Today..I had to call Verizon on a completely different suject...for some reason the Techie asked me what software version I was running.. Mind you my call had nothing to do with the Eris itself. Is Verizon trying to catch people who wanted to upgrade without thier blessing?
Don't tell them you have 2.1!!!!!!!!
They have a whole room full of kittens and really sharp knives. They are just waiting for someone to say something so thet can start the slaughter.
Almost got me. I respect your right to express your opinion. Having said that, please keep your political discussions and opinions out of the current discussion, which is supposed to be the time/date/circumstances surrounding the upcoming OTA 2.1 update. There's a time and a place for this kind of discussion, and I would honestly LOVE the chance to engage on a deeper level, but this isn't the correct place or time for that to happen.
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Almost got me. I respect your right to express your opinion. Having said that, please keep your political discussions and opinions out of the current discussion, which is supposed to be the time/date/circumstances surrounding the upcoming OTA 2.1 update. There's a time and a place for this kind of discussion, and I would honestly LOVE the chance to engage on a deeper level, but this isn't the correct place or time for that to happen.
"I may not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it."
-Evelyn Beatrice Hall
It hurts to bite your tongue that hard, huh? Thanks for keeping us on track.
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It will be able 7 years before the lawsuit goes to court, but it wont end up in court, it will be worked out of court, thats the way things roll.
HTC JUST found out about being served days ago. The leaked came out before that. They are two different things, HTC will continue to roll out dual/pinch touch phones with android on it for years.
I'm no lawyer but Verizon would be foolish to release what Apple calls intellectual property. I would find it very hard to believe HTC had no heads up a lawsuit was coming. It's not like some process server showed up at the company and served the owner. I'm sure they had weeks or months of negotiations first. Then HTC said screw you Apple...sue us.
This lawsuit is a shot at Google anyways. If you look at the back of your Eris it says google. If the OTA doesn't show up then I suspect I'm on to something about this leak. It was leaked because Verizon isn't going to sell the Eris or the Nexus One in the next few months.
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The ’331 Patent, entitled “Time-Based, Non-Constant Translation Of User Interface Objects Between States,” was duly and legally issued on April 22, 2008 by the United States Patent and Trademark Office.
The ’949 Patent, entitled “Touch Screen Device, Method, And Graphical User Interface For Determining Commands By Applying Heuristics,” was duly and legally issued on January 20, 2009 by the United States Patent and Trademark Office. A copy of the ’949 Patent is attached hereto as Exhibit B.
The ’849 Patent, entitled “Unlocking A Device By Performing Gestures On An Unlock Image,” was duly and legally issued on February 2, 2010 by the United States Patent and Trademark Office. A copy of the ’849 Patent is attached hereto as Exhibit C.
The ’381 Patent, entitled “List Scrolling And Document Translation, Scaling, And Rotation On A Touch-Screen Display,” was duly and legally issued on December 23, 2008 by the United States Patent and Trademark Office. A copy of the ’381 Patent is attached hereto as Exhibit D.
Just those few complaints lodged against HTC seems to suggest they are talking about the OS. Verizon would be fools to knowingly pass along intellectual property. I firmly believe that's why it was leaked because the OTA will be MIA in March.
I don't know... all those sound more like hits at Android itself, rather than HTC in particular... I'm no expert (obviously) but in cases like this, the company being sued will almost always plug away with the "offending" (HTC) technology until the very instant that they can't (they lose the case), and even then, they usually end up settling in a way that allows the "offended" (Apple) to cash in on royalties while sales continue.
I personally think the suit is just harassment anyway, because if Apple wanted to be consistent, they'd be suing Microsoft because Windows 7 "kinda looks like Mac OS", and suing laptop makers for adding multi-touch movements into their touch panels (my girlfriend's Gateway she just got has this).
So while I doubt this will stop 2.1 from being officially released, I am kinda pissed that once again, I seem to have bought a phone that has an "end of life" just a couple months after I get it...
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C'mon people, just breath.
Does anyone remember RIM. The boards were buzzing about RIM shuttering its doors. Never happened. These things do take time and the manufacturers will continue to produce these devices. This makes Apple look petty and gives Android a lot of street cred.
Why is HTC the first company they hit claiming an infringement on Multi Touch input ? It's over Android. Google has released a statement pledging to be behind HTC. They have tons of money in R & D and if Apple were to successfully stop HTC it would open the floodgates and all others would follow. Google has VERY deep pockets and a large vested interest.
As far as Verizon goes, they would not be liable for releasing devices that , as of yet, have not been proven to infringe on a patent. These patents themselves may be challenged and defeated. All that has happened is a highly publicized complaint. This thing isn't on a docket yet.
Also, let's not forget that HTC released the first "smartphone" 13 years ago and has pioneered the field since. The iPhone hit the market in 2007. I would wager that HTC has a few tricks in its patent bag that almost all manufacturers infringe on in some way. It is highly unlikely this will make it to court. Google won't let its OS die on the vine. There is also the prospect of the re-engineering the technology so that the same function is facilitated through a different mechanism that does not violate the patent. The actual patent is far more intricate than the description we are seeing here.
Lastly, This may back fire in Apple's face. The anti-Microsoft adopts a practice that puts it in the same arena that MS has been derided over. This may very well be seen as indictment of Apple's ability to compete on merit. Did they really think the iPhone would be the apex of mobile technology for eternity ? The Google train isn't slowing down and everyone at Microsoft, Apple and all others better be on notice. This company is conceived and designed to feel the pulse of the future. They have open development. They allow their employees to spend 20% of their time on pet projects. They saw room to further innovate in the mobile arena and have produced a very slick OS. The first one even close to the iPhone OS and unlike Apple have not demanded a closed ecosystem or tied themselves to a single carrier. They have allowed the source of their work to be open, enabling manufacturers like HTC to put their own spin on it. These are the things that Google is doing better than Apple right now and the OS is catching up fast. This lawsuit is proof positive that Apple is fully aware of that fact.
The ’331 Patent, entitled “Time-Based, Non-Constant Translation Of User Interface Objects Between States,” was duly and legally issued on April 22, 2008 by the United States Patent and Trademark Office.
The ’949 Patent, entitled “Touch Screen Device, Method, And Graphical User Interface For Determining Commands By Applying Heuristics,” was duly and legally issued on January 20, 2009 by the United States Patent and Trademark Office. A copy of the ’949 Patent is attached hereto as Exhibit B.
The ’849 Patent, entitled “Unlocking A Device By Performing Gestures On An Unlock Image,” was duly and legally issued on February 2, 2010 by the United States Patent and Trademark Office. A copy of the ’849 Patent is attached hereto as Exhibit C.
The ’381 Patent, entitled “List Scrolling And Document Translation, Scaling, And Rotation On A Touch-Screen Display,” was duly and legally issued on December 23, 2008 by the United States Patent and Trademark Office. A copy of the ’381 Patent is attached hereto as Exhibit D.
Just those few complaints lodged against HTC seems to suggest they are talking about the OS. Verizon would be fools to knowingly pass along intellectual property. I firmly believe that's why it was leaked because the OTA will be MIA in March.
does anyone else think theres a resemblance between droidcula and a certain vegetable that makes people cry, as well as a program used to steal music?
maybe im just crazy.
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still. i've got my eye one you, droidcula. i've got my eye on you.....
one vampire per forum allowed.
That picture is just creepy as hell. As long as they don't start eating the members, there isn't anything wrong with multiple vamps. Onion was very rude and napster was very dim, I don't think any of them are the same.
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Stop! Not very, very old. Just a little dated that's all. OTD is very, very old. I always used pip describing someone. Kinda like feisty.
Not nice to talk about a ladies age.
On topic: The whole Apple law suite (on purpose) isn't going to mess with anything right now. It will be years before it sees the inside of a courtroom and nobody has filed a cease and desist against HTC. Until then, they are able to use what they have and I am sure they will.
Anyone starting to wonder if we'll get the 2.1 OTA especially sinc theres this talk of them removing the eris from verizon and if so anytime soon?
It's funny how people take any "news" and run with such negative scenarios ! Let me take it further... After April 1st, Verizon is going to turn our phones off too and make us buy new ones.
The ’331 Patent, entitled “Time-Based, Non-Constant Translation Of User Interface Objects Between States,” was duly and legally issued on April 22, 2008 by the United States Patent and Trademark Office.
The ’949 Patent, entitled “Touch Screen Device, Method, And Graphical User Interface For Determining Commands By Applying Heuristics,” was duly and legally issued on January 20, 2009 by the United States Patent and Trademark Office. A copy of the ’949 Patent is attached hereto as Exhibit B.
The ’849 Patent, entitled “Unlocking A Device By Performing Gestures On An Unlock Image,” was duly and legally issued on February 2, 2010 by the United States Patent and Trademark Office. A copy of the ’849 Patent is attached hereto as Exhibit C.
The ’381 Patent, entitled “List Scrolling And Document Translation, Scaling, And Rotation On A Touch-Screen Display,” was duly and legally issued on December 23, 2008 by the United States Patent and Trademark Office. A copy of the ’381 Patent is attached hereto as Exhibit D.
Just those few complaints lodged against HTC seems to suggest they are talking about the OS. Verizon would be fools to knowingly pass along intellectual property. I firmly believe that's why it was leaked because the OTA will be MIA in March.
Other Manufacturers and OS's do this already, no? LG Dare(unlock and list scrolling, rotation, etc), Samsung Instinct(unlock, scrolling, etc), LG, Samsung, Sony, Motorola, and EVERYONE who has put out a touch screen phone.. Plus, those aren't just 2.1 features...
It's funny how people take any "news" and run with such negative scenarios ! Let me take it further... After April 1st, Verizon is going to turn our phones off too and make us buy new ones.
There not going to turn them off. That is just silly.
They are going to come to our homes and take them. Then they will download porn and viruses to your computer and empty your refrigerator.
Has anyone heard anything about the update? Every time I see that someone has posted something on here, I get excited, and then see that they just wrote about already having 2.1.
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Wonder if it was the OTA delivery again... They should just post and give people the option to download it and install. I know this opens up a can of worms for Tech and Customer Service, but this doesn't do much for Verizon's image either...
I can't imagine they found an eleventh hour bug that stopped the process. But who knows...
Wonder if it was the OTA delivery again...
I can't imagine they found an eleventh hour bug that stopped the process. But who knows...
I totally agree with that. This is a huge download and I really can't imagine why they would do OTA on this. Some will then have to wait for days for it and the phone calls would be overwhelming. Phone down for at least 15 minutes during the morning commute could be a disaster for those needing to be in communication during that time. IMO, OTA should be reserved for bug fixes and simple updates not supplanting an entire OS.
Today..I had to call Verizon on a completely different suject...for some reason the Techie asked me what software version I was running.. Mind you my call had nothing to do with the Eris itself. Is Verizon trying to catch people who wanted to upgrade without thier blessing?
There have been 2 updates to the software since the Eris' release. I'm sure he/she was referring to that. Verizon tech support and Verizon customer service don't know and don't care about 2.1 until it is officially released.
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instead of a retort.
Onion was very rude and napster was very dim, I don't think any of them are the same.
