click Eris App Apk. So easy I can't believe I waited so long. I paid for setCPU to overclock the CPU. Was hoping for better speeds than 520 but that is all I got out of it. Nice to know I could slow it down with profiles when the screen is off too, that should extend my battery life.

My SLINGBOX application works great now.
Oooo, you shouldn't have paid for it. Most ROMs have it incorporated into it.

You may need to flash a kernel? I dunno. I know you need to for most other devices.
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It wasn't until I started searching around more that I found free versions, still it was only $1.99 and I am not opposed to supporting someone's efforts with such a minimal fee.

I only rooted my existing image and did not load a new ROM, this method worked well for me as I did not need to set up my applications again.

I would however like to know if anyone else is getting better speeds out of a rooted Eris.
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710 MHz is a obtainable by every Eris with some getting up as high as 806 or higher. You'll need a new kernel to go over the stock 528 MHz though. Just make a nand backup and try out some custom roms. xtrROM (if you use LauncherPro) and xtrSENSE (if you like the sense ui) are both good.

Head over to XDA and check out what's available.

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The author asked people to stop doing that actually. It's still free for XDA members though.
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just like the Incredible will never see 3.0..officially
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Wow, 710 would be great, I wonder how hot that makes the phone witht he CPU operating so fast. If I do a Nandroid backup (which I did after rooting) will that preserve my applications and settings and let me restore those to the newly imaged phone?
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I am just now checking out xtraSense and it woudl apper that you lose the HTC keyboard that lets you hold down a key to get the alternate characters. Is there a way to get that back? That is the single most feature I love about this phone compared to my work phone which is a Moto Droid.
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I think it was confirmed a while back that they had officially decided that the Eris will never get 2.2.
Was the Eris even out for a year? If it was, it can't have been much over a year.
I believe that all HTC has said is that all phones released in 2010 should get a 2.2 update. They never said that phones released in 2009 will not, but I think that we can read between the lines that they will not.

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710 MHz is a obtainable by every Eris with some getting up as high as 806 or higher.
710 MHz for practically every Eris, but I have read posts by two people who have problems with 710 MHz. In fact, this has caused problems for them installing some ROMs which are overclocked by default to 710 MHz. One posted instructions that he must follow to manually clock down the ROM before first boot after the flash.
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I am just now checking out xtraSense and it woudl apper that you lose the HTC keyboard that lets you hold down a key to get the alternate characters. Is there a way to get that back? That is the single most feature I love about this phone compared to my work phone which is a Moto Droid.
In any text input field, long press and it will pop up a menu that lets you toggle back and forth between the keyboards. Just long press, choose "Input method" and choose "Touch Input" (that is the HTC keyboard). It exists in both xtrSense and xtrROM.
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I am wondering if there is a way to export that keyboard from my Eris so I can also use it on my Droid?
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When I had an Eris, It would do just below 767. At 767 it would lock up.

Here's something that might help: Confirmed: HTC Droid Eris will not get Froyo - Computerworld Blogs
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Heh, I just saw that Computerworld article and came right here to post.
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I am wondering if there is a way to export that keyboard from my Eris so I can also use it on my Droid?
HTC IME Mod Keyboard with Voice Input (v27, June 08, 2010) - xda-developers

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Just installed it on my Droid, I LOVE IT!!! Thanks so much for telling me where to find it. Works great and makes the Droid usable.
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Root is the best thing I ever did. Running KaosFroyo. No lag, no sense UI. love it.
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I rooted mine with KaosFroyo too. Only problems I have are:

1. No live wallpapers will run on it.
2. Can't find a widget the same as stock Clock and Weather
3. Quick Profiles does a ForceClose when I try to set any volume controls.
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I rooted mine with KaosFroyo too. Only problems I have are:

1. No live wallpapers will run on it.
2. Can't find a widget the same as stock Clock and Weather
3. Quick Profiles does a ForceClose when I try to set any volume controls.
1. Live wallpapers are hit and miss with the Eris, I think it depends on the screen resolution to run properly. I have only ever been able to get one to work.

2. Beautiful Widgets.

3. Sorry, don't know about that one.
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beautiful widgets is close to the HTC one, but Fancy widget is a straight clone. so much that HTC ordered them to stop distributing it. but you can still find the apk somewhere online.
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Check out the Nonsensikal ROM. CPU Runs at 710 and live wallpapers work on it just fine. The developer did a very good job and its stable.

And if you did a Nandroid backup you can restore your old Sense ROM but it will be rooted.
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Man I love these forums. Thanks for the info guys.
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Found a copy of Fancy Widget, exactly what I wanted thanks!

I don't fully understand the whole ROM structure. I am currently running KaosFroyo, can I load Nonsensikal on top of that or is it a replacement? The live wallpapers aren't a really big deal for me. I did not use them before I rooted because they killed the battery, but I am now getting better battery life thanks to throttling the CPU down when the screen is off so I wanted to give them a try.
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Although I am generally happy with the ERIS....I am right on the edge of jumping over the root cliff based on the comments from most here on how it improves the phone.....will overclocking increase the download/browsing speed or just speed up the internal workings of the phone itself.
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Found a copy of Fancy Widget, exactly what I wanted thanks!

I don't fully understand the whole ROM structure. I am currently running KaosFroyo, can I load Nonsensikal on top of that or is it a replacement? The live wallpapers aren't a really big deal for me. I did not use them before I rooted because they killed the battery, but I am now getting better battery life thanks to throttling the CPU down when the screen is off so I wanted to give them a try.
1.) Download the Nonsensikal ROM to your SD card.

2.) Boot into Amons Recovery. At that point, make a choice or not if you want to do a Nandroid backup of your KaosFroyo. It's not necessary though only if you want to preserver your settings. I assume you backed up your HTC ROM after you first rooted.

3.) Do a wipe

4.) Flash the new ROM and reboot.
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Although I am generally happy with the ERIS....I am right on the edge of jumping over the root cliff based on the comments from most here on how it improves the phone.....will overclocking increase the download/browsing speed or just speed up the internal workings of the phone itself.
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Although the overclocking usually comes built into the ROMS.

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prj, that answers my question. It is a replacement for KaosFroyo and not something that gets added on top of it like the radio upgrade.

I wasn't very keen on setting the whole phone up again but having looked at the screen shots of Nonsensikal I think I will give it a try. Thanks for the suggestion.
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I loaded up nonsensikal this morning. I did not care for it. I guess it uses Launcher2 for running apps? It only had 3 screens where with Froyo I have five. Luckily I had done a backup and switching back was super easy.
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I loaded up nonsensikal this morning. I did not care for it. I guess it uses Launcher2 for running apps? It only had 3 screens where with Froyo I have five. Luckily I had done a backup and switching back was super easy.
You can configure that in the Launcher Pro settings. I think you can go up to 7.
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As with all things Android, I think what is best is what you are comfortable with from an aesthetic view point. I don't care for the LauncherPro 4 icons at the bottom of the screen. I really like having the little dots to show which screen I am on and to use for navigation instead of swiping.

Now that I have fancy widget for my time/weather and I just found Simple SMS Widget for my messaging I am a happy camper and don't think I will be doing any more playing around with ROMs until the next release of Android comes out.

I greatly appreciate all the sharing that has been done here. Even though I may not have decided on using Nonsensikal I am glad I gave it a try for comparison.
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As with all things Android, I think what is best is what you are comfortable with from an aesthetic view point. I don't care for the LauncherPro 4 icons at the bottom of the screen. I really like having the little dots to show which screen I am on and to use for navigation instead of swiping.
you can have those little dots on launcher pro too. you can pretty much make it look exactly like ADW.
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you can have those little dots on launcher pro too. you can pretty much make it look exactly like ADW.
Or you can just install ADW as well.
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That's no fun.
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I wanted to make sure I wasn't just being stubborn and reloaded Nonsensikal. I still didn't care for LauncherPro so I did load up ADW and uninstalled LauncherPro.

I then repeated my tests and found that Live Wallpapers will preview fine but will not load. Also my Quick Profiles still FCs whenever you set a volume control in it. I'll definitely have to contact the author about that and see if they can offer any suggestions.

So besides the default of LauncherPro, does anyone have a comparison of Nonsensikal VS KaosFroyo? What are the advantages and disadvantages to these ROMs? Frankly I don't see much difference.
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I found one show stopper for me. The Nonsensikal keyboard isn't the HTC keyboard that allows long press of letters for alternate characters. I installed the HTC keyboard APK file that some kind soul extracted but it won't apply in the Nonsensikal image. I know the APK is good since I have used it on my work Motorola Droid phone. I've made a backup of my Nonsensikal image but am now restoring my KaosFroyo.
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Unfortunately, no 2.2 for the Eris. However, like it has been mentioned, you can flash a 2.2 ROM. I've been running 2.2 for months now.

Take a visit to the links on my sig; they'll help you run 2.2 if you want to take the leap.
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I found one show stopper for me. The Nonsensikal keyboard isn't the HTC keyboard that allows long press of letters for alternate characters. I installed the HTC keyboard APK file that some kind soul extracted but it won't apply in the Nonsensikal image. I know the APK is good since I have used it on my work Motorola Droid phone. I've made a backup of my Nonsensikal image but am now restoring my KaosFroyo.
Funny, I don't like the HTC keyboard, so it's presence as the only kb always bugs me.

As for the HTC_IME, the keyboard that works on your Droid will not work on the Eris because there is a different screen resolution. There is an HT_IME Lo Res that works with rooted Erises around somewhere; search around and you should find it. You may actually see somebody reference it in the nonsensikal thread on xda-developers.
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First link in google search for HT_IME Lo Res yielded a result. I will DL it and reflash back to my saved image and give it a try for a full comparison. Still would like to know what the differences are between KaosFroyo and Nonsensikal Froyo. Neither seems to let me use the aquarium live wallpaper I downloaded, though each will preview it fine.
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Quick question...after reading this topic, I took the plunge and decided to root my phone, and now I'm running KaosFroyo, which suddenly makes my Eris feel like a new phone! Won't have to spend 6 bills trying to buy a DroidX or Incredible...(I'll save that Gingerbread phones).

One thing I liked about the HTC contacts though, was that it allowed me to connect my friends to their facebook accounts, so that their pictures would show up. Is this possible under KaosFroyo?

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Quick question...after reading this topic, I took the plunge and decided to root my phone, and now I'm running KaosFroyo, which suddenly makes my Eris feel like a new phone! Won't have to spend 6 bills trying to buy a DroidX or Incredible...(I'll save that Gingerbread phones).

One thing I liked about the HTC contacts though, was that it allowed me to connect my friends to their facebook accounts, so that their pictures would show up. Is this possible under KaosFroyo?

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You should be able to do that with the official Facebook app. With vanilla Android like KF, it unlocks the ability of that app to sync with your contacts.

After that, and the sync, you can then edit any friend's contact whose FB photo is not showing and choose the FB photo as the contact photo.
Facebook app, menu, settings, sync contacts.
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Question for those of you who are running 2.2...
Are you able to install Adobe Flash Player?
It's the only reason I would want to go to 2.2, so if doesn't work, meh.
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Question for those of you who are running 2.2...
Are you able to install Adobe Flash Player?
It's the only reason I would want to go to 2.2, so if doesn't work, meh.
As far as i know its possible to install it, but it doesnt work too great. Like if you try to watch a youtube video on the normal site it will skip alot and be pretty much unwatchable. Games are iffy.
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