Anyways in the spirit of not starting pointless threads I had a few questions...
Earlier today while taking pics of myself and friends i want to edit the pics, like i normally do. Make them a little brighter, black and white and such...
i went to search for picsay pro and couldn't find it...only picsay
My first question is
1)Is picsay pro available in any of your market's(both 2.1 and 1.5 users)
as well as ringo pro
2)Does the insurance policy we have on our phones cover like lost or stolen phones. my eris is fine and perfectly okay but i wanted to say it's "stolen" or lost
and just pay the deductible instead of buying yet a brand new eris for 400-500 bucks(only to spend another 400 or 500 bucks when the nexus one/incredible comes out)
Idk...I like 2.1 and all but I haven't seen some or even most of the problems some are complaining about(YET) and the delay in pressing talk when calling/answering calls with that vibrate is kind of annoying
and to be honest, i actually forget i can pinch zoom menus
so i am thinking i want to go back to...dare i say, 1.5
last question...
3. Does my hair look better if i dyed it...lol nvm sorry i'll save that for right forums
anyway, I thank you for all for the future answers and any sarcasm I may get
Thanks,
a 17 year old Diva who has no sense of reality and seeks attention
*P.S.-Though this contains sarcasm, I was being serious about the first question*
no i never was going to wear it just for shopping and dinner with friends and such lmfao
also, better keyboard application?
is that app not available on sense phones?
i downloaded it from droid and tried to use it for my eris(on both erises i had) and it still displays the htc keyboard and i did everything i could think of
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You do realize that if you report your phone lost/stolen, and it's not really lost/stolen, that's insurance fraud right? Also, you might want to know that the insurance will replace your phone with a REFURBISHED SAME UNIT. You will not be able to pick what you want, and if your device is not available, THEY choose what you get.
no i never was going to wear it just for shopping and dinner with friends and such lmfao
also, better keyboard application?
is that app not available on sense phones?
i downloaded it from droid and tried to use it for my eris(on both erises i had) and it still displays the htc keyboard and i did everything i could think of
as long as it is downloaded and checked under locale and text then whenever you are in e-mail or sms app just long press on the text box area and then select input method >better keyboard. that is what i had to do for swype ... you might wanna check it out. it rocks
You do realize that if you report your phone lost/stolen, and it's not really lost/stolen, that's insurance fraud right? Also, you might want to know that the insurance will replace your phone with a REFURBISHED SAME UNIT. You will not be able to pick what you want, and if your device is not available, THEY choose what you get.
i kind of figured that. I know it's wrong but i mean how would they actually know if i really lost it or not.
the stolen i can see but the lost...how would they know
You do realize that if you report your phone lost/stolen, and it's not really lost/stolen, that's insurance fraud right? Also, you might want to know that the insurance will replace your phone with a REFURBISHED SAME UNIT. You will not be able to pick what you want, and if your device is not available, THEY choose what you get.
insurance fraud? really? i dont think so i mean the technical definition sure but it is not a felony in this case like it would be if you used your friends medical insurance. it is not actual "insurance fraud". Can we say Drama Queen?
and they will give you a refurb unless you specify you want a new one. its one of those things they will try to slip by you.
and the eris is definitely available. ----for now anyway
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insurance fraud? really? i dont think so i mean the technical definition sure but it is not a felony in this case like it would be if you used your friends medical insurance. it is not actual "insurance fraud". Can we say Drama Queen?
and they will give you a refurb unless you specify you want a new one. its one of those things they will try to slip by you.
and the eris is definitely available. ----for now anyway
No, she is right. It is in fact insurance fraud. How stiff the penalties are or how much trouble someone could get into, I have no idea, but it is fraud.
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insurance fraud? really? i dont think so i mean the technical definition sure but it is not a felony in this case like it would be if you used your friends medical insurance. it is not actual "insurance fraud". can we say drama queen? and they will give you a refurb unless you specify you want a new one. its one of those things they will try to slip by. and the eris is definitely available.
Definition: Insurance fraud is any act committed with the intent to fraudulently obtain payment from an insurer. I never said felony. I never said misdemeanor. I said insurance fraud. And it's part of the reason rates are higher than they need to be.
For the record, I'm all for a nice hearty debate. What I DON'T appreciate is being called a "drama queen". You don't know me, and for you to presume such is out of line.
No, she is right. It is in fact insurance fraud. How stiff the penalties are or how much trouble someone could get into, I have no idea, but it is fraud.
Come on, this is a phone not a car. It's not like you're setting your house on fire and claiming the insurance. If you lose the phone, whether or not you lost it on purpose, you lost it. They don't ask questions as to where or how like they do if your car is stolen. Can you imagine being prosecuted because you lost your phone? Felony, 10 - 20 in the big house due to an Eris 2.1 upgrade.
Well don't call her a drama queen(trust me , i know how it feels to be attacked or called out in a forum for no big reason)
But Eric(or anyone) what do i say....Hi, my name is Carmen and I lost my phone....
I like 2.1 but ehh idk...
i have these other 2 refurbished erises(if you get 3 refurbished devices in 90 days then you have the option of getting out of that whole phone and getting into a new phone of your choice) that i could use...BUT...I have to return two and i can't return this one
Not only did I trade for it on craigslist i upgraded the OS to 2.1 and that is non-existent...at least on verizon phones
lol
Crime punishments are usually related to the monetary value related to the item in question. In this case the full retail value of a new eris. Prob not a felony but def a misdemeanor.(depending on state laws)
Crime punishments are usually related to the monetary value related to the item in question. In this case the full retail value of a new eris. Prob not a felony but def a misdemeanor.(depending on state laws)
okay so what if i really do just lose my phone(although technically it wouldn't be lost since i know where i left it) but you get my point..
i really don't want verizon trying to take me to court over an outdated phone but i don't see how this would be a biggie...
I tried 2.1...ehhh 1.5 doesn't seem SO BAD now
i'll probably buy one off ebay...it's a couple of hundred but at least i don't have to pay 500+
Ha, I couldn't care less. Just playing the devil's advocate. Some peopel seemed to get real worked up over that. I hope they never break any laws, like speeding! omgz. Anywho, I say just wait it out. I don't think it'll be that long before it's released officially. This week I'm sure they'll be working at it hard. Since the "leak" has given them so many more testers and bug finders.
lol @ people arguing on an internet forum and calling others a drama queen.
As for just saying your phone was stolen, that kinda sucks for the rest of us. They don't just eat those costs on the phones they're losing. They pass that on to us, the customers. The ETFs went up because people were signing up for data plans, getting a $500 phone for cheap, then cancelling and then selling the phone for a profit. The carriers got ticked, and stiffed the rest of us with a $350 ETF bill. For the sake of what is right, don't dye your hair.
lol @ people arguing on an internet forum and calling others a drama queen.
As for just saying your phone was stolen, that kinda sucks for the rest of us. They don't just eat those costs on the phones they're losing. They pass that on to us, the customers. The ETFs went up because people were signing up for data plans, getting a $500 phone for cheap, then cancelling and then selling the phone for a profit. The carriers got ticked, and stiffed the rest of us with a $350 ETF bill. For the sake of what is right, don't dye your hair.
lol i am not going to dye my hair lmfao...
that was sasrcasm you obviously didn't read
the 'I'm back' thread that started this HUGE
POINTLESS argument
well i dont want to make any1 pay for my decision to go to 2.1
I am going to wait it out and pray that it will get better.
It's not that bad.
The irony of the situation is...with 1.5 my phone calls connected
as soon as i hit talk but when I hit end it took forever for it to end the call
now on 2.1 it takes forever for my phone call to connect when i hit talk but it ends quickly
Hurry and get your fraud on before you turn 18, Carmen! After your next birthday, they'll throw the book at you.
shhh!!! lol i am not going to do it.
Lol you guys got me scared to do it now haha.........
I'm actually using the pinch zoom now on the homescreens so i guess i'll just deal with it...
Although I did read in another thread someone said this rom would expire in a few weeks...excuse me if that was sarcasm or a joke....but i hope that wouldn't happen
I apologize if that was a dumb statement(i am not as tech savvy as Caddy, OTD or some of the others)
but is it possible that this rom is temporary?
I wish i could find that thread....
Here are some quotes from this thread:
2)yes. happened to me once. they will just give you another one.
call verizon or go to the store and say my phone was stolen?
kind of figured that. I know it's wrong but i mean how would they actually know if i really lost it or not.
the stolen i can see but the lost...how would they know
insurance fraud? really? i dont think so i mean the technical definition sure but it is not a felony in this case like it would be if you used your friends medical insurance. it is not actual "insurance fraud".
Come on, this is a phone not a car. It's not like you're setting your house on fire and claiming the insurance. If you lose the phone, whether or not you lost it on purpose, you lost it. They don't ask questions as to where or how like they do if your car is stolen. Can you imagine being prosecuted because you lost your phone?
Wow ... grow up people. It is insurance fraud - no doubt about that one. But more importantly - IT'S JUST WRONG. Remember how your parents used to teach you about the difference between RIGHT AND WRONG?
Though I don't condone the behavior of falsely reporting a phone lost or stolen, I also don't condone the behavior of bashing people. I'm pretty new to this forum, is that how people treat each other here?
1. yes, reporting your phone lost or stolen to get a new one is weaksauce and it is a reason we pay so much for them and insurance.
2. yes, you will probably get a refurb, it will be pretty much new though, shouldn't have moarks or dings on it.
3. common misconception about returning a unit 3 times in 60 days, that is not the rule, seriously, my wife took her storm back 4 times in 60 days with legitamate issues and she brought it up and they shot her down each time.
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Wow ... grow up people. It is insurance fraud - no doubt about that one. But more importantly - IT'S JUST WRONG. Remember how your parents used to teach you about the difference between RIGHT AND WRONG?
Let's split hairs a little, ok? Just for yucks. Let's say Verizon bricks your phone, aka Apple. Did you not, in fact, lose your phone? Let's say you brick your phone or can't upgrade. Isn't it lost? If you got mad at it because it didn't work and threw it on the ground, isn't it damaged? How is this wrong morally? And even if you wanted to be calm and collected, walked into a Verizon store and said your phone doesn't work. Wouldn't you just pay the insurance fees and get a new one? Point being, I don't think they care. I remember I dropped my phone into a toilet, (don't ask) and called the insurance. I told them I dropped it into a bucket of water. (yes, morally wrong because it was a toilet.. sorry mom and dad) But the best part was when the gal on the other end said to me, " Wow, I dropped 2 of my phones into a toilet." I cracked up and admitted to her that's what I had done. Had a new Pearl in 2 days.
Fraud penalties and severity are normally state related. Carmen...stop screwing over the rest of phone consumers by even entertaining this ridiculous idea.
Definition:When someone provides false information to an insurance company in order to gain something of value that he or she would not have received if the truth had been told‚ they’ve committed insurance fraud.
In Pennsylvania‚ this type of dishonest act is classified among the most serious of crimes – it’s considered a felony. Those convicted of the crime face prison time‚ fines‚ legal fees and more – not to mention a wide range of personal and professional consequences.
Definition:When someone provides false information to an insurance company in order to gain something of value that he or she would not have received if the truth had been told‚ they’ve committed insurance fraud.
See, that's the point. You are really not gaining something of greater value, simply a replacement. The insurance on my phone doesn't ask how you lost it or how it got damaged, they will just replace it. Now if I had insurance that if I lost my phone I would get $10K and claimed it lost, quite another story. I set my house on fire and claim I had a Picasso in there, throw the key away. Get into an accident and claim disability, Levenworth. (That is Penn right?)
Let's say Verizon bricks your phone, aka Apple. Did you not, in fact, lose your phone?
IF Verizon were the party responsible for the bricking of your phone then it would fall to their insurance policies they have over their property. Chances are A customer Service role would step in to remove this from your concern while they handle it internally. Ultiamtely Your insurance policy woudl be uninvolved.
Question 2:
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Let's say you brick your phone or can't upgrade. Isn't it lost?
IF you brick your phone by performing any type of activity not condoned in your insurance policy they will not be held liable. Therefor to lie about such would be misrepresenting what actually happened, ergo, committing fraud.
The following is an example of what will not be covered:
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i. Programming, Repair Work
Programming, cleaning, adjusting, repairing,
modifying, or performing any other work
upon Covered Property.
Question 3:
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Originally Posted by bjanow
If you got mad at it because it didn't work and threw it on the ground, isn't it damaged?
No this is considered intentional damage and will not be covered as described below.
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l. Intentional Loss or Damage
Damage to Covered Property which is the result of it
having been used in a manner inconsistent for which
it was designed or intended by the manufacturer. We
also do not cover damage that is intentional or the
result of abuse.
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How is this wrong morally?
Morally? Who cares. Legally, it is wrong because it violates the contract agreement you entered into when signing up for the Equipment coverage.
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"Remember how your parents used to teach you about the difference between RIGHT AND WRONG?"
I thought you might have been talking morals, sorry.
Cleaning is prohibited? Wow. Gotta love those lawyers earning their pay. "Having been used in a manner inconsistent for which it was designed" would include dropping it even accidentally. All legalese, they'll replace your phone if you drop it or get frustrated with it. When I signed up it was to replace the phone for any damage. When I dropped it in the toilet that was quite inconsistent with proper use. But also know you can't get more than a couple or replacements. So don't flush.
on the homescreen, your main (middle) home screen. if you touch the home button is should zoom out and show all 7 screen.
alternatively, from your any homescreen if you grab the top right and lower left with each finger and pinch them together you should get the same effect.
it definitely works on 2.1...
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Good Lord people! Is it fraud in the legal definition? Yes. Is it wrong and does it increase the prices for the rest of us? Yes. Should anyone be shot, maimed, tared & feathered, staked or otherwise grievously harmed for mentioning the idea on an internet forum? No.
I haven't seen this much hostility and righteous indignation since I was chased out of Europe in the late 1700s.
Good Lord people! Is it fraud in the legal definition? Yes. Is it wrong and does it increase the prices for the rest of us? Yes. Should anyone be shot, maimed, tared & feathered, staked or otherwise grievously harmed for mentioning the idea on an internet forum? No.
I haven't seen this much hostility and righteous indignation since I was chased out of Europe in the late 1700s.
Haha. But does it really increase the prices? How many people actually brick a phone and then "lose" it? The reason our insurance costs went up is because there is no regulation in the industry and they can do whatever the heck they please. They're a corporation, just ask the SCOTUS.
Haha. But does it really increase the prices? How many people actually brick a phone and then "lose" it? The reason our insurance costs went up is because there is no regulation in the industry and they can do whatever the heck they please. They're a corporation, just ask the SCOTUS.
One big factor for cost increases in most industries is loss. If people are losing products, customers, revenue, time etc. The cost of their product or service will increase to counteract that loss. Verizon put an outrageous ETF on their smartphones because of what happened with the Storm and that is just one quick example of cost increasing due to loss.
All I can say is if I were Verizon, saw this thread then saw your posh pompous little self waltz through the front door and try to claim a lost or stolen phone, there would be no length I would not go to to watch them cart her majesty's person to the roughest penal colony this side of Siberia. The fact you think you are owed or assume the right to act like you do is very telling about where this countrys' future lies, with bubble gum smacking knee jerk nitwits such as yourself running around, I have great pause and now worry even more about whether or not my two teenage daughters would lower themselves to entertain the idea of knowing a gem, such as yourself. You are a brat, and a skunk of the first order. Pathetic
Yes. You are sooo right! What we need is cranky old geezers such as yourself clogging up the nursing homes complaining so much about the generation that is paying for your monthly social security checks. BTW YOUR WELCOME!!
on a more serious note What the H-E-Double hockey sticks is your problem?????
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One big factor for cost increases in most industries is loss. If people are losing products, customers, revenue, time etc. The cost of their product or service will increase to counteract that loss. Verizon put an outrageous ETF on their smartphones because of what happened with the Storm and that is just one quick example of cost increasing due to loss.
The loss of what? Multi million dollar bonuses or loss due to the CEO's declining 401K value? That's the reason they increased the costs, they can. I'd love to look at Asurion's bottom line. But fraud... oops.. better not go there again.
Trust me even if a lot of people don't turn anything in, they will not lower the price of insurance. They are going to make as much money as possible. If I were you and you don't want to feel guilty throw your phone in a dumpster then walk away. That way your phone is actually gone.
Also what is the point in paying in insurance if you are never going to use it? I don't get insurance on my phone because "knock on wood" I have never had an incident with my phone and don't want to fork out the money each month. I feel like if you are paying a couple hundred dollars every two years or so then you might as well use it.
Also what is the point in paying in insurance if you are never going to use it? I don't get insurance on my phone because "knock on wood" I have never had an incident with my phone and don't want to fork out the money each month. I feel like if you are paying a couple hundred dollars every two years or so then you might as well use it.
Bad logic. I've been paying insurance on my car for years, what if after a few years my paint starts fading? I can key the crap out of it to get a new paint job? I mean I paid for the paintjob through insurance premiums over the years right?
I doesn't matter the size, fraud is fraud. Would you mind if I came to your house and stole something? Even if it was something small?
Bad logic. I've been paying insurance on my car for years, what if after a few years my paint starts fading? I can key the crap out of it to get a new paint job? I mean I paid for the paintjob through insurance premiums over the years right?
I doesn't matter the size, fraud is fraud. Would you mind if I came to your house and stole something? Even if it was something small?
I didn't say it was perfect logic, but if you do that with your car they raise your own insurance, you have to pay insurance on your car as well. It might not be right but why pay insurance on a phone and lets say mine looks like crap after dropping it several times, would I get a new one? I would say yes.
If the phone is gone then it is gone, simple as that. That is what she is paying insurance for, get it replaced. No one can get into trouble for that, she technically she doesn't have the phone anymore. If she said it was lost and then kept the phone, that would be different. It isn't fraud when they cant prove it.
After all that I would never do this, was just giving an example. I don't personally care what other people do, that is up to them. But I like to be the devil's advocate.
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Good Lord people! Is it fraud in the legal definition? Yes. Is it wrong and does it increase the prices for the rest of us? Yes. Should anyone be shot, maimed, tared & feathered, staked or otherwise grievously harmed for mentioning the idea on an internet forum? No.
I haven't seen this much hostility and righteous indignation since I was chased out of Europe in the late 1700s.
OTD, you are right on the fraud issue.
As far as being chased out from Europe: let's be realistic.
Remember Salem? Today there are more self-righteous narrowminded,
rednecks here than overseas.
Peter
I didn't say it was perfect logic, but if you do that with your car they raise your own insurance...
I assume that everybody is talking about the insurance plan from Assurion. In a way, they do provide restrictions if you file a claim; namely, you are only allowed two claims in any 12 month period. After that, they will not provide you insurance, so a third time when you actually need a replacement, you'll be on your own.
All I can say is if I were Verizon, saw this thread then saw your posh pompous little self waltz through the front door and try to claim a lost or stolen phone, there would be no length I would not go to to watch them cart her majesty's person to the roughest penal colony this side of Siberia. The fact you think you are owed or assume the right to act like you do is very telling about where this countrys' future lies, with bubble gum smacking knee jerk nitwits such as yourself running around, I have great pause and now worry even more about whether or not my two teenage daughters would lower themselves to entertain the idea of knowing a gem, such as yourself. You are a brat, and a skunk of the first order. Pathetic
lol nobody said that i was actually going to do it. I even said last night that was i was going to deal with it. I made the decision to go to 2.1 so i shouldn't do it. I realize it would be wrong.
Good Lord people! Is it fraud in the legal definition? Yes. Is it wrong and does it increase the prices for the rest of us? Yes. Should anyone be shot, maimed, tared & feathered, staked or otherwise grievously harmed for mentioning the idea on an internet forum? No.
I haven't seen this much hostility and righteous indignation since I was chased out of Europe in the late 1700s.
I really don't get it. I was entertaining the thought of getting the phone but it's ashame that i asked a question about it and i get bashed for it.
it's cool...it makes me laugh.
At some point another our parents did teach us right from wrong as children...
My mom and dad also taught me if i don't have anything kind to say about anybody at all then I should just keep my mouth closed...
LOL it's another double standard
but like it was said before in the last forum...
I asked the question...So I expect some of the responses I get.
I feel sorry for you're daughters knowing me to. I'm an actual pretty decent person compared to what the forums and ppl in it think
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