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Old February 10th, 2010, 04:18 PM   #101 (permalink)
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Yeah - but where is it?
I got the update notification, updated, rebooted - durned if *I* see a fifth screen in the center...
What did I forget to do?
you have to enable it in the config screen

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So is DXTop just a "Home" replacement also? Anyone have any screens from it? Does it do anything special?
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I tried home and a couple home replacements and didnt like them as much as Sense. One thing I loved about Panda was you could hide icons in your app drawer ... great for those apps you never use. Oh well, sticking with Sense for now
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I tried regular home, then advanced launcher, but now I'm back to Sense with AutoKill Taskiller ON
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you have to enable it in the config screen
You know, I looked there yesterday and didn't see that "Enable Center Screen" option. Of course it's there today.
How'd you make my phone do that Caddy?!?

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menu>settings>applications>manage applications
scroll down to sense and select it then select clear defaults
hit the home key and a pop up will appear. check the box to do this action by default and then select home. Repeat this process (only swap home and sense) to go back to sense.
I have tried the home now but I want to change back to Sense. But I can't press the "Clear Defaults" button because it says that it's already been cleared. What must I do to get back Sense?

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Old February 11th, 2010, 09:15 AM   #106 (permalink)
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Had my phone for a little over a week now and i've been back and forth on Home and Sense. Right now I'm running Sense and the phone seems to respond better. Also frees up a lot more ram after the garbage (footprints, newrob, shopsavvy, browser, why does this startup on startup? ) is shutdown.

A clean boot after clearing the extra programs I never us gives me 104mb free, with sense it was in the 80s.

I also like the stock drawer rather than the sense drawer.
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Old February 11th, 2010, 09:18 AM   #107 (permalink)
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I have tried the home now but I want to change back to Sense. But I can't press the "Clear Defaults" button because it says that it's already been cleared. What must I do to get back Sense?
Rather than clearing defaults in Sense, you must clear defaults in the application "Home". Then, the next time you press the home button, it will ask which home you want to use, and will allow you to set Sense as the default.
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I can't press the "Clear Defaults" button because it says that it's already been cleared.

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You can still press it. It's ok, go on and press it.
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You can still press it. It's ok, go on and press it.
No because the button is "grey" and it don't work.

"No defaults set"
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"Clear defaults" on HOME now, not on Sense.
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"Clear defaults" on HOME now, not on Sense.
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No because the button is "grey" and it don't work.

"No defaults set"
Oh, you didn't say it was greyed out, in your earlier post.

But it's resolved now. Cool.
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For those who've switched to HOME from SENSE, how's your battery life ? Since switching, I can't make it more than 8-10 hours without needing to re-charge. I had the phone on the charger overnight and it was at 100% this morning. Now, at 5pm, it's telling me to "Please connect charger" and that it's below 10% already !
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For those who've switched to HOME from SENSE, how's your battery life ? Since switching, I can't make it more than 8-10 hours without needing to re-charge. I had the phone on the charger overnight and it was at 100% this morning. Now, at 5pm, it's telling me to "Please connect charger" and that it's below 10% already !
I notice a little better, I took mine off the charger this morning at 6am and I've used it for .. a few phone calls, couple dozen texts , dozen emails, pandora for about a half an hour and music player for about an hour plus some web surfing etc....

and about 330 I'm at 68% battery so that's 32% in a 9.5 hours.. I'd say I'd usually be about 55%
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Old February 11th, 2010, 06:26 PM   #115 (permalink)
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I can't say that I'm using it a LOT more than normal but I could previously go 1-1/2 to 2 days. No heavy-duty stuff like Pandora, just texting, web browsing, and some talk time (less than 30 min, probably more like 15-20).
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For those who've switched to HOME from SENSE, how's your battery life ? Since switching, I can't make it more than 8-10 hours without needing to re-charge. I had the phone on the charger overnight and it was at 100% this morning. Now, at 5pm, it's telling me to "Please connect charger" and that it's below 10% already !
It's not any better running home than sense. Both are the same. You will not save any battery by running home.
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It's not any better running home than sense. Both are the same. You will not save any battery by running home.
That was my discovery, too.
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Old February 11th, 2010, 07:16 PM   #118 (permalink)
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I just like the UI on Sense more than Home, but that's just how I feel now. Might change in a couple months.

I've got scenes set on both, overall I like the widgets on Sense more
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Yep I'm the same on batt usage pretty much. Using home hasn't improved batt life as much as improved quickness a bit and made using the dialer and basic phone easier and snappier.
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...improved quickness a bit and made using the dialer and basic phone easier and snappier.
Those were the things that Smacky was talking about when I first saw the idea of disabling Sense posted here, so I tried it.

I did like it for a bit; went back and forth and played with it a while. For me the telling thing was realizing that when I was in Home I was looking forward to getting back to Sense, but when I was in Sense I was just going to Home to see what it was like.

So, Sense won. Not a big enough difference in performance to justify making Home the default.
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For those who've switched to HOME from SENSE, how's your battery life ? Since switching, I can't make it more than 8-10 hours without needing to re-charge. I had the phone on the charger overnight and it was at 100% this morning. Now, at 5pm, it's telling me to "Please connect charger" and that it's below 10% already !
My battery life seems better to me - probably 10% higher by the end of the day. Based on what I recall of your screen shots, perhaps it's all of the widgets you have? I have only two widgets running - Pure Calendar and a battery widget (which, when pressed, lets me toggle the radios as well.)

Also, I only have lag occasionally when I first turn on the phone from sleep after it's been sitting for a bit and it then pops some notifications (which happened with Sense UI as well.) Otherwise, there is much less lag than when Sense UI is running. (I was running basically the same number of widgets under Sense - I removed the huge clock/weather widget early on.)
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My battery life seems better to me - probably 10% higher by the end of the day. Based on what I recall of your screen shots, perhaps it's all of the widgets you have? I have only two widgets running - Pure Calendar and a battery widget (which, when pressed, lets me toggle the radios as well.)

Also, I only have lag occasionally when I first turn on the phone from sleep after it's been sitting for a bit and it then pops some notifications (which happened with Sense UI as well.) Otherwise, there is much less lag than when Sense UI is running. (I was running basically the same number of widgets under Sense - I removed the huge clock/weather widget early on.)
What battery life is that? I use batterylife by curvefish just because it looks great..
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What battery life is that? I use batterylife by curvefish just because it looks great..
I am using "Battery Widget" by mippin.com.
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Using battery widget to monitor this, I have just gone 36 hours and it just hitting yellow now.

Home is the way you make it.
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Based on what I recall of your screen shots, perhaps it's all of the widgets you have?
I've never posted any screenshots... I do run a clock, weather, and calendar widget. With Sense, I ran HTC's versions of those same (type) widgets. I suppose I could check how often they update vs how often HTC's did.
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For those who've switched to HOME from SENSE, how's your battery life ? Since switching, I can't make it more than 8-10 hours without needing to re-charge. I had the phone on the charger overnight and it was at 100% this morning. Now, at 5pm, it's telling me to "Please connect charger" and that it's below 10% already !
You may have other issues, I'm afraid. On both Sense and Home, once my battery was "trained", I get 48 or more hours per charge (depending on what new toys I have discovered)
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My wife seems to be getting nearly 2 days out of her battery with moderate use, where I can get about 12 hours. I have tried using no widgets at all and make sure my phone sleeps properly. She just seems to get more out of her battery for some reason. If I'm using the internet on my phone for about 15 min after a full charge, it's down below the 90% mark and keeps falling pretty steady from there on.
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After reading this thread i decided to make the switch to Home. I like it a lot better. The 3 windows is perfect for me and it keeps everything clean and simple. The battery life from what i've noticed is only a slight better but no big deal it was never that bad to begin with with me. So if this was a vote, i vote Home.
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My wife seems to be getting nearly 2 days out of her battery with moderate use, where I can get about 12 hours. I have tried using no widgets at all and make sure my phone sleeps properly. She just seems to get more out of her battery for some reason. If I'm using the internet on my phone for about 15 min after a full charge, it's down below the 90% mark and keeps falling pretty steady from there on.
Are you using data? If you are, that generally kills your battery. Try WiFi whenever available.

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After reading this thread i decided to make the switch to Home. I like it a lot better. The 3 windows is perfect for me and it keeps everything clean and simple. The battery life from what i've noticed is only a slight better but no big deal it was never that bad to begin with with me. So if this was a vote, i vote Home.
Yeah, five or seven just gets to be silly and unnecessary. I'm a relatively simple guy, and my phone doesn't need thirty pieces of flare (minimum) to keep its function as a smartphone.
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If you like Home try OpenHome I found it the perfect balance between the features of Sense and the stock android home.
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If you like Home try OpenHome I found it the perfect balance between the features of Sense and the stock android home.

I'm a cheapass, so I'm not gonna use OpenHome. If it isn't too hard and there's a tutorial somewhere, I'd like to make my own set of icons for myself.
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You may have other issues, I'm afraid.
Here's a possibility: For the past couple of days, I was using the wall charger from my HTC SMT5800 phone.
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For those who've switched to HOME from SENSE, how's your battery life ? Since switching, I can't make it more than 8-10 hours without needing to re-charge. I had the phone on the charger overnight and it was at 100% this morning. Now, at 5pm, it's telling me to "Please connect charger" and that it's below 10% already !
Looks like this post hasn't had any comments recently, but I'm using the leaked 2.1 and switched using Sense to Home and I've seen a DRAMATIC improvement in battery. I can go a full day with moderate to heavy use without a recharge, which would have only been a half day using Sense. It could be due to the beta 2.1 version, but I'm sticking with Home. It's like having a regular cell phone again where you're not constantly worrying that using it will kill the battery!
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Anyone figure out how to have the messages and mail icons update properly? When I run home and get email I don't get the nice count icon on the icon anymore. I'm guess that's a sense thing.
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You would be correct

Gmail Unread Count and SMS unread count are available in the market for free. They also allow some customizations of the icons
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