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Old December 10th, 2009, 11:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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was debating of returning my eris b/c is was so laggy at some points. googled turning off sense ui. i tried it and i am getting a much better response from my phone now. even after a manual update of the OS, it was still laggy as before. if you don't mind not having sense, it is great. has anyone tried this? i haven't been running w/o sense for a while and about to go to bed, but i will try more apps tomorrow. don't know if this has been covered.

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Old December 10th, 2009, 11:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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one of the main selling points to getting the eris over the droid is having the sense UI. if you don't want it, get a droid.
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Old December 10th, 2009, 11:31 PM   #3 (permalink)
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^The Moto Droid is a much larger form factor. There is no comparison in that regard.
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Old December 10th, 2009, 11:34 PM   #4 (permalink)
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nowhere in this thread is "form factor" being mentioned. so..........?
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nowhere in this thread is "form factor" being mentioned. so..........?
The fact that I have to explain this is telling.

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one of the main selling points to getting the eris over the droid is having the sense UI. if you don't want it, get a droid.
Another main selling point is form factor, therefore, telling someone to get a Moto Droid instead of the Eris based on your "main selling point" comment is ridiculous as there are clearly other reasons to own an Eris besides Sense UI.

A little clearer for you now?
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how do you turn off the sense UI and can you turn it on or off
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Old December 11th, 2009, 12:44 AM   #7 (permalink)
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how do you turn off the sense UI and can you turn it on or off
Go to settings/applications/sense UI then clear defaults and force stop then hit the home button and choose Home when given the option.
you can then set it as default if you want to. And yes you can turn it off or on.
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another question it is harmful to turn off the sense UI also i can switch back and will be settins be the same
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Is this more resource-effective than simply running the Home Switcher app to set the vanilla 1.5 as your default home? Even if your method squeezes more speed from the Eris, anyone considering this should download Home Switcher first because the vanilla 1.5 android is pretty blah, IMHO. Of course, your proprietary HTC apps are still working. People is still exactly the same and it runs in the background and gives you the same notifications.
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Old December 11th, 2009, 07:00 AM   #10 (permalink)
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one of the main selling points to getting the eris over the droid is having the sense UI. if you don't want it, get a droid.
If I had wanted a phone with a cramped dedicated kb and form factor that i hate, then I would have gotten a droid
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im good on this, sense is worth the very nominal (and i have tried it) speed up that comes from not using it.
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Old December 11th, 2009, 11:23 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Droid allready does sense UI. Eris is only a nock off of the hero lol, Dont get me wrong good little phone but not in droids league sorry.
 
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How does moto droid do sense ui?

judging by your username, postcount, you may be just a t.....um.....well.....you know
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Droid allready does sense UI. Eris is only a nock off of the hero lol, Dont get me wrong good little phone but not in droids league sorry.
sense ui is a product of HTC!
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ehh i thought everyone got along on this forum
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Tried it.

I dont see any speed increase in menus, apps, ect.

Going back to Sense UI.
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Old December 11th, 2009, 01:27 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Be nice guys.

You're right, though, Droid does not have the SenseUI. There are themes that can make any stock Android device very much like SenseUI, though.
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Old December 11th, 2009, 02:06 PM   #19 (permalink)
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ehh i thought everyone got along on this forum
Haha. I thought the whole world got along. Peeps love to talk smack when they can't be touched.
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Old December 11th, 2009, 02:47 PM   #20 (permalink)
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this may be a dumb question, but what does it look like when sense UI is turned off?
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it looks crappy.
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It looks pretty much exactly like the Droid....

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it looks crappy.
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Old December 12th, 2009, 11:36 AM   #23 (permalink)
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i kinda feel like that may be cool...
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Old December 12th, 2009, 11:54 AM   #24 (permalink)
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I turned off Sense but I still had a black notification bar. How did you make yours white?
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Since the Droid has been rooted, someone could install Eclair for Hero. I wonder how well that works.
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I turned off Sense but I still had a black notification bar. How did you make yours white?
At the moment, you can't. At least I have searched for hours trying to find out how, with no success. Let me know if you get anything
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Oh, man, that was scary. Turned Sense off for a minute, and felt like I was in a scene from Flatliners or somethingólike I had gone to a dark place and was never coming back. Don't think I'll ever do that again.....
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What exactly is different about SenseUI? I mean I see that the bottom bar is now gone, but do you still get the 7 home screens? What are the other differences? thanks
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Ok Sense UI is only 1.00mb in size considering everything else running thats barely a drop in the bucket if your phone is Laggy and not running right might want to switch it out. Have you got or did a update on it yet??
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Turning off Sense UI does NOT improve performance. Confirmed via CPU meter apps.

End of thread.
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Not so fast, my friend.

Did anyone else notice that there were a whole set of different wallpapers when you turned Sense off? When I turn Sense back on, I can't find them anywhere.

To access them: turn off Sense, long-press anywhere on the home screen, select "wallpapers," then select "Wallpaper Gallery Home."
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Turning off Sense UI does NOT improve performance. Confirmed via CPU meter apps.

End of thread.
Really get a kick out of how you come up with a one response and proclaim, "End of Thread", as if your comments are the end all to be all !

Are you one of those "Self-proclaimed" moderators or something ?

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turning off sense ui gives you almost 30MB of memory back at startup. When sense is asleep at startup it does not consume much memory at all. CPU is nothing, sense sleeps most of the time anyway. The default home does not use as many animations and stuff either so it does feel faster as well especially if you use spare parts to speed up the animations from default.
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How does moto droid do sense ui?

judging by your username, postcount, you may be just a t.....um.....well.....you know
i feel pretty lame...but what is he?

a t...???
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i am pretty sure that the sense ui is what was draining my battery. i turned it off and have noticed an increase in speed and battery performance. might just be me though.
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Wow, I'm new to this forum but it sems like alot of you purchased the phone just to criticize it. My eris as been nothing but expected and it's my 2nd of 4 so called smartphones. It was updated within 5 weeks with the idea of getting 2.0 within three months what the hell is wrong.
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Can someone please help me out with turn Sense back on? I'm in panic mode.


Nevermind. Downloaded home switcher. good to go. phew
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settings/applications/manage apps...

then find HOME and clear defaults and then hit the button, should ask you to choose.
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Droid allready does sense UI. Eris is only a nock off of the hero lol, Dont get me wrong good little phone but not in droids league sorry.
Normally I don't feed trolls, but no one would argue that the Eris is more powerful or more capable than the Droid. It simply isn't true, the Droid is a beast and has tons of power. However, I, along with many others, bought the Eris for a few reasons.

1) True Sense UI supported by HTC and upkept by all updates.
2) cheaper price
3) form factor, nice and small, feels good in the hands
4) NOT the ugliest phone ever made. Seriously, the droid is the product of a 15 year old who was told "design a manly phone, don't worry if it's ugly, it just has to be manly".
5) no physical keyboard, they're a waste of space and add unneeded bulk to the phone.
6) trackball, it's great for games and using the phone one-handed in the car and serves as a cool silent notification.

I knew the Droid was much more powerful and yet I never even considered buying one. And yes, I had more than enough money to buy one. If the Nexus One would have been available, I would have bought that. It also has some of the same advantages as the Eris, specifically numbers 3, 4, 5, and 6.
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4) NOT the ugliest phone ever made. Seriously, the droid is the product of a 15 year old who was told "design a manly phone, don't worry if it's ugly, it just has to be manly".
That is just too funny, mostly because it's true. With the Moto there is no reason to carry another weapon.
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I would just like to take this opportunity and point out that this thread was started on 12-11-2009 12:26 AM. That is all.....carry on.
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To each his/her own. I haven't run SenseUI since the second week I've had my phone. I prefer it not using it. Sense lags me out and slows me down. I prefer Open Home, dxTop, and Panda Home. (before it force closed ever 5 minutes).
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One benefit I can see of running home rather than Sense is that the phone button is gone off the main screen. I can't tell you how many times I have accidently dialed someone (I assume) from hitting this button inadvertently. It was such an issue for me, in fact, that I've downloaded Super Dial (which is only about 50% functional) and Not Call Log so that the Eris goes back to the main home screen when a call ends so you don't accidently redial anyone.
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Ok Sense UI is only 1.00mb in size considering everything else running thats barely a drop in the bucket if your phone is Laggy and not running right might want to switch it out. Have you got or did a update on it yet??
The amount of memory an application takes up or the size of the executable itself has nothing to do with the amount of resources an application hogs while it is running. I can write a tiny little app that continually runs an extremely complex mathematic calculation that will rail your processor to 100% and not let you do anything else on your phone, while consuming no RAM.
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i really really like dxtop, but for me it is more laggy then sense.
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Caddy, you still running dxTop on 2.1? Just curious if the changes they made kept you from using a home replacement.
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i have dxtop installed yes, and i used it for a few hours, i like sense better though...the new widgets and what not are top notch and i like the leap feature of for no other reason then the wow factor.
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Old March 8th, 2010, 12:31 PM   #49 (permalink)
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I think I would cry at this point if I had to give up the clock/weather widget. I don't care what taking it off does for my phone. I love that little animated thing.
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Old March 8th, 2010, 12:35 PM   #50 (permalink)
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I think I would cry at this point if I had to give up the clock/weather widget. I don't care what taking it off does for my phone. I love that little animated thing.
OTD have you tried Beautiful Widgets? They have a Widget that is almost identical to the stock one. They also have a smaller one which only takes up 1 row but still has the cool weather animation.

I downloaded Home Switcher and I'm going to set it up to my liking and then see which I like better. I'm really kinda digging the fact that the phone button isn't ever-present.
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