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Old November 18th, 2009, 08:41 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Oh Grimster, no one is missing the point here and everyone "understands" whats going on, if it works for you then have at it, but don't tell everyone they are not intelligent for choosing not to do as you do!
No, alot of people that posted in this thread really did not understand.

BTW, Im over 2 days of use now and my battery is 60%

This argument is over and wildgoose and I have won. Turning Mobile Network on only when needed TRIPLES your battery life or MORE.

At this point it just seems CRAZY to leave it on all the time for no reason (and there really is NO good reason to leave it on).

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No, alot of people that posted in this thread really did not understand..
Sorry, but not agreeing with you does not mean that people don't understand.

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BTW, Im over 2 days of use now and my battery is 60%
We get it. We really do understand, and have all along, that what you suggest WILL reduce battery drain. Again, just because someone doesn't agree with your point doesn't mean that they don't understand it.

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This argument is over and wildgoose and I have won. Turning Mobile Network on only when needed TRIPLES your battery life or MORE..
LOL, keep thinking that you've "won". I'm not sure what you thought you were going to "win".

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At this point it just seems CRAZY to leave it on all the time for no reason (and there really is NO good reason to leave it on).
I will give you one good reason: email. I use my phone for business. I am often not in the office for business. If I were to shut off my mobile network, I would not receive emails until I turned it back on to check.

Could I theoretically turn it on every 15 minutes, check my mail, reply, then turn it off? Maybe. But first, I will admit that I am not disciplined enough to do that and second, I might miss something that's time sensitive. And that's just not worth it.

So one good reason, one of many.

I'm really trying to be civil here, but I just cannot understand why you cannot take another person's point of view? Some people WANT that stuff on. Can't you understand it?
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Needsdecaf... you want to know when you get time sensitive emails?.. YOU DONT UNDERSTAND TECHNOLOGY!!!!!!!!!

Just turn your mobile network off... anytime you want to check your email, just find a computer with a web browser or the person who emailed you

BTW, Im over 2 days of use now and my battery is 60%
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needsdecaf... You want to know when you get time sensitive emails?.. You dont understand technology!!!!!!!!!

Just turn your mobile network off... Anytime you want to check your email, just find a computer with a web browser or the person who emailed you

btw, im over 2 days of use now and my battery is 60%
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You may have already answered this but, did you do the sms fix? Go to menu>settings>about phone>status. what is your awake time?
Could you tell me what the SMS Fix is that you mention?

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This might be the stupidest thread I've ever read on the Internet.
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Needsdecaf... you want to know when you get time sensitive emails?.. YOU DONT UNDERSTAND TECHNOLOGY!!!!!!!!!

Just turn your mobile network off... anytime you want to check your email, just find a computer with a web browser or the person who emailed you

BTW, Im over 2 days of use now and my battery is 60%

Exactly... And if you want to send an email, just find a piece of paper, a pencil and a homing pigeon.
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Look at the stickied battery life thread for more info.
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Grimster, what you do not have that most other people do, is a reason to have a phone capable of instantaneously delivering emails. For this to be work, the mobile network must be on.

Unfortunately, you fail to see this, and continue to debate a moot point by claiming you have 'figured it out' by shutting off half the phone.

Grimster, you will have a tough life on these forums with your misguided opinions.
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Just turn your mobile network off... anytime you want to check your email, just find a computer with a web browser or the person who emailed you
Now that's just about the dumbest thing I've ever read on a smartphone forum, ever, thanks for the laugh C4!!!! That's good stuff!!
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No, alot of people that posted in this thread really did not understand.

BTW, Im over 2 days of use now and my battery is 60%

This argument is over and wildgoose and I have won. Turning Mobile Network on only when needed TRIPLES your battery life or MORE.

At this point it just seems CRAZY to leave it on all the time for no reason (and there really is NO good reason to leave it on).
Grimster,

I'm glad you think you are so intelligent, but what you are saying makes NO SENSE. Purchasing a phone that has PUSH E-MAIL capabilities and then turning off the radio every few minutes is absolutely idiotic. Android phones with the Google experience are marketed to people as having push gmail - and you are telling them they are stupid for wanting to use this feature? Not sure whats going on in your mind, but you cannot use push features and have the mobile network off. Come on buddy, for someone who knows so much, how can you know so little?
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Needsdecaf... you want to know when you get time sensitive emails?.. YOU DONT UNDERSTAND TECHNOLOGY!!!!!!!!!

Just turn your mobile network off... anytime you want to check your email, just find a computer with a web browser or the person who emailed you

BTW, Im over 2 days of use now and my battery is 60%

I've got you beat! My battery has lasted for 14 days and I project that it will last for at least another month and it is still at 100%. I simply took it out of the phone. If the phone doesn't have a battery in it then there is no battery problem, right? I tell you, I love having this phone. It makes it a little hard to get email or phone calls, but I have given out every pay phone number that I pass to and from work so that people can call them systematically to get in touch with me. If someone needs to email me I just stop by one of the 5 computer stores on my way and check my gmail account real quick. Most people I know don't really use text messages either, they just yell at me from a window as I go by. This phone is great! Everyone that keeps the battery in their phone just doesn't get it. You guys don't understand at all. Take your battery out and you will REALLY see how long it can last. This is the best!
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Grimster, what you do not have that most other people do, is a reason to have a phone capable of instantaneously delivering emails. For this to be work, the mobile network must be on.

Unfortunately, you fail to see this, and continue to debate a moot point by claiming you have 'figured it out' by shutting off half the phone.

Grimster, you will have a tough life on these forums with your misguided opinions.
Guess what...NOBODY gives a crap about getting emails instanty. This is NOT a buisness phone. Get a BB if you want instant emails. Welcome to 2009, we use TXT msgs these days pops...You have seriously been misguided to buy this phone for buisness use. SIMPLY TOO FUNNY! LOLz! IMO you are lying about your need for instant emails for "business" use, you are just tring to cherry picking the ONLY feature that needs Mobile Network on all the time but you fail to realize NOBODY cares about instant emails.

Ill say it again, there is NO realistic reason to leave Mobile Network enabled on this phone. This is NOT a buisness phone and nobody cares about instant emails. Welcome to 2009 and TXT msgs.
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Guess what...NOBODY gives a crap about getting emails instanty. This is NOT a buisness phone. Get a BB if you want instant emails. Welcome to 2009, we use TXT msgs these days pops...You have seriously been misguided to buy this phone for buisness use. SIMPLY TOO FUNNY! LOLz! IMO you are lying about your need for instant emails for "business" use, you are just tring to cherry picking the ONLY feature that needs Mobile Network on all the time but you fail to realize NOBODY cares about instant emails.

Ill say it again, there is NO realistic reason to leave Mobile Network enabled on this phone. This is NOT a buisness phone and nobody cares about instant emails. Welcome to 2009 and TXT msgs.
I am getting a full day out of my battery, I don't have issues. However, you are clearly an idiot. I am not going to waste anymore time typing to you. You have been misguided by yourself into believing that you are intelligent.Do me a favor, and write Google an e-mail about how they are idiots for selling phones with push Gmail. This is 2009, we use text messages pops!
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Guess what...NOBODY gives a crap about getting emails instanty. This is NOT a buisness phone. Get a BB if you want instant emails. Welcome to 2009, we use TXT msgs these days pops...You have seriously been misguided to buy this phone for buisness use. SIMPLY TOO FUNNY! LOLz! IMO you are lying about your need for instant emails for "business" use, you are just tring to cherry picking the ONLY feature that needs Mobile Network on all the time but you fail to realize NOBODY cares about instant emails.

Ill say it again, there is NO realistic reason to leave Mobile Network enabled on this phone. This is NOT a buisness phone and nobody cares about instant emails. Welcome to 2009 and TXT msgs.

Ok, I have to say it after this post. You are without a doubt the biggest idiot I have every seen in my entire life. Nobody cares about instant email? The vast majority of smart phone users have them for this reason. Why in the hell do you think BlackBerry is so freak'n popular? Hmmm, could it be email? YES!!!!!!!!! Just because you are a little kid that doesn't actually need it, doesn't mean that the rest of us are. Grow up and realize that people use smartphones for different reasons. Just because you don't need/want a feature doesn't mean that it is the same for everyone else. Now, please for the love of everything holy just crawl back under your rock of idiocy and leave the rest of us alone.
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I've got you beat! My battery has lasted for 14 days and I project that it will last for at least another month and it is still at 100%. I simply took it out of the phone. If the phone doesn't have a battery in it then there is no battery problem, right? I tell you, I love having this phone. It makes it a little hard to get email or phone calls, but I have given out every pay phone number that I pass to and from work so that people can call them systematically to get in touch with me. If someone needs to email me I just stop by one of the 5 computer stores on my way and check my gmail account real quick. Most people I know don't really use text messages either, they just yell at me from a window as I go by. This phone is great! Everyone that keeps the battery in their phone just doesn't get it. You guys don't understand at all. Take your battery out and you will REALLY see how long it can last. This is the best!
I got you and Grimster beat... My phone is still at 100%, the battery is still in, and I have all of the features turned on including wifi, gps, and bluetooth. What's my secret you ask?



Extension cords.

Seriously, I went out and bought 100 100' long extension cords and connected them all together. Now I can travel in a 10,000 foot radius with all the power and convenience of a smartphone.
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I got you and Grimster beat... My phone is still at 100%, the battery is still in, and I have all of the features turned on including wifi, gps, and bluetooth. What's my secret you ask?



Extension cords.

Seriously, I went out and bought 100 100' long extension cords and connected them all together. Now I can travel in a 10,000 foot radius with all the power and convenience of a smartphone.
GENIUS! PURE GENIUS!

Did you pick those up at home depot or lowes? Did they have them all in the same color? I would hate to have my 10,000 foot cord not match. That would be SO tacky. Oh, I'll need to buy more than one set. What would people think if my extension cord didn't match my phone case? That would be embarrassing.

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You guys can talk smack all you want. Deep down inside you KNOW I am correct.

The truth of the matter is NOBODY bought this phone for business use. You would have to be a FOOL to do so.

Some of your posts actually boil down to psychology....people want to think they are "important". Ill let you guys in on a secret, if the company you work for does not give you a BB to use then you are not important.

I find it very funny people will sacrifice so much battery power for their personal psychological satisfaction. lolz
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You guys can talk smack all you want. Deep down inside you KNOW I am correct.

The truth of the matter is NOBODY bought this phone for business use. You would have to be a FOOL to do so.

Some of your posts actually boil down to physiology....people want to think they are "important". Ill let you guys in on a secret, if the company you work for does not give you a BB to use then you are not important.

I find it very funny people will sacrifice so much battery power for their personal physiological satisfaction. lolz
Ok, first off the word is psychology. It is the study of the way the mind functions and people's behavior. I'm surprised your psychologist didn't explain this. Physiology is the study of living systems, as in biology. They are actually pretty different. For such an "educated" person that is a really silly mistake. Especially when you are trying to insult others.

Second, the actual truth of the matter is that you really just don't have a clue. Once AGAIN I will say to you what many have already said. Maybe repetition will somehow get it through that incredibly thick skull (Hey! Psychology and physiology.) of yours. It doesn't matter why anyone bought this phone. None of us want to turn off one of the main functions of the phone. Some of us do use these for business. You can call me a fool all you want. I'm a well paid and happy fool. My company did buy me a blackberry and I still have it. I prefer Android and I will use this instead. It is my preference and my option to do so.

This all breaks down (on every forum I see you) to the fact that you have somehow come to the conclusion that you are smarter than everyone else around you. You may have good reason to. I personally don't see it, with some of the things you say, but that is my opinion. You can troll on all day long about how educated and superior you are to the rest of us mere mortals and if it makes you feel better about living in your mom's basement then I am happy for you. At the end of the day, none of us are going to turn off the mobile network because we don't want to. We like/need/want (take your pick) to get information quickly or to communicate via other methods more rapidly. I don't need to have my phone run for more 5 or 6 hours without a charge. I have an office, home and car that all contain electricity and I have access to them all the time. If I really need more time I can buy a second battery.

With all that said, I want you to understand that I mean this with the utmost honesty and sincerity when I inform you that you are coming across like a total and complete ass in this thread. I know that I will not ever take anything you say seriously and I can't imagine that too many others will either after reading this. If you actually want to stay on any forum and be apart of the community, stop being rude and obnoxious.
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This might be the stupidest thread I've ever read on the Internet.
LOL....I so agree, I never read a thread on any forum this ridiculous but I'm still reading it for entertainment.
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Ok, first off the word is psychology.
oooo you cought my auto-spell checker incorrectly fill in the word. You must feel proud.
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oooo you cought my auto-spell checker incorrectly fill in the word. You must feel proud.
Actually, since you don't appear to use spell check for any other post (including this one) I really figured you didn't know the difference.
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also it is suggested that if you keep your battery cool it will last longer. i suggest we all go and buy a little igloo cooler and some ice packs to help with this known and important issue.
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Actually, since you don't appear to use spell check for any other post (including this one) I really figured you didn't know the difference.
My posts in this thread have come from three difference devices one of them a device that autofills in your words via predictions.
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My posts in this thread have come from three difference devices one of them a device that autofills in your words via predictions.
Oh, so the device knows you well enough to predict that you don't know the difference? I understand now. That is pretty advanced.
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Whatever this debate has been won by wildgoose and I. Im sorry you feel bitter about it.
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You guys can talk smack all you want. Deep down inside you KNOW I am correct.

The truth of the matter is NOBODY bought this phone for business use. You would have to be a FOOL to do so.

Some of your posts actually boil down to psychology....people want to think they are "important". Ill let you guys in on a secret, if the company you work for does not give you a BB to use then you are not important.

I find it very funny people will sacrifice so much battery power for their personal psychological satisfaction. lolz
I own my own consulting business. I have no need for enterprise email, and Blackberry's web experience sucks.

Last night I was at a business networking event, and I met some people who's company I was unfamiliar with. So under the pretense of "checking email", as everyone else was doing with their blackberries, I stepped aside and looked up the company very quickly. Voila, unimformed to informed in about 25 seconds. With a Blackberry, I'd still be looking it up.

I was also able to email people on the spot some articles of interest and company profiles that I had stored on my phone. They had to wait a while, though, as I had to turn my network on.

Now.....

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Whatever this debate has been won by wildgoose and I. Im sorry you feel bitter about it.
Last time I checked, a debate did not consist of one lone person shouting in an empty room to themself.
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Whatever this debate has been won by wildgoose and I. Im sorry you feel bitter about it.
Bitter? I'm not bitter in any way. I never once had any issue with you turning of the mobile network on YOUR phone. I don't care what you do with your phone. It is, after all, your phone. The thing that I have tried, repeatedly, to point out is that not everyone is in the same boat as you and won't be turning off the mobile network. Short simple and sweet.

The other main thing that I was trying to get you to understand is that there is a problem with your narrow view of the world and all the absolutes that you stated in this thread. Your use of "nobody" and "everybody" is pretty immature and short sighted. Just because you don't do it or a bunch of people you know don't do it, has no real baring on the rest of the world.

With regards to whatever it is that you believe you have won......I guess I should tell you to enjoy whatever prize you received.
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...Ill say it again, there is NO realistic reason to leave Mobile Network enabled on this phone. This is NOT a buisness phone and nobody cares about instant emails. Welcome to 2009 and TXT msgs.
Actually TXT msgs are so 1998, but that's ok that you just caught on to it.
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So you are using the internet on the device(s) therefore not listening to yourself to leave the mobile network off. OK I understand.
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But, in both locations you can keep it on the charger so it doesn't drain as it is. I keep the USB cable with me at all times so at work I can just connect to my PC and play music
Yes that would work. But, I feel that the battery would last longer if I am not charging it all the time. With these devices it's probably not that big of a deal, since you'll probably get a new device by the time the battery is about to go. But I want to have the flexibility of deciding when I want to upgrade my device, so the longer the usable battery life, the better.

Anyway, this discussion seems to be getting out of hand.

For people who needs to, or wants to be notified instantly of email and other forms of communication besides voice/sms, they have to leave mobile network on all the time. But for people who are upset about battery life, and for people who don't need to be notified of email instantly, using internet on demand is a good option.

I think one reason this topic is so controversial is, most people who are on the data plan right now, and pay the premium for it, falls into the first category. But I am pretty sure that as time goes by, and more people joins the data plan, and it gets cheaper (just like internet access, remember dsl use to cost $50?), a lot more people will be in the 2nd category. (they may not even know or care about the 2nd category, but their usage pattern is in the 2nd category).

Imagine this scenario 5 years down the road:

A customer walks into a store, checking out the latest phone. Data plan costs $10 extra for the whole family, so a lot more people are signing up for it just to be able to access internet anywhere.

Customer a: "So, how long does the battery last on these devices?"

Sales person: "oh, plenty. If you turn on this option "use internet on demand", it'll probably last a week. If you leave the option off, you'll always be on the internet, be notified instantly of email and communications, it'll last the whole day without a problem"

You can bet that a lot more people than we have now on the data plan will simply choose the on demand option.

It's all about the audience. Right now, people who pay for data plan are the ones who really need it, so using it on demand just doesn't make sense for them. But it probably won't be like this forever. When most of the population are on the data plan (because it doesn't cost that much extra), the default on the phone might even be to use it on demand. After all, you don't want the majority of your customers to call you and ask "why the hell is my battery life so bad"?

Of course, another alternative is we'll have nuclear powered batteries by then and the whole issue will be moot.
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Yes that would work. But, I feel that the battery would last longer if I am not charging it all the time. With these devices it's probably not that big of a deal, since you'll probably get a new device by the time the battery is about to go. But I want to have the flexibility of deciding when I want to upgrade my device, so the longer the usable battery life, the better.

Anyway, this discussion seems to be getting out of hand.

For people who needs to, or wants to be notified instantly of email and other forms of communication besides voice/sms, they have to leave mobile network on all the time. But for people who are upset about battery life, and for people who don't need to be notified of email instantly, using internet on demand is a good option.

I think one reason this topic is so controversial is, most people who are on the data plan right now, and pay the premium for it, falls into the first category. But I am pretty sure that as time goes by, and more people joins the data plan, and it gets cheaper (just like internet access, remember dsl use to cost $50?), a lot more people will be in the 2nd category. (they may not even know or care about the 2nd category, but their usage pattern is in the 2nd category).

Imagine this scenario 5 years down the road:

A customer walks into a store, checking out the latest phone. Data plan costs $10 extra for the whole family, so a lot more people are signing up for it just to be able to access internet anywhere.

Customer a: "So, how long does the battery last on these devices?"

Sales person: "oh, plenty. If you turn on this option "use internet on demand", it'll probably last a week. If you leave the option off, you'll always be on the internet, be notified instantly of email and communications, it'll last the whole day without a problem"

You can bet that a lot more people than we have now on the data plan will simply choose the on demand option.

It's all about the audience. Right now, people who pay for data plan are the ones who really need it, so using it on demand just doesn't make sense for them. But it probably won't be like this forever. When most of the population are on the data plan (because it doesn't cost that much extra), the default on the phone might even be to use it on demand. After all, you don't want the majority of your customers to call you and ask "why the hell is my battery life so bad"?

Of course, another alternative is we'll have nuclear powered batteries by then and the whole issue will be moot.
Ahhhh. Logic is so refreshing. I think everyone (-1 probably) would agree with you on this. As for the actual life of the battery, they have become easily replaceable now. I think you can pick up a battery for the Eris at about $29.99 to $39.99. They will probably be about $5 on ebay in a little while.
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Ahhhh. Logic is so refreshing. I think everyone (-1 probably) would agree with you on this. As for the actual life of the battery, they have become easily replaceable now. I think you can pick up a battery for the Eris at about $29.99 to $39.99. They will probably be about $5 on ebay in a little while.

The other little tidbit in this whole mix is that the biggest battery hog on the phone is the bluetooth. I find this particularly disappointing. Both of my cars have built in bluetooth, and with my BB Curve, I would leave the BT on constantly, so that when I got in and out of the car, it would be connected automatically. If I did that in this phone, it would be dead before lunch. I could literally go 3x that (from one morning to the next afternoon) with the BT plugged in, getting 150 plus emails a day. Less if I had heavy call volume.

That's the thing that I find the most offensive when it comes to battery life.

Yes, I can (and do) turn the Bluetooth off, but I often forget to turn it back on when I get in the car. And it's not until I get a call do I realize that it's off. Of course then you're yelling "hang on" or talking on the speakerphone while you're trying to start the BT and wait for it to connect.

Very professional.
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The other little tidbit in this whole mix is that the biggest battery hog on the phone is the bluetooth. I find this particularly disappointing. Both of my cars have built in bluetooth, and with my BB Curve, I would leave the BT on constantly, so that when I got in and out of the car, it would be connected automatically. If I did that in this phone, it would be dead before lunch. I could literally go 3x that (from one morning to the next afternoon) with the BT plugged in, getting 150 plus emails a day. Less if I had heavy call volume.

That's the thing that I find the most offensive when it comes to battery life.

Yes, I can (and do) turn the Bluetooth off, but I often forget to turn it back on when I get in the car. And it's not until I get a call do I realize that it's off. Of course then you're yelling "hang on" or talking on the speakerphone while you're trying to start the BT and wait for it to connect.

Very professional.
That kind of surprised me too. I know a couple of people with different Android devices and they say GPS is the biggest drain for them and Wifi comes in second. I guess the Eris is VERY serious about finding a device to pair with. I have always left the bluetooth on on my curve, but I guess I will just have to turn it off when I get out of the car now. Good thing they make car charges too.
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Guess what...NOBODY gives a crap about getting emails instanty. This is NOT a buisness phone. Get a BB if you want instant emails. Welcome to 2009, we use TXT msgs these days pops...You have seriously been misguided to buy this phone for buisness use. SIMPLY TOO FUNNY! LOLz! IMO you are lying about your need for instant emails for "business" use, you are just tring to cherry picking the ONLY feature that needs Mobile Network on all the time but you fail to realize NOBODY cares about instant emails.

Ill say it again, there is NO realistic reason to leave Mobile Network enabled on this phone. This is NOT a buisness phone and nobody cares about instant emails. Welcome to 2009 and TXT msgs.
Not a business phone eh? So then tell me Smart guy, whats the difference between mobile phones and smart phones? You my friend have been misguided for buying this phone for just TXT msgs.This is 2009, we use smart phones for internet use, downloading apps, receiving/sending e-mails, for myspace\twitter\facebook updates and to post. Oh and also for using youtube, now tell me how are we supposed to use those things when our Mobile Network is off? The IPhone was also claimed on not being a business phone yet a lot of business companies are using them, go figure Looks like you were the idiot for buying a smart phone and having to pay $30 extra a month and not using it for what its supposed to be used for. It's like buying a Blu Ray player and using it to play DVD's only. Nice try...
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i havent read all of this (and im not! lol) but i can say that turning off "enable always on mobile" has shown to significantly increase the battery usage.
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Not a business phone eh? So then tell me Smart guy, whats the difference between mobile phones and smart phones? You my friend have been misguided for buying this phone for just TXT msgs.This is 2009, we use smart phones for internet use, downloading apps, receiving/sending e-mails, for myspace\twitter\facebook updates and to post. Oh and also for using youtube, now tell me how are we supposed to use those things when our Mobile Network is off? The IPhone was also claimed on not being a business phone yet a lot of business companies are using them, go figure Looks like you were the idiot for buying a smart phone and having to pay $30 extra a month and not using it for what its supposed to be used for. It's like buying a Blu Ray player and using it to play DVD's only. Nice try...


Jokes on you... Grimster "pay[s] $40 for [his] Eris with unlimited data, text, and 900min. " So... unless his voice plan is $10, he doesnt pay $30 extra a month


http://androidforums.com/sprint-htc-hero/14913-droid-eris-vs-sprint-hero-2.html
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Jokes on you... Grimster "pay[s] $40 for [his] Eris with unlimited data, text, and 900min. " So... unless his voice plan is $10, he doesnt pay $30 extra a month


http://androidforums.com/sprint-htc-hero/14913-droid-eris-vs-sprint-hero-2.html
Going by Verizon's pricing he is probably on a family share plan and actual does pay $10 for the actual phone part and $30 for the data part. The only part that falls through on that is the text. It is always extra, but his mom may not make him pay for that or she could just get a discount depending on who she works for.
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Jokes on you... Grimster "pay[s] $40 for [his] Eris with unlimited data, text, and 900min. " So... unless his voice plan is $10, he doesnt pay $30 extra a month


http://androidforums.com/sprint-htc-hero/14913-droid-eris-vs-sprint-hero-2.html
Either way why would you buy a Blu Ray Player to just play DVD's? Also secondary lines are only $10 extra plus $30 for unlimited data..
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Either way why would you buy a Blu Ray Player to just play DVD's? Also secondary lines are only $10 extra plus $30 for unlimited data..
I got mine to play beta max.
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Going by Verizon's pricing he is probably on a family share plan and actual does pay $10 for the actual phone part and $30 for the data part. The only part that falls through on that is the text. It is always extra, but his mom may not make him pay for that or she could just get a discount depending on who she works for.
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Im with Needsdecaf. I too need to be "connected" all the time and I usually get time sensitive (to the minute) emails that if I do not respond in time I will lose a bid. I have found the Android Eris to be the most connected phone around and I love it. The battery life has sucked with any smartphone I have owned (blackberrys, iPhone, Winmo) without tweaks. I am not interested in having a phone that lasts several days as long as I get a day to a day and a half. I have accomplished this by turning off the gps/wifi when not needed and simply turning off the auto-brightness and turned the brighness down to about a 1/4 which is still really bright. I get a day and a half now with heavy use. This is fine with me especially since I dont have to carry a brick around in my pocket. This eris is SO tiny! My 0.02.
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Im with Needsdecaf. I too need to be "connected" all the time and I usually get time sensitive (to the minute) emails that if I do not respond in time I will lose a bid. I have found the Android Eris to be the most connected phone around and I love it. The battery life has sucked with any smartphone I have owned (blackberrys, iPhone, Winmo) without tweaks. I am not interested in having a phone that lasts several days as long as I get a day to a day and a half. I have accomplished this by turning off the gps/wifi when not needed and simply turning off the auto-brightness and turned the brighness down to about a 1/4 which is still really bright. I get a day and a half now with heavy use. This is fine with me especially since I dont have to carry a brick around in my pocket. This eris is SO tiny! My 0.02.

Ditto on the brightness. I found the "auto dimmer" to be pathetic. The phone was ALWAYS bright. My bb had a big difference between the dim and bright settings. On the Eris, I never noticed much of a difference.

Even at a pretty low setting, it's still plenty bright during the day and very bright at night.
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Ditto on the brightness. I found the "auto dimmer" to be pathetic. The phone was ALWAYS bright. My bb had a big difference between the dim and bright settings. On the Eris, I never noticed much of a difference.

Even at a pretty low setting, it's still plenty bright during the day and very bright at night.

sure is. its so funny how people argue. cmon I use my phone for about 99% of what i used to use a laptop for. i cant remember my laptop lasting for more than a few hours without a charge. a day of mobile data is plenty for me!
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I use my phone for about 99% of what i used to use a laptop for. i cant remember my laptop lasting for more than a few hours without a charge. a day of mobile data is plenty for me!

That's a great point.
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Going by Verizon's pricing he is probably on a family share plan and actual does pay $10 for the actual phone part and $30 for the data part. The only part that falls through on that is the text. It is always extra, but his mom may not make him pay for that or she could just get a discount depending on who she works for.
If this is the case, Grimster is a genius technologically, but an absolute moron financially. Under that structure, sounds like his family is on the select plan and if he's getting 6+ days per charge, he must be using little data and he'd cut his costs in half by getting a feature phone with 25MB plan, or even by 25% with a 75MB plan. Personally, for $30/month, I want the mobile network "always on" and pushing email and other notifications to me live. I have a blackberry for work and this is the best thing about a data plan to me.

Now, I'm no expert by any means but my blackberry with push email seems to be robust on battery life. I have to imagine this is because of the BES I'm synced with. I ping the tower every 3.5s and the phone operates in constant "wait to receive" mode with the BES managing the need for data to be pushed to me at any instant. The difference is that a phone like the Eris without the benefit of a "middle manager" basically has to send requests on a regular basis which consumes charge faster. Is this right? Software-wise, the blackberry is fine for work, but not much of a consumer device IMO.
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